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Tuesday, February 25, 2014

The Viaduct Is Sinking

Posted by on Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:00 AM

Q13 reports:

The Alaskan Way Viaduct has settled up to 4/10 of an inch as a result of contractor work on the Highway 99 replacement tunnel, according to WSDOT.

The Seattle City Council took up the issue at a meeting Monday afternoon. Council members say if the viaduct continues to settle, it may need to be shut down, and it’s time to start thinking about a contingency plan.

Sounds like the viaduct has 6/10 of an inch more to go before people like Council Member Mike O'Brien start calling for it to be closed to traffic.

 

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Sargon Bighorn 1
No tunnel, no viaduct, no cut and cover, no rail line, no road, and we're not allowed to have horses either. It seems so unfair.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on February 25, 2014 at 6:40 AM · Report this
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god you people really need someone to run your city for you....
Posted by fucking inept morons on February 25, 2014 at 7:00 AM · Report this
Aaron 3
@2: It's a state highway right through the heart of the economic engine that likely fuels whatever livelihood you have, which is why you get to help pay for its replacement. Suck it.
Posted by Aaron on February 25, 2014 at 7:07 AM · Report this
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3

now now.

admitting you are a retarded fuckup is the first step to fixing yourself.

don't make us roll up a newspaper and come spank your ass...
Posted by Arrogant Clueless Stupid is the worse kind of stupid. on February 25, 2014 at 7:11 AM · Report this
The Establishment 5
Closed viaduct party? Closed viaduct party.
Posted by The Establishment on February 25, 2014 at 7:40 AM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 6
Just tear the stupid thing down already.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on February 25, 2014 at 7:42 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 7
pretty confident SDOT and WSDOT will make the viaduct limp to the finish line.

just keep your eyes fixed on the glorious future, when trucks filled with chinese crap will cruise unhindered north from the port all the way up 99 to the traffic lights in green lake! it's going to be worth it.
Posted by Max Solomon on February 25, 2014 at 7:42 AM · Report this
nikoniko 8
So when we close the viaduct, and the sky doesn't fall, can we stop digging the tunnel, please?
Posted by nikoniko on February 25, 2014 at 7:42 AM · Report this
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High capacity canoes!
Posted by Greg Barnes on February 25, 2014 at 7:48 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 10
@9 canoes are so 19th century. I want to ride a zip line down from Hamilton Viewpoint in West Seattle to the waterfront, where the moving walkway will whisk me away Jetsons style to Madison Park, so that I can take a sky gondola to Kirkland, to connect to the pneumatic tube network to whoosh me off to Redmond. Think multi modal or get out.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on February 25, 2014 at 7:58 AM · Report this
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Canoes are the last transportation mode that actually worked on this corridor. Forward to the past!
Posted by Greg Barnes on February 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM · Report this
TomJohnsonJr 12
O'Biren said WSDOT might "move the goalposts", so got them to commit to answer very specific questions in a written report for the next briefing. He does want details why they do not consider the spots they measured 4/10-inch settling to be a sign of an impending crisis. That'll be a briefing to watch for.
Posted by TomJohnsonJr on February 25, 2014 at 8:17 AM · Report this
sperifera 13
Who could have seen this coming?
Posted by sperifera on February 25, 2014 at 8:18 AM · Report this
MacCrocodile 14
@10 - If they'd actually fund transit, you could do that trip on one pneumatic tube and a zipline without all that senseless transferring in between.
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on February 25, 2014 at 8:20 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 15
@14 zip line Spider-Man style from West Seattle across the Duwamish, bay, downtown, east Seattle, Lake Washington, and all the way to say Bellevue? Forget commuting, I'd pay King County $50 for the fun of it.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on February 25, 2014 at 8:24 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 16
@12 WSDOT has repeatedly moved the goal posts on this already.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on February 25, 2014 at 8:25 AM · Report this
monkey 17
Traffic is down on the viaduct already. Smart people don't want to be on it when it collapses.
Posted by monkey on February 25, 2014 at 8:43 AM · Report this
MacCrocodile 18
@16 - The goalposts are moving on their own, very slowly.
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on February 25, 2014 at 8:46 AM · Report this
fletc3her 19
I hope they close and start dismantling the viaduct early.
Posted by fletc3her on February 25, 2014 at 8:59 AM · Report this
Dr_Awesome 20
Google already tried Sky-Bicycles. If anyone can build a viable pneumatic-tube transportation network, it's Google.

