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Thursday, April 10, 2014

Police Beat: The Chicken of the Dog

Posted by on Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM

We have two sides in this police report. One side is told by the owner of a chicken, and the other side is told by the owner of a dog. The owner of the chicken and the owner of the dog are neighbors, and the officer reporting is David Adams.

According to the owner of the chicken, his neighbor's dog continuously comes onto his property and chases his chicken. As a consequence, he is worried about his chicken's safety and may ­have "to resort to physical means of deterring or stopping the dog." Though the owner of the chicken admitted that he has threatened to shoot the dog if this problem persists, he said he would not use a firearm but a less lethal option to protect his animal.

According to the the owner of the dog, he has indeed been training his dog to stay on his property, but the dog is attracted to the chicken and so leaves the property now and then. On the night in question, however, the chicken owner was so upset about this business that he threatened to shoot the dog. This threat was loud, and upset the dog owner's daughter.

The dog owner also pointed out the chicken wanders onto his property from time and time. Officer Adams's recommendation? Erecting a fence or chaining the dog.

 

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Catalina Vel-DuRay 1
You have to be careful with chickens and dogs. My grandparent's neighbor's dog got into my grandparent's chicken house once and went crazy and killed all 40 of their chickens.

(The neighbor paid for the chickens and there was no hard feelings. And Grandma was able to salvage some of the chicken carcasses and can them.)

But if there's one thing that irks me, it's city chicken owners that let their chickens roam around. I once had to pay a call on a house where a rooster stalked me. If it had been just him and me, I would have shown that rooster how we did things on the farm, but I didn't know if any Nosy Parkers were watching, so I just shooed him away with my clipboard.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on April 10, 2014 at 2:46 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 2
isn't there a chicken leash law? get on it, Godden!
Posted by Max Solomon on April 10, 2014 at 2:47 PM · Report this
Fnarf 3
Take his dog away from him.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on April 10, 2014 at 2:50 PM · Report this
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If you let your chickens wander around, some animal is going to stalk them. The fact that his guys has a known animal to blame does not make it that animal's fault he won't protect chickens that would. E dead already if this wasn't a pretty nice dog. If my neighbor was crazy enough to shoot my dog I wouldn't let it out without supervision anymore.
Posted by Spike1382 on April 10, 2014 at 3:07 PM · Report this
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Seriously? Loose chicken, unleashed dog, no fence?
Posted by IslandGuy on April 10, 2014 at 3:09 PM · Report this
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If your animal wants to kill someone else's animal (and clearly that's what's up), it's the responsibility of the owner of the killing animal to restrain their pet. The chicken is harmless in this one. So what if the chicken wanders on the man's property from time to time? It's not chasing his dog and threatening to peck it's eyes out. He clearly is quite flexible about pets traveling into someone else's yard, why would it bother him?
Posted by gnot on April 10, 2014 at 3:10 PM · Report this
Phoebe in Wallingford 7
I loved how Charles bolded "the dog is attracted to the chicken" almost as if romance entered the picture.
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on April 10, 2014 at 3:10 PM · Report this
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He could also just let the dog out at night, when the chicken is in it's coop.
Posted by gnot on April 10, 2014 at 3:13 PM · Report this
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@4 What if it was a cat?
Posted by gnot on April 10, 2014 at 3:15 PM · Report this
Posted by merry on April 10, 2014 at 3:16 PM · Report this
Dougsf 11
Since I wasn't there I naturally have an opinion: dog owner is wrong. Furthermore, that this happened in Seattle and not the rural country means the dog owner is a bad dog owner.
Posted by Dougsf on April 10, 2014 at 3:17 PM · Report this
Fnarf 12
@11, kind of a problematic spot for a chicken, as well.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on April 10, 2014 at 3:20 PM · Report this
Dougsf 13
@9 A domestic cat will very rarely attack an adult chicken, and even more rarely win the altercation.
Posted by Dougsf on April 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM · Report this
Dougsf 14
@12 - Indeed.
Posted by Dougsf on April 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM · Report this
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@13 I meant if the chicken was a cat.

