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Tuesday, May 27, 2014

The Morning News: UCSB Mourners Need Some Space, a Plan for Leaving Afghanistan, and a Reminder Not to Hold Your Breath While Driving

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Still Thinking About the Isla Vista Shooting? There's still plenty to read. First, a message from Isla Vista: "NEWS CREWS GO HOME." Feministing has a roundup of essential feminist writing on the shooting. And #YesAllWomen is still going strong because there's a lot to say.

The US Now Plans to Pull All American Combat Troops Out of Afghanistan by 2016: Obama will announce the plan this afternoon, the New York Times confirmed this morning. If Afghanistan will allow it—and thus far they have not signed a security agreement—almost 10,000 troops will remain there through 2014.

Rescue of Kidnapped Nigerian Girls Hits a Roadblock: The government has located the girls, but military chiefs and the president can't agree on whether to go in with force or negotiate the girls' release.

Team of Inspectors Investigating Chemical Weapons in Syria Was Attacked: The convoy of international inspectors, looking for evidence of the use of chlorine bombs, was attacked and members may have been briefly abducted—but everyone is now safe. The Syrian government blames rebel fighters.

White House Accidentally Releases Name of CIA Chief in Afghanistan: It was inadvertently included in a list of names sent out to more than 6,000 journalists. Whoops.

"Argument Between Two Friends" Leaves One Dead in White Center: The shooting, somehow related to what King County Sheriff's officers will identify only as a piece of personal property, happened yesterday afternoon.

We Take Our Ferry System Seriously Around Here: Man tasered at Colman Dock after trying to sneak on to a ferry without paying.

Sasquatch! The drunk neon-covered young people festival happened this weekend. The intrepid Stranger team has been sending back dispatches, and it sounds like some concerts-of-a-lifetime went down over there. You can find it all right here.

Two Devastating U-Haul Thefts in the Seattle Area This Weekend: Dave Segal reported on one of them here, in which a local musician and a fashion designer lost virtually everything they own on the eve of a cross-country move. Every piece of equipment, every scrap of fabric, every recording. KING 5 found another case of a stolen U-Haul in Bellevue.

Smalltown of Fircrest, Washington, Thinking About Booze: Fircrest has been a dry town since Prohibition. Now they're kinda rethinking that whole thing.

Man Holds Breath While Driving Through Tunnel, Faints, Crashes: Four people were injured in the three-car crash in an Oregon highway tunnel this weekend.


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seatackled 1
The man was driving through a 700 foot tunnel. Unless there was heavy traffic it should have taken 10 seconds.
Posted by seatackled on May 27, 2014 at 9:04 AM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 2
Why the fuck would someone hold their breath while driving?
Posted by Urgutha Forka on May 27, 2014 at 9:22 AM · Report this
rob! 3
There was a giant mudslide on the west slope of the Rockies, between the town of Collbran, CO and Vega Reservoir.

Says the Denver Post:
The slide was more than 3 miles long, a half-mile wide and as deep as 250 feet. It dwarfs the mudslide that buried a subdivision and killed 41 people in Oso, Wash., in March.
At present three people are missing, all men who went to check on an irrigation ditch blocked by a small preceding slide who were then apparently caught in the larger one. Photos here:…
Posted by rob! on May 27, 2014 at 9:35 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 4
In February, forty one Republican senators voted against a bill, supported across the board by veterans groups, that would have boosted spending to reduce wait times at veterans hospitals. If this isn't a disgrace enough to run them from office, I don't know what is.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on May 27, 2014 at 9:56 AM · Report this
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 5
“White House Accidentally Releases Name of CIA Chief in Afghanistan”

I’m sure that the media will follow this with all of the furor it prosecuted the Valerie Plame leak… Ha. Right!
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on May 27, 2014 at 10:02 AM · Report this
@5, you mean that time the WH purposefully leaked the name of an agent in an attempt to attack her husband, a reporter who was uncovering their lies about WMDs?

