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Friday, April 25, 2014

Jamie Kilstein Tomorrow at the Highline

Posted by on Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 3:05 PM

He's hilarious. If I was home, I'd be there. Oh—and guess who's opening for Jamie? Tix & Info here.

 

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Insufferable whining about his white privilege? George Carlin ate language policemen like this for lunch.
Posted by Such Nice Owners on April 25, 2014 at 3:22 PM · Report this
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BJJ Represent, Jamie!
Posted by tkc on April 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM · Report this
JF 3
Well there's 6 minutes I'm never getting back.
Posted by JF on April 25, 2014 at 4:49 PM · Report this
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So the whole show is just some SJW with daddy issues (big surprise there) checking their privilege for an hour? That isn't comedy.
Posted by William F. Fuckley on April 25, 2014 at 5:16 PM · Report this
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 5
This shit is gay....
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on April 25, 2014 at 6:24 PM · Report this
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I listened to his podcast for awhile, then dropped it after he called people who eat meat murderers.
Posted by ryanmm on April 25, 2014 at 7:14 PM · Report this
Eva Hopkins 7
I don't know anything else bout this guy's material, but I needed to hear this particular bit today. Long day of anti-feminist stuff all over online, just, lots of ugh. So the timing of this post was ideal.

Thank you, Dan..! :)
Posted by Eva Hopkins http://www.lunamusestudios.com on April 25, 2014 at 9:02 PM · Report this
Sandiai 8
@7, yeah I thought it was really nice too.
Thanks, Dan.
Posted by Sandiai on April 25, 2014 at 10:05 PM · Report this
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While I'm glad this cheered Ms Hopkins up, the vast range of what I've seen on line from all sides for some time now has made it increasingly clear that "feminism" and "feminist" now lodge in the Humpty Dumpty column, in that one can really only wait for the feminist or anti-feminist using either word to define it before formulating a rational response. Fortunately this usually doesn't take too long. The surprising bit is how so many people seem to use either word expecting the general public to have (or to be converted to in the extremely near future) a near-monolithic understanding of it (conveniently matching or compatible with that of the speaker).
Posted by vennominon on April 25, 2014 at 10:11 PM · Report this
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You know...here in Italy over 70% of murder victims are men, 95% of workplace deaths are men, 80% of death cause by occupational diseases are men, 80% of suicides are men,three milions of divorced fathers live under the poverty line.
Yeah, we are so privileged.
Posted by Fergus on April 26, 2014 at 12:20 PM · Report this
singing cynic 11
This dude is a huge hypocrite. It makes me crazy seeing this shit everywhere knowing what he's like (or, to be fair, used to be like) in real life.
Posted by singing cynic on April 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM · Report this
Fistique 12
If you self-identify as a feminist, it means you are in favor of what you think of as women in some way. Hope this helps.
Posted by Fistique on April 26, 2014 at 2:40 PM · Report this
Bonefish 13
10: Do you mean to tell me that Italian women are refusing to absorb half your occupational hazards until AFTER they become half your occupational workforce? What cunts! You poor, long-suffering, statistically ignorant little man :'-(
Posted by Bonefish http://5bmisc.blogspot.com/ on April 26, 2014 at 3:17 PM · Report this
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Actually Bonefish in Italy the Labour force participation rate is almost equal (59% men and 53% women).
Curiously even if the number of women workers is constantly increasing the percentage of women employed in hazardous or strenuous jobs it's still the same.
Posted by Fergus on April 26, 2014 at 7:42 PM · Report this
Eva Hopkins 15
Feminist = to *me* (though I realize YMMV) - a humanist who is sometimes involved in issues that focus on women, & the problems they face in the world. When women aren't being gang-raped on buses in India, aren't getting "honor" murdered in the Middle East (& there was also recently a horrible case of this in Canada), make the same amount of money for the same jobs here in the US, aren't threatened with rape for expressing any kind of opinion online - about almost anything-, and when I can walk down the street with the same bodily autonomy as many (NOT ALL) men & also not be followed for blocks by strangers, demanding that I smile, calling me a crazy c**t if I don't oblige them - yeah, maybe then I won't be a feminist.

