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Thursday, May 15, 2014

Some People On Twitter Are Slamming "Greedy" Fast Food Strikers

Posted by on Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Thank God Matt Binder is also on Twitter. Because Matt will post your asshole tweet mocking fast food workers...

...and then dig through years of your asshole tweets to prove that you're not just an asshole, you asshole, but a hypocritical, log-stupid asshole:

To see more assholes like this one.... for the dumb assholes they are, head over to Matt's Twitter feed.


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We think 15 for fry cook is too much.
Posted by Thom and Bri Bri on May 15, 2014 at 2:27 PM · Report this
rob! 3
Whatever its strengths, Twitter is not the record of societal discourse and/or consensus. You (Dan) spend a fair amount of time on Twitter fights, and I wonder whether you feel these have lasting influence, or they're just satisfying at a visceral level. Have you seen minds changed in many/any instances?
Posted by rob! on May 15, 2014 at 2:29 PM · Report this
This would be hilarious if it wasn't such a low blow. I guess it's true, people who were bullied can totally become bullies themselves.
Posted by Enatai on May 15, 2014 at 2:29 PM · Report this
Burger Time in Fargo, ND was advertising hiring starting at $10/hr so I bought an hour for someone. ND's current minimum wage is $7.50.
Posted by Drew2u on May 15, 2014 at 2:32 PM · Report this
saxfanatic 6
If they were to be shown the their own words - and maybe they have been - they still wouldn't get it. Human nature can be sooo depressing.
Posted by saxfanatic on May 15, 2014 at 2:33 PM · Report this
@3 I don't know if they change any minds but I think Dan's Twitter fights are kind of fun to watch.
Posted by Ken Mehlman on May 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM · Report this
rob! 8
@7, no doubt, and with all his travel he certainly has the downtime to indulge, so I don't mean to sound judgy about that.
Posted by rob! on May 15, 2014 at 2:46 PM · Report this
fletc3her 9
Demanding a living wage is greedy, but extracting billions in tax breaks so your executives can enjoy greater bonuses is good business.
Posted by fletc3her on May 15, 2014 at 3:00 PM · Report this
JonnoN 10
@2 why don't you tell us exactly what you do and how much you make, and we'll all judge whether you are worth it.

Posted by JonnoN on May 15, 2014 at 3:08 PM · Report this
Kinison 12
Have any of you actually worked in fast food? Companies like McDonalds make it insanely easy to work the grill or register. Everything is automated, easy to operate. The hardest part of their job is remembering the actual order.

I can see needing $15 an hour to work tech support, box office attendant or a clerk at home depot, but a burger or fry cook? Sorry, that job is way too simple to justify $15 an hour.
Posted by Kinison on May 15, 2014 at 3:16 PM · Report this
“It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level--I mean the wages of decent living.” -FDR 1933
Posted by BeelzeBallard on May 15, 2014 at 3:20 PM · Report this
Banna 14
I don't know how to read the twitters. They don't seem to be grouped in any sort of order or easily followed timeline or conversation style. Just a bunch of random sentences.

I'm old.
Posted by Banna on May 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM · Report this
Buttercup 15
What @14 said. Either tell / recap the story or don't, plz.
Posted by Buttercup on May 15, 2014 at 3:32 PM · Report this
Reverse Polarity 16
Kinison @12, it doesn't matter how easy or hard you perceive the job to be. Nobody working full time should live in poverty. That is the entire point of a minimum wage.

And, yes, I have worked in fast food. It may not be physically or mentally demanding, but it's still a shitty job that I wouldn't ever want to do again.
Posted by Reverse Polarity on May 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM · Report this

Exactly. How exactly does that work?
Posted by Patricia Kayden on May 15, 2014 at 3:39 PM · Report this

How much you earn isn't based on how easy your job is. I'm sure some of those CEOs do little to earn their millions.
Posted by Patricia Kayden on May 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM · Report this
JF 19
Being against $15/hr min wage does not make you an asshole. Calling people "asshole" make disagree with you makes you an "asshole". Congrats big Dan!
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 3:49 PM · Report this
JF 20
*Bad typo there

Calling people "asshole" for disagreeing with your opinion makes you an asshole.
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 3:50 PM · Report this
$15 may (or may not) be a little high for places with a low cost of living but it seems like a perfectly reasonable opening bid to negotiate from and possibly end up with something like the $10.10 the president proposed.
Posted by chi_type on May 15, 2014 at 3:53 PM · Report this
JF 22
@16 Why in the world should working 40 hours a week prevent you from living in poverty? Nobody has ever been able explain this simply without going into social justice platitudes.
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM · Report this
Alanmt 23
@22: Are you a moron or a sociopath, asshole?
Posted by Alanmt on May 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM · Report this
JF 24
@22 I see Cunty McCunterson has joined the convo. Anyone else have something of substance to add?
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 4:16 PM · Report this
JF 25
@23 Shit it's been a bad day for me.
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM · Report this
@20, true, but these people are being called assholes not for a simple disagreement, but for being certifiable douchebags.

If you said The Godfather was a poorly made film, I'd disagree with you, but I wouldn't think you're an asshole.

If you said that there's nothing wrong with working a 40 hour week and still getting shafted, then you'd be an asshole.

