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Wednesday, December 18, 2013

Mayor Bloomberg Says God Wants Him to Be Rich, Poor People to Starve

Posted by on Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Someone finally asked New York's outgoing mayor for his opinion on that New York Times story about the homeless girl named Dasani. His response?

Outgoing Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY) went on the defensive when asked whether he was moved by the New York Times’ powerful series on a homeless family struggling to survive in New York City. Bloomberg defended his homelessness policies and claimed that 11-year-old Dasani, the star of the piece, ended up in dire straits due to bad luck.

“This kid was dealt a bad hand. I don’t know quite why. That’s just the way God works. Sometimes some of us are lucky and some of us are not,” he told Politicker, calling her plight “a sad situation.”

One of the richest men in New York, who also "happens" to be the mayor of New York, saying that God wanted him to be rich. That's right up there with "let them eat cake." I refuse to believe that Bloomberg, who is a very smart man, actually just throws up his hands and says "it's what God wants" when he's faced with a serious question about economics. He's just hiding behind God to avoid the question, and to deflect his responsibility in the matter.

 

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Sargon Bighorn 1
Many religious people also say that the reason so many in other countries suffer so much is "God is testing them". It is a sick attitude. Bloomberg, is that the same way God works in allowing the Jews, gypsies, and Homo-folk to be gassed during WW2? They just got unlucky. Yeah unlucky victims of a genocide. Oh well.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on December 18, 2013 at 1:38 PM · Report this
ScrawnyKayaker 2
@1 Nice shot.
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker on December 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM · Report this
GhostDog 3
I translate this as either "I don't want to do a detailed analysis why it is ok for me to be super wealthy" or "I don't have a defense for why I am super wealthy"
Posted by GhostDog on December 18, 2013 at 1:56 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 4
Old as the hills. The concept of "Divine Right" came about when the leaders of the German barbarians wanted to legitimize their conquering. "God chose me to be King." Yeah, right.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on December 18, 2013 at 2:06 PM · Report this
Mittens Schrodinger 5
Well, it's at least a little better than "It's their own fault for not working hard enough", which is super-appalling and emblematic of the typical attribution bias of right-wingers: "I got mine through deserving hard work, they got theirs through luck, if I fall on bad times it's because of bad luck, they fell on bad times because they're lazy and/or deserve it."
Posted by Mittens Schrodinger on December 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 6
It's handy, you must admit. The aristocracy has been using it for thousands of years and we've been buying it. Then the pope says " I care" and everyone says "Ah, that's so nice, see-god cares!" Climate change can't happen fast enough for me.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on December 18, 2013 at 2:16 PM · Report this
HelpMeJebus 7
I think he should be applauded for at least recognizing that luck often is the biggest determinant of one's place in life. Too many of these assholes blame poor people for bootstrap-pulling deficiency.
Posted by HelpMeJebus on December 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM · Report this
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....to deflect his responsibility in the matter.

because it is high time Bloomberg admitid he fathered that poor waif and her six siblings.

shame shame
Posted by so full of shit on December 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 9
I bet he'll still say it when we drag him up to get his head cut off in the upcoming revolution!
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on December 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM · Report this
watchout5 10
Dear poor people, god hates you, there's nothing you can do, please don't spend my precious money. Love, rich people.
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on December 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 11
I'd really like an explanation for why the program that put Dasani's family in a home at a cost to taxpayers of $1,200/month was cut, leading them to a crappy shelter that costs taxpayers $3,000/month. If we can't have a conversation about the morality of leaving people poor and hopeless, could we at least have a conversation about the cost-effectiveness of cutting cheaper programs?
Posted by keshmeshi on December 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM · Report this
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Remember, God approves. The iniquity of the father shall be visited upon the children and children's children to the third and fourth generation.
Posted by Hanoumatoi on December 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM · Report this
biffp 13
What happened to the American Dream? This is a return to the robber barons of the twenties. There was a "Real Hunger Games" piece on the Daily Show last night with a Forbes columnist advocating for all government programs to be replaced by charity. In his view, poor people weren't destitute enough.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-de…
Posted by biffp on December 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM · Report this
fletc3her 14
God wants me to be rich has been used by oligarchs since time began. We can argue the tenets of common decency until we're blue in the face, but who can argue with God's will? It's like the tides... nobody can explain it.
Posted by fletc3her on December 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 15
Bloomberg is also working hard to deny honest, hard working Americans their right to keep and bear arms.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/20…