Sounds a bit like false equivalency.
Posted by GermanSausage on May 27, 2014 at 10:08 AM · Report this
espato 7
Thanks 6
Posted by espato on May 27, 2014 at 10:12 AM · Report this
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 8
Malfeasance that resulted in a minor disclosure (she was hardly Chief of CIA operations in a highly sensitive region) vs. Incompetence that results in a major disclosure…

Frankly, I find incompetence every bit, if not more, disturbing.

Either way… They are both very damning stories.
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on May 27, 2014 at 10:22 AM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 9
You find some clerk's incompetence more disturbing than the intentional actions of decision makers in the pursuit of manufacturing a case for an illegal war?

You have no morals.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings on May 27, 2014 at 10:29 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 10
@8: Wait, so you would claim that a person who accidently hits the gas instead of the brake and kills someone is worse than someone who got in their car and intentionally went out to run someone down?

Or does this incredibly stupid line of thought only exist when you can score fake political points on a blog?
Posted by Theodore Gorath on May 27, 2014 at 10:32 AM · Report this
"Essential feminist writing"

Heh. Heh heh. Heh heh heh. Heh heh heh heh. Heh heh heh. Heh heh. Heh.
Posted by heh heh on May 27, 2014 at 10:39 AM · Report this
@8, that's a bit like accidentally revealing the rough date of D-day compared to personally giving Hitler the plans to D-day.

One's a fuck up. The other's treason.
Posted by GermanSausage on May 27, 2014 at 10:40 AM · Report this
No Place To Hide

by Glenn Greenwald

The full force and impact of this book on NSA's full spectrum domestic and international surveillance cannot be stressed enough; what we have heard and read in various international news articles is gathered here at one source, to be read to fully grasp the enormity of it all!

When those of us who served in the military, and worked for various organizations for the NSA (Naval Security Group, or NSG, Army Security Agency, or the ASA, USAF Security Service), the agency was strictly forbidden from domestic surveillance --- for that way lies ultimate power!

During Reagan's administration, in 1988, the NSA was transferred from civilian status to the domain of the Department of Defense, under control of the Pentagon.

Such action initiated what Greenwald so aptly describes as its present incarnation of Orwellian dimensions.

Although Glenn cogently describes its financial intelligence spying, only those who have been diligently following the financial investigative journalism of Matt Taibbi, Pam Martens and Nomi Prins will fully appreciate the significance of this.

When NSA's full spectrum intelligence is disseminated to its clients --- the Department of the Treasury, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Justice, etc. --- it is being likewise dispersed to Wall Street (DOT = Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase, DOA = Big Agra, or ADM, Cargill, Monsanto, etc., and DOJ = Wall Street's white-shoe firms, etc.).

This is a slight peek behind the curtain of the unholy financial-intelligence-complex which sits atop the pyramid of control.

Remember that Edward Snowden was a contractor with Booz Allen Hamilton, and has proven to the world his unimaginable and extraordinary access to the most senstive of NSA programs --- and who owns Booz Allen?

One of the top private equity/leveraged buyout firms (private banks), the Carlyle Group, with the likes of George H.W. Bush as a past advisor, and with the original seed money coming from the Mellon family.

Thusly we must ask just how much access to global financial intelligence do these private banks routinely enjoy, along with their publicly owned cousins, JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs?

When NSA intercepts shipments of routers, switches and other network devices to insert backdoor software and hardware to reroute data communications back to them --- it isn't about national security --- just financial intelligence --- had anyone of those traitors ever been concerned with real national security they would have sounded the alarm about the offshoring of jobs, technology and investment to China and elsewhere!

When the Boeing subsidiary, Narus (or other similar firms), aids totalitarian countries to capture pro-democracy activists for torture and death, so too does the NSA help in preemptive arrests of American activists and community organizers, as well as members of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

As one National Intelligence Officer is quoted in the book as stating, "...this is about vast profit..."

[Please see the bottom of p. 224 and top of p. 225 to understand why no one should give a rat's ass at the recent firing of New York Times executive editor, Jill Abramson.]

This is a fantastic book not to be missed!

Additional sources and pertinent sites:…………

Posted by sgt_doom on May 27, 2014 at 10:45 AM · Report this
raindrop 14
@6: It was Richard Armitage, a former #2 head at the State Department who leaked Valerie to Bob Novak. Not the Bush White House.