P.s. it had fucking better make that comical 'foop!' sound when it sucks you in, like on Futurama.
Posted by Dr_Awesome on February 25, 2014 at 9:15 AM · Report this
rob! 21
@18, they may inspire the art of the future:

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default…

(From here.)
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on February 25, 2014 at 9:15 AM · Report this
Baconcat 22
Gov Gregoire, 2008: "Watch me" tear down the viaduct in 2012
Posted by Baconcat on February 25, 2014 at 9:17 AM · Report this
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on February 25, 2014 at 9:29 AM · Report this
Cascadian 24
If they closed it and the world didn't end, then people might ask why we're trying (and failing) to dig a tunnel.
Posted by Cascadian on February 25, 2014 at 9:31 AM · Report this
DOUG. 25
"It's coming down in 2012. I'm taking it down -- the middle. That's the timeline. I'm not going to fudge on it. And if we don't have some alternative by then, boy are we going to have a mess on our hands because it's coming down."
-Christine Gregoire, January 2008

Can we rebrand this thing already? Gregoire Gulch or Christine's Calamity, maybe. It seems like she's gone and been forgotten. McGinn was right: She cannot be trusted.
Posted by DOUG. http://www.dougsvotersguide.com on February 25, 2014 at 9:59 AM · Report this
TomJohnsonJr 26
@18, exactly - no Nisqually earthquake, no 5 inches of sudden settling that day, no debate, no Cary Moon, no cut-and-cover, no legislative action, no McGinn wedge, no tunnel underway. Thanks earthquake!
Posted by TomJohnsonJr on February 25, 2014 at 10:00 AM · Report this
Eastpike 27
Another reason we need to switch to the metric system. How many feet is a tenth of an inch?
Posted by Eastpike on February 25, 2014 at 10:02 AM · Report this
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@27
1/120th
I'm pro metric system, but that wasn't even hard.
Posted by JAT on February 25, 2014 at 10:08 AM · Report this
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@7, the products from China that enter our ports mostly leave here by non-stop rail straight to Chicago. The Port knows better than to use our roads (mostly because of how bass-ackwards Seattle roads are).

I find this amusing. The AWV was built above current specs (the engineers overbuilt it at the time basically), is safer than any tunnel in a liquefaction zone, and has withstood more seismic activity than intended just fine. But, since in order to replace it we have to scare people into believing it is a death trap, WSDoT has to physically undermine it to justify their pet project.
Stay classy, WSDoT.
Posted by Talk to the engineers who built the AWV. on February 25, 2014 at 10:37 AM · Report this
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@6, @17, @19, @24 Even if it means 1.5--2 hour trip from West Seattle to Downtown????

We should assume the 4/10th isn't a big deal until they can tell us definitely.

This certainly makes the West Seattle to Ballard monorail look a whole lot more sensible and cheaper.
Posted by neo-realist on February 25, 2014 at 10:59 AM · Report this
MrBaker 31
The south end was demolished a couple years ago.
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/projects/viaduct…

Don't let gravity get you down.
Posted by MrBaker http://manywordsforrain.blogspot.com/ on February 25, 2014 at 11:21 AM · Report this
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@30 The tunnel was never going to improve the W. Seattle to downtown commute. It has no downtown exits.
Posted by Rocky Mountain Ben on February 25, 2014 at 11:24 AM · Report this
treacle 33
Oh good lord. This is turning into a right comedy of errors.
Posted by treacle on February 25, 2014 at 11:35 AM · Report this
Matt the Engineer 34
Next headline: Viaduct sinks down and lands on Bertha. State denies this will lead to overruns.
Posted by Matt the Engineer on February 25, 2014 at 11:58 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 35
@9 mine is ready
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 25, 2014 at 12:02 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 36
@34 for Most Insightful Post Hole of the Dig
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 25, 2014 at 12:16 PM · Report this
very bad homo 37
Next earthquake we have, that thing is coming down on its own.
Posted by very bad homo on February 25, 2014 at 12:25 PM · Report this
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four tenths sounds like a whole lot more than two fifths. Better call the fire department.
Posted by gawd on February 25, 2014 at 1:52 PM · Report this
Matt the Engineer 39
@38 I think they're using tenths because last week they reported it had sank one tenth.
Posted by Matt the Engineer on February 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM · Report this

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