Usually the "journalist" at The Stranger parrot the rich NYC POS and his anti-freedom agenda.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon on December 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM · Report this
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I won't defend what he did say, but he definitely DIDN'T say "God wants me to be rich" or that God wants the child to be poor You've twisted what he said, and there's no need to do so; there's certainly plenty to criticize without distortion.
Posted by sarah70 on December 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM · Report this
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I may be wrong, but isn't Matthew 25 the only place in the Bible that actually tells you how to get into heaven and it pretty much says that one must help the least of us, the less fortunate?

Just askin'. I'm no biblical scholar.
Posted by CPN on December 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM · Report this
COMTE 18
No @16, what he said was that he believes God decides who's lucky (himself) and who's not (Desani, et al. Although you are correct in that he did not say verbatim, "God wants me to be rich", the implication in his statement is nevertheless quite unambiguous.

In fact, we can parse it into the following syllogism:

Bloomberg believes God chooses who is lucky and who is unlucky.

Bloomberg believes rich people are lucky and poor people are unlucky.

Therefore, Bloomberg believes rich people (such as himself) are chosen BY GOD to be the lucky ones, just as poor people (such as Desani) are chosen BY GOD to be the unlucky ones.
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on December 18, 2013 at 3:45 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 19
@11,

That's easy. Republicans don't care about cost saving or efficiency. They want the poor to feel shame, anger, fear, and hopelessness and they'll pay a premium to make it happen.

Republicans would gladly vote to spend thousands extra to have garbage dumped in the yards of poor people.

They do it because when people are miserable, cold, hungry, and feel worthless, they're less likely to vote. Republicans know they'll never win their votes, so they work to disenfranchise them in any way possible.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on December 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM · Report this
Dr_Awesome 20
@15 Yes, we can all sleep better tonight knowing that nobody has infringed on that poor girl's right to own a gat.

You fuckstick.
Posted by Dr_Awesome on December 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM · Report this
biffp 21
@15, it isn't a right to own a gun. It is a right to form a militia. The justice who cites Black's law dictionary apparently lost his copy of the Bill of Rights, and decided to make something up instead. It's an expansionist legal ruling, but you don't have a right to gun. When SCOTUS returns to serving as a third branch, rather than a second legislative body, you can turn yours in.
Posted by biffp on December 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM · Report this
venomlash 22
@5: This.
Posted by venomlash on December 18, 2013 at 4:39 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 23
@21
Sorry, but the Founding Fathers intended firearms ownership to be a fundamental right. SCOTUS's ruling is in line with the intent of people who wrote the Bill of Rights. But I suppose you and Nanny Bloomberg know more about Constitutional Law than SCOTUS and the Founding Fathers. After all Bloomberg was made rich and powerful by god.

If gun ownership is not a right then you are welcome to attempt to confiscate them.
MOLON LABE!

* James Madison: Americans have "the advantage of being armed" -- unlike the citizens of other countries where "the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."

* Patrick Henry: "The great objective is that every man be armed. . . . Everyone who is able may have a gun."

* George Mason: "To disarm the people [is] the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

* Samuel Adams: "The Constitution shall never be construed . . . to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."

* Alexander Hamilton: "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."

* Richard Henry Lee: "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."


Posted by Cascadian Bacon on December 18, 2013 at 5:19 PM · Report this
venomlash 24
@23: Context is everything, mon amigo.
At first I was going to exhaustively go through the context of each quote individually, but I found it more convenient to simply point out that those were copied and pasted wholesale from a screed by the witty and delightful Ms. Phyllis Schlafly.

In brief:
-the Madison quote explicitly refers to state militias in comparison to a federal standing army
-the Henry quote does not seem to have a source
-the Mason quote again explicitly refers to the organized militia being that which was to be disarmed
-the Adams quote comes from language that was REJECTED by the Massachusetts convention that he put it before
-the Hamilton quote is sloppily fabricated from a piece endorsing (again) organized militias
-the Lee quote is, yet again, talking about militias

I'm noticing a pattern here.
Posted by venomlash on December 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 25
@24
Glad you saved some work.
Yea I grabbed the first one I found, dosen't really matter. It's been done to death, and already deterimined to be an individual right in Heller VS DC and McDonald VS Chicago, Furthermore the federalist papers refer to firarms being an individual right many times.