@3: Rob! Note how that slide was so massive that it filled up a valley and continued over its that ridge.
Posted by raindrop on May 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 15

Now that we have Obamacare, why do we need Veteran's Hospitals? (I asked the same question about school nurses.)

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on May 27, 2014 at 11:05 AM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 16

From the Department of the Petty and Picayune, I wanted to follow up the commenter who denied my observation that Seattle is a laptop town, and not a tablet town.

I went to the Angels-M's game yesterday and started off the day with a walk from Sounder to Zeitgeist Coffee. While inside (can someone tell me why they all sit inside even when it's sunny) awaiting my latte, I did an impromptu survey of what devices people were using.

The east side of the room seemed to be the computing-ish area. Of the twenty or so people there working away at the great american homework assignment, the number using tablets or Kindles was exactly none. All laptops.

The west side of the room was the conversation area, people in groups speaking to each other. But of course there were devices present...all smart phones, no tablets.

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on May 27, 2014 at 11:10 AM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 17
@15- Gods you're an idiot.

School nurses provide on-site care so kids don't need to leave school for minor medical issues and little public health tasks. They're there to keep the education going.

Obamacare isn't a robust socialized medicine system, so veterans still get cheaper treatment than non-veterans. Iif we'd actually gotten socialized medicine instead of mandatory healthcare we could get rid of the VA. We'd still have school nurses.

Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings on May 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 18

What specialized treatment would a vet need, that say a victim of the Boston Marathon bombing wouldn't? And certainly whatever insurance and health network that provides for the Marathon victims could provide for vets as well.

As far as a school nurse, they would provide nothing more than a parent would -- band-aids and eye drops. Any thing more serious and you'd call in the pros. Pre-Obamacare, the nurse might have been there to help with the costs for poor parents, but post-Obamacare, everyone has insurance especially the poor who get subsidized plans.

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on May 27, 2014 at 11:26 AM · Report this
Fred Casely 19
Fox News: Latent Homosexuality to blame for Isla Vista?
Posted by Fred Casely on May 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 20
@18- You obviously have no idea how Obamacare works or the benefits that veterans are entitled to (they're much better than mandatory insurance).

You obviously have no idea what school nurses do. None. Did you have a brain injury that erased your memories of school?
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings on May 27, 2014 at 11:33 AM · Report this
@20 - Thank you.
Posted by Calpete on May 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM · Report this
TCLballardwallymont 22

The link to the White Center shooting is wrong. You've got a link to an article on Fircrest looking to end 'dry' status there.
Posted by TCLballardwallymont on May 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM · Report this
@1- Yes, I find it really difficult to believe a healthy young person can't hold his (or her) breath for ten seconds. Those of us with asthma or other lung diseases routinely do that and more when using our inhalers and taking tests, and we don't pass out. There has to be something else involved than just that he was holding his breath for about 750 feet.
Posted by Calpete on May 27, 2014 at 11:40 AM · Report this
seatackled 24
There's been speculation that he was in the middle of a bong hit or something, but if that were the case he'd have been arrested for DUI.

Also, good point about asthma. And if he has a respiratory issue so severe that passing out is a risk, then why would he hold his breath?

Maybe there was a serious passenger fart in the vehicle?
Posted by seatackled on May 27, 2014 at 11:56 AM · Report this
rob! 25
@14, and re: 3, I've been able to pinpoint the Colorado landslide location through photos and maps—…

The headscarp is at bottom center (down and to the right from Sugarloaf Peak), with the slide flowing northward toward the valley containing "60½ Road." Part of Vega Reservoir is at the upper right; the town of Collbran, CO is out-of-frame to the upper left. Partway down, @14, the slide struck an angled canyon wall (itself the runout of a much older slide). Some of it sloshed over, but most was redirected on down the canyon.

Photo #9 in the Denver Post photo gallery (linked @3) shows the full length of the slide from the side, looking east toward the crest of the Rockies on the horizon with Vega Reservoir in the middle distance on the left. Sugarloaf Peak blocks the view of part of the slide; the slosh-over is visible just to the left.