Learn the difference, douchebag.
Posted by GermanSausage on May 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM · Report this
JF 27
@26 Yeah, but why? Again, no platitudes, no emotions.
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 28

The guy cited in this post is retweeting people who are saying that fast food workers don't deserve $15/hour, typically in really shitty language, such as calling low-wage workers "whiners". The guy then has been going back into those people's Twitter feeds and retweets stuff they've said about being broke, needing jobs, needing second or third jobs, and complaining that people who have second or third jobs are making it impossible for someone to find just one job. Once you get used to the Twitter format, it's pretty funny/enlightening when people do this sort of thing.
Posted by keshmeshi on May 15, 2014 at 4:42 PM · Report this
@27, your lack of basic moral decency.
Posted by GermanSausage on May 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM · Report this

Let's put it this way: If you pay people a Living Wage, then you DON'T have to supplement their cost of living via other means, such as Food Stamps, public assistance, rent vouchers, paying higher health care costs in order to cover all those expensive ER visits that poor people can't afford to pay, etc., etc. Doesn't it make more sense to simply pay them upfront for the work they already do, so that they can carry their own load, not to mention contribute more towards the common good (in the form of taxes), rather than pay them piss-all on the front end and have to absorb all the additional back-end contributions we end up making on their behalf (usually manifested in the form of higher taxes)?
Posted by COMTE on May 15, 2014 at 4:47 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 31

First, poverty and particularly income equality are bad for society. That's not eve a controversial statement. Countries that have less poverty have lower crime rates, especially violent crime; lower mental illness rates; lower rates of general health problems; and higher reported happiness within the population.

Second, the new economy, largely due to the "global economy", has been leaving more and more people in permanent low wage work, even though increasing numbers of them are 30-somethings with children and college degrees. That's also not a controversial statement; that's a statement of fact. Without considerable investment in the populace or the economy (and both the government and private business have been doing fuck-all on that front), this isn't going to change, despite any platitudes about Americans getting better educated and going back to school. Not everyone can be a software engineer, and there aren't enough of those jobs to go around anyway.

So the question you need to consider is whether consigning people who work full time to permanent poverty is a good thing for our society. I argue that it's not.
Posted by keshmeshi on May 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM · Report this
Dear JF, I'm finding your position on this post very confusing. Granted you have had a hard day.. No platitudes, no emotions.
Think you may have stumbled onto the wrong site;
Robots not here. Repeat. Robots not here.
Didn't think Dan was necessarily calling twitter-gentleman an asshole, only because he was not supporting $15 an hour minimum wage for workers/ maybe also, it was his rude and offensive words (again; emotion involved on this site; ), telling same workers to get an education/ go and fry something( no, think these are the words from some movie, but, same drift).
And $15 an hour minimum, for adult wage? Of course that is reasonable.. And of course, a 40 hour a week worker should expect to actually be able to live on the wage they earn.
For the greatest country on Earth, you guys sure have shit wages/ but some of your states have legalized gay marriage/ but you'all can carry guns?/ and Bob Dylan et al come from there..
A mighty confusing story. Think I'll stay in Australia( just have to get rid of this fascist govt)..
Posted by LavaGirl on May 15, 2014 at 4:53 PM · Report this
JF 33
@30 Now that's a fair point, but I'm a big supporter of social welfare and would rather see that burden be spread among the group then have it placed on a business owner. I'd support a new tax (income, property both) in order to fund this as well.
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 4:54 PM · Report this
JF 34
@31 - Very good points, top to bottom.
Posted by JF on May 15, 2014 at 4:55 PM · Report this
I don't see most of these as inconsistent. They're broke and need jobs, and they lash out at people who have jobs but want more money. As for the greedy accusations, that's Stockholm Syndrome. Does not seem that heroic to pick on them.
Posted by AllisonM on May 15, 2014 at 5:00 PM · Report this
If you want to think about this topic without emotions and platitudes, I believe that you will find that emotions and platitudes are costing this society a lot of money while also placing a ton of people in poverty. First of all, I am ethnically Norwegian, so Im very into a social safety net. But that isn't what we have here. The US has a huge class of people who are basically camping in the net because the companies they work for don't pay them enough, and they don't have a direct pipeline to other sectors that need workers. If we got over the platitudes, like "they dont deserve it", and "thats not a job for grown-ups", the workers would be better off, and sociey would be better off. Arrogance, judgement and indifference have a moral cost, but they also have a very substantial monetary cost.
Posted by JonCracolici on May 15, 2014 at 5:33 PM · Report this
Alanmt 41
@25 Hope today is going better. :)
Posted by Alanmt on May 16, 2014 at 9:43 AM · Report this
Ophian 42
@JF, one can even ignore the welfare of individuals/society or the social justice aspect, and come up with a pro-minimum-wage-raise stance.

Any profitable business that pays wages so low that their full-time employees must seek public assistance to survive are de facto tax-payer subsidized. We the tax payers are making up the short-fall in McDonald's payrole.

Why are we, the tax payers, doing that? Public money is basically being used to guarantee private profits while working citizens are getting the shaft. That is not democratic, capitalist, pragmatic or just.
Posted by Ophian on May 16, 2014 at 3:03 PM · Report this
@ 14 - His tumblr is a lot easier to follow:

@ 21 - Harlingen, Texas is the cheapest city in the United States. A living wage for one adult and one child in Harlingen, Texas is $17.04 per hour. For two adults and one child, it's $15.98.…

@ 30 - Why should my tax dollars be used to facilitate profitable businesses paying their employees poverty wages? Surely our government could find a better use for that money than subsidising the profits of their (already obscenely wealthy) owners and CEOs. What you are advocating amounts to "social welfare" for the rich. How can you possibly justify that?
Posted by MiscKitty on May 16, 2014 at 3:36 PM · Report this
Y.F. Redux 44
They're not asking for $15/hr for making the food. They're asking for $7.25 to make the food and another $7.75 to put up with the asshole idiots buying the food.
Posted by Y.F. Redux on May 17, 2014 at 6:16 PM · Report this

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