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Thursday, April 3, 2014

Gun-Crazy Country: Man Allegedly Shoots Neighbor While Spraying For Weeds

Posted by on Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:30 AM

According to the police, Randall Smith, was spraying herbicide at the edge of his driveway when he heard his neighbor, Michael Carreiro, coming down the road in a truck. Carreiro got out of his truck and apparently threatened to harm Smith, who allegedly put down his herbicide spray and pulled out a pistol from his holster. Twelve shots were fired. Carreiro fell to the ground.

The police also say that Smith allegedly fired two more times into Carreiro's back after he had already gone still, laying on the ground "with his arms tucked underneath him." This incident happened in Florida, a state that has a very famous stand-your-ground law.


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theophrastus 1
or as Florida calls it, "Tuesday"
Posted by theophrastus on April 3, 2014 at 9:10 AM · Report this
seatackled 2
Well, what was he wearing?
Posted by seatackled on April 3, 2014 at 9:12 AM · Report this
So two neighbors, Smith feels threatened by Carreiro, police of little help, Carreiro (a felon) calls Smith (with a CCP) too chicken to use a gun, Smith victim-lashes out...

In August, Smith filed for an injunction for protection against Carreiro, but it was denied the same day, Alachua County court records show. Carriero was previously arrested and found guilty in 2010 of aggravated stalking, four counts of criminal mischief and one count of fraud, court records show.

Smith also had a concealed carry permit for his weapon, the report noted.
Posted by ChefJoe on April 3, 2014 at 9:17 AM · Report this
blip 4
@3, So it's totally cool then.
Posted by blip on April 3, 2014 at 9:26 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 5
once you start firing, it's really hard to stop. especially if the victim dared you.
Posted by Max Solomon on April 3, 2014 at 9:31 AM · Report this
One less piece of bagger trash!
Posted by drwas on April 3, 2014 at 9:33 AM · Report this
I can't imagine something like this happening in Florida.
Posted by CPN on April 3, 2014 at 10:12 AM · Report this
AFinch 8
My ex was from Floriduh and swore she'd never return to that swamp...I'm starting to see her point.
Posted by AFinch on April 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM · Report this
The Stand Your Ground provisions in the self-defense law in Florida allows people to use deadly force when they feel threatened without any requirement that they retreat or choose a less than lethal response.

So what makes someone "feel threatened"? In this case it was a neighbor shouting in anger "I'm gonna kill you!" followed by some conversation. The threat came from an unarmed man standing 20 feet away.

I'm no great fan of people shouting "I'm going to kill you!", but I don't think it should be punishable by death - delivered immediately by the object of the threat acting as judge and executioner.

Mr. Smith could have responded in a thousand other ways that would not have ended in a person's death but the Florida law doesn't require that of him. The law gave him license to kill Mr. Carreiro, and he took that license.

There's no question that Mr. Smith is wrong, but there can also be no question that this law is wrong as well.
Posted by Charlie Mas on April 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM · Report this
Matt the Engineer 10
The herbicide would have eventually killed him eventually anyway. That's probably the reason for the shouting.
Posted by Matt the Engineer on April 3, 2014 at 11:22 AM · Report this
AFinch 11
@10 - meh, probably glyphosate, which is just fine for people and animals.

@9 - I'm just wondering how many of these extra-judicial killings will be tolerated before enough people in Florida agree the law is dangerous and unacceptable.

It seems to me the NRA/ALEC seat-warmers in the Florida legislature are determined to test whether or not "an armed society is a polite society". So far, it seems not.
Posted by AFinch on April 3, 2014 at 11:51 AM · Report this
meanie 12
So for all the people here who see a violent felon being killed by a proposed victim as a horrible slight against the humanity, whats the alternative again?

This isn't the dog bites man boilerplate the stranger usually slings here, and it certainly wasn't a trayvon.

The shooter here asked the police/court for help with this person, and they declined.
Posted by meanie on April 3, 2014 at 12:27 PM · Report this
blip 13
@12, Clearly pumping 14 bullets into him was the only way to resolve this verbal altercation.
Posted by blip on April 3, 2014 at 2:04 PM · Report this
IndicaDogwalk 14
I have a plan for Florida...well, the entire South, actually. And Texas: Saw off that part of the country and SET IT AFLOAT.

They want to secede from the USA? Have at it. Start your own little right-wing, xenophobic country and see how long you last. One rule, however - Once you go, you cannot return.

Anyone want to help me start this campaign?
Posted by IndicaDogwalk on April 3, 2014 at 3:35 PM · Report this
schmacky 15
So they'll have to release him, right? Why did they even arrest Smith in the first place? He abided by the law as written. The guy threatened him, and thus was fair game. I guess they have to make sure Smith was actually threatened, but then again the guy he shot dead (as was his right and duty as a citizen) was a felon anyway. So why bother?

I mean really, they should just amend the law so that any felon walking the streets can be gunned down on site. After all, felons by their very nature are threatening from a certain point of view. Let's save some time here and just slaughter them like hogs in the abattoir.
Posted by schmacky on April 3, 2014 at 3:57 PM · Report this

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