A couple of interesting things: Just as with Oso, when you look for it the evidence of an earlier slide (probably well before living memory) is obvious in the form of a slumped terrace just below the headscarp area. And incidentally, this area is part of the Piceance Basin, where fracking for gas extraction has been going on for decades—if you switch the map from topographic to satellite view and zoom/pan, you'll see evidence of gas wells, some right near the bottom of the slide (I say "incidentally" because the proximate cause is likely heavy rains in the preceding days, though as with Oso, past logging, land disturbance, and other factors probably contributed).
Posted by rob! on May 27, 2014 at 12:12 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 26


Tell me how a VA benefits package differs from a Gold Obamacare program.

Tell me what service a VA hospital would offer, that the complex of hospitals on First Hill would not.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on May 27, 2014 at 12:13 PM · Report this
TCLballardwallymont 27
@26 Secret waiting lists?
Posted by TCLballardwallymont on May 27, 2014 at 12:30 PM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 28
@26 I'll tell you, since I use it. It's called veteran's hospital. It can't be used to rob people like your type wants.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on May 27, 2014 at 12:33 PM · Report this
Rotten666 29
Losing a child is devastating. Losing a truck with all of your shit in it is a pain in the ass.
Posted by Rotten666 on May 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 30
@26- A gold Obamacare package costs a bunch of money. A VA benefits package costs years of your life.

You really don't understand what Obamacare is. So go do some fucking reading on wikipedia or something. Just shut up until you've gotten a bit of a handle on reality.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings on May 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM · Report this
seatackled 31

But thankfully, there's a thriving music scene of great local bands.
Posted by seatackled on May 27, 2014 at 2:12 PM · Report this
mikethehammer 32
The reports I heard suggested that people hold their breath in tunnels as part of some dumb-ass superstition. And then maybe younger folks do so as part of a similarly dumb-assed dare.
Posted by mikethehammer on May 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 33


So if I gave you a Gold Obamacare package, fully subsidized, no cost to you, for your service, instead of a "VA plan" -- would you complain?
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on May 27, 2014 at 3:49 PM · Report this
@18 In a country where your description of school nurses was accurate, we'd still need school nurses because of the ongoing "War on Drugs" and zero tolerance policies.


Posted by Also, To Mitigate Liability When Something Goes Wrong, Etc. on May 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM · Report this
@33 Medical Insurance is not the same thing as Medical Care.

There is certainly a bunch of overlap, and not having solid insurance both limits care and ruins one financially, but we owe our vets care, not anything less.

Posted by Tie A Yellow Ribbon on May 27, 2014 at 3:55 PM · Report this
rob! 36
(Re: 25, if anybody's interested, the numbering of the photos is changing, so the one I describe is no longer #9. Weirdly, they're adding newer photos to the beginning of the gallery, so it bumps all the subsequent ones. If that continues, the total number of photos at the time you open the gallery, minus 20, should give you the right number [32-20=12 at the moment] for the sideways view of the slide. Or just start at 9 and click to the right until the image matches my description.)
Posted by rob! on May 27, 2014 at 3:57 PM · Report this
Thanks for the link to feministing. Not seeing how this latest shooting has anything to do with white male privilege. Most the victims were men, his 150page rant is more against men than women. Why the media acting like this is an attack by the white elite targeting women only and focusing only on that? Isn't this guy half asian as well? #culturalmarxism #criticaltheory #thefrankfurtschool
Posted by mitochondrial haplogroups on May 27, 2014 at 5:13 PM · Report this
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 38
Let’s remember that what occurred this past week was far worse than anything that happened to Plame. Plame was, after all, serving in an office in Virginia and, while classified, was no secret. By contrast, the CIA station chief whose name was released is in peril every day in Kabul. He is serving on the front lines of a shooting war and the release of his name in this indiscriminate manner may well have compromised his effectiveness if not his safety.
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on May 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM · Report this
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 39
@10: Actually: I would claim that a person who, having no idea how to drive a car, pulls out into traffic and accidentally mows down a dozen children waiting for a school bus is worse than someone who got in their car and intentionally swerved to hit a rat in the road.
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on May 28, 2014 at 4:38 PM · Report this

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