The crude Caitlin Moran definition of a feminist is, do you have a vagina? &, do you want to be in charge of it - then congratulations, you're a feminist. But I find that limiting, to trans-, non- & fluid-gendered people, & to the many male feminists I know. It's a polarizing word & one I'm aware comes with a lotta preconceptions. I work at having conversations, as opposed to yelling at people. ;)

I've always tried to stick up for the underdog. Some days that's as a tree-hugger; some days as an LGBT activist or feminist. Race is another huge issue here.

That particular fellow in Dan's link, above, whoever he is or was IRL, just said a couple of things that hit my ears well, yesterday. An online friend is an editor of comics, gave her professional opinion about the marketability of a particular comic book cover & in the ensuing week has received rape threats & people trying to break into her bank account (!). FFS. So it was nice to hear a guy randomly saying it's OK to be a feminist. It does kinda bum me out if he's a dick to women when not onstage.

@10, my experiences are as an American woman, but I'd love to know where you're getting your statistics. Do you have a link? A quick Googling is turning up different figures than what you cite. But where you are is way less violent overall than the USA.

To give you an idea of *how different* the climate is, here's a couple of facts from Wikipedia:

"At 0.013 per 1,000 people, Italy has the 47th highest murder rate in the World. This makes the murder rate in Italy one of the lowest among Western countries: it is less than 1/3 that of the United States. Italy is also safer than Finland, France, Australia, Canada and the U.K. and roughly as safe as Spain, Germany and Holland.[9]

Italy is also a country with lower rates of rape than most other nations of the Western world. It has the 46th highest per-capita rate of rape in the world meaning that Italian citizens are 7 times safer from rape than American ones. Similarly, Italy has a lower per capita rate of rape than most of the advanced Western countries in the European Union.[9]"

www.statisticbrain.com/rape-statistics/

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Posted by Eva Hopkins http://www.lunamusestudios.com on April 26, 2014 at 10:35 PM · Report this
Eva Hopkins 16
@12 is the TL/DR version. ;) Thanks, Fistique.
Posted by Eva Hopkins http://www.lunamusestudios.com on April 26, 2014 at 10:37 PM · Report this
Bonefish 17
14: Wow, so with women and men combined, you have a 112% workforce. You guys must be crazy efficient!

Also, do you think you live in a secretly woman-dominated Italian culture that's cruelly forcing men into dangerous jobs against their will, or do you think that it's a product of these "dangerous" jobs being considered masculine and therefore no place for a woman (which wouldn't exactly be a product of feminist philosophy)?

And before you answer, don't forget to think long and hard about Occam's Razor.
Posted by Bonefish http://5bmisc.blogspot.com/ on April 27, 2014 at 9:42 AM · Report this
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M? Fist - I was not claiming to have no idea of what the word meant, but that claiming the phrase itself and alone tells one very little more than a declaration of, say, bisexuality. One can make only one or two very tiny assumptions about any practical implication of such a declaration. For instance, just before I heard this clip for the first time, I had just come from listening to a very polite feminist explanation in another video clip of why, despite the convenience of riding along on such issues as marriage equality, male same-sexuality would never be at all compatible with lesbian feminism, going into detail of how our phallocentricity made us actually worse than straight men. I was, in fact, trying to counter that with the writings of one of my favourite living feminists who either is almost perfect about same-sexer issues or erases us and gets snippy about it, a fascinating contradiction. This clip tries to make a simple reduction. "Do you think X? Do you do Y? Do you avoid doing Z? You're a feminist." Too simple for my experience. Others will differ; that's fine.

Ms Hopkins - I'm glad Dr Schwzyer didn't poison the whole well.
Posted by vennominon on April 27, 2014 at 3:26 PM · Report this
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@10: and I bet 99 percent of the rapes are committed by men against women! One of my best friends was raped in Italy while she had her junior year of college abroad. She was told that there wouldn't be a chance of the perpetrator being punished. The best she could do was sign a sworn statement against him that might be of use if he were prosecuted in the future. It took her years to get over the experience. And rape isn't the only violence that occurs against women. A great deal of domestic violence occurs against women in many countries. Most of it unreported.

Posted by Anonymous in the City on April 27, 2014 at 9:33 PM · Report this

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