Also, this is a bird dog. He is training the animal to go grab birds. The dog is doing that.
Posted by gnot on April 10, 2014 at 3:23 PM · Report this
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maybe it's my rural midwest upbringing speaking here, but if a predator comes onto your land and threatens your animals (whether it's a coyote, dog, sally clarke or cupacabra), every person is within their right to use whatever means necessary to protect their animals. i don't know what Seattle's laws are for discharging firearms in the city limits, but i would not think less of chicken owner for shooting the dog if and only if the dog is on chicken owner's property. if the chicken goes on the dog owner's land and gets killed, tough. keep your damn chicken locked up.

if chicken owner is taking a leashed chicken for a walk and an unleashed dog threatens the chicken, i believe it is within chicken owner's right (maybe not legal right) to shoot the dog.

if chicken owner is walking with an unleashed chicken and an unleashed dog threatens the chicken, let nature take its course. best case scenario the chicken will soon hatch an adorable little of puppy-chick hybrids.
Posted by mrjoe on April 10, 2014 at 3:25 PM · Report this
Dougsf 17
@15 ahhhhhh...
Posted by Dougsf on April 10, 2014 at 3:27 PM · Report this
Amalink 18
that chicken could be goading the dog. maybe's it a Richard Simmons chicken and he's just trying to get that damn dog to exercise once in a while. haha
Posted by Amalink on April 10, 2014 at 4:32 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 19
So what's the word on what to do when a chicken gets loose? A couple of weeks ago, I saw a chicken on the wrong side of the fence on Queen Anne, but I wasn't sure if it made sense to call animal control. The main threat of a loose chicken is to the chicken itself, and, apparently, the owner's rose bushes. That chicken was tearing shit up.
Posted by keshmeshi on April 10, 2014 at 4:44 PM · Report this
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BBQ them both.....it adds to the mystery ... Why did the chicken cross the road????
Posted by pupuguru http://www.godsweed.org on April 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM · Report this
Gern Blanston 21
I'm guessing that a raccoon will settle this situation once and for all eventually.
Posted by Gern Blanston on April 10, 2014 at 5:02 PM · Report this
mikethehammer 22
Those animals belong on leashes, and within the nice, friendly confines of their local QFC.
Posted by mikethehammer on April 10, 2014 at 5:16 PM · Report this
Fnarf 23
@16, keyword is "rural". We're in a city. It's illegal to discharge a firearm in Seattle "in a place where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals or property will be jeopardized".
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on April 10, 2014 at 6:03 PM · Report this
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What? Twenty-three comments already, and nobody's made a Frank Blethen joke?
Posted by cheakamus on April 10, 2014 at 6:27 PM · Report this
25
Do "Stand Your Ground" laws apply to chickens?
Posted by SuperSteve on April 10, 2014 at 6:43 PM · Report this
26
Chickens can fly over fences.

Dogs can jump over fences.
Posted by sarah70 on April 10, 2014 at 7:40 PM · Report this
Posted by LMcGuff http://holyoutlaw.livejournal.com/ on April 10, 2014 at 8:03 PM · Report this
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Dog's got the right idea. Eat that fucker.
Posted by stilettov on April 10, 2014 at 8:37 PM · Report this
Sandiai 29
@27, why did I LIKE that so much?
Posted by Sandiai on April 11, 2014 at 12:10 AM · Report this
JonnoN 30
"the dog is attracted to the chicken and so leaves the property now and then."

Sounds like a typical dog owner to me. "I can't control that thing, it's got a mind of its own!"
Posted by JonnoN http://www.backnine.org/ on April 11, 2014 at 8:36 AM · Report this
NopeNope 31
I'm with @16. And it doesn't matter if it's a chicken or any other animal. Meanwhile, these fellas should probably just build a fence.
Posted by NopeNope on April 11, 2014 at 9:37 AM · Report this
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These people own too much land for their own good. Somebody needs to buy these two lots and put an apartment building on them.
Posted by centrista on April 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM · Report this
sissoucat 33
Chickens are locked chickens or are dead chickens in rural France.

Of course dogs chase chickens and kill them if they can, just like cats chase mice and kill them if they can ; doesn't mean they'll eat them, because they do it mostly for FUN. Just like we humans do. Have you never seen human kids chase pigeons ? Young kids would definitely kick them if they could catch them.

As for the training idea, farm dogs learn pretty fast not to chase their own chickens once they've killed their first, but chickens will never learn not to invade the neighbour's land. So in any case those chickens must be fenced, and then training the dog becomes optional. Besides, with no killed chicken to shame the dog into "never again", I don't see how the training could take hold.

As for chickens flying over the fence : any responsible chicken owner knows how to cut just one feather on the tip of one wing so that the bird can't fly.

So, nothing new under the sun.
Posted by sissoucat on April 12, 2014 at 5:00 AM · Report this

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