Butn the end, our rights are not protected by governments, old documents or lofty spiritual beigns. Our rights are protected by weapons.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon on December 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 26
@25- Our rights are protected by our political engagement. Afghanistan has an extremely well armed population, how are their rights?
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceclop on December 18, 2013 at 7:35 PM · Report this
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@26: Subject to the whims of said armed population, because they lack a strong central power.
Posted by Hanoumatoi on December 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM · Report this
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceclop on December 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 29
@26

Well Islam had never been a beacon of freedom and human dignity. They treat their women like chattel and stone people to death for violating Sharia.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon on December 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM · Report this
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Bloomberg & the homeless: What the Times left out
By Nicole GelinasDecember 15, 2013

With last week’s book-length series about a homeless 12-year-old named Dasani, The New York Times aimed to show how horrible it is to be a poor child under a billionaire mayor. Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio took the bait, saying “we cannot let children like Dasani down.”

In fact, Mayor Bloomberg’s New York has tried everything to help Dasani, easily $1 million worth of spending — including nearly half a million in housing, plus hundreds of thousands more on education, a child-neglect investigation, drug rehab and policing.

But you can’t help a family that won’t help itself.
Times reporter Andrea Elliott tells us how Dasani lives in a “squalid” homeless shelter with her seven siblings, mother and stepfather for three years after they get evicted from an apartment. But she never states the obvious: The reason the mother and stepfather can’t house their family isn’t poverty, it’s drug addiction.

Police arrest Dasani’s mother for possession outside the shelter, and she pleads guilty. Both parents fail drug tests. Neither has held a job in “years.”

Nor does Elliot ever adequately explain how Dasani’s family spends $13,464 a year the family gets in cash-benefits income — plus a $49,000 inheritance from 2008. It doesn’t go to housing, food or clothes: The city, the feds (via another $15,000 a year in food-stamp benefits) and private charities pay for that stuff.

Another fact the “tale of two cities” folk never mention: 11.1 percent of families with children who show up at shelters come from outside of New York City. New York may be unequal, but these folk think they’ve got a better shot here.

For a good illustration of how the city does help struggling New York families who help themselves, look at Martha Monroe — a young Harlem woman who fell behind on her rent starting last year after she lost her bank job and went through a difficult pregnancy.

To keep Monroe and her baby boy from a homeless shelter, the city paid some of her back rent. (She cobbled the rest together from private charities, including Catholic Charities.) Now she works at the Metropolitan Museum. “We get paid every two weeks,” she says. “One paycheck goes toward rent.”
The city did the same for a woman named April Bolling — a soft-spoken woman in her 50s who worked for 12 years before having an addiction relapse and losing her job.

Now, April must attend outpatient rehab. She’s taken a seasonal job, and the city is working to find her permanent employment. “This is the best thing to ever happen to me,” says Bolling.

“This” is the Homebase program to prevent evictions. The Bloom­berg innovation helped 10,800 families last year — including at least 650 families who’d likely have wound up in a shelter.

Help can be as simple as holding a class for people worried about eviction to tell them to open their mail, show up to court and offer the judge a plan. Fifteen people showed up to one such Homebase class in Harlem this summer.
But to avoid eviction, parents have to do something. For one thing, they have to show up to ask for help before they end up at a shelter. And addicts must confront their problems.

One-third of the people who avoid eviction via Homebase have jobs. But others do as little as spending income from government benefits on rent, rather than on drugs.

Taxpayers save $1.27 for every dollar spent on Homebase: Keeping people from spending a collective 15,000 nights in shelters saves taxpayers $30 million a year in costs.

But success stories don’t fit the Times’ inequality sob story. So Elliott writes that as Dasani has suffered, some New Yorkers are gulping down “$740 bottle[s] of chardonnay” after buying $845 “calfskin boots.”
And Bloomberg spent $7 million renovating Gracie Mansion, complete “with exquisite touches like an 1820s chandelier.”

Heartless — except the city spends $981 million a year on the homeless, nearly twice the $497 million before Bloomberg took office.

It’s hard to see what more the city could do for Dasani’s family, besides what it eventually does do: find a better shelter with a kitchen and a private bathroom.

De Blasio will learn: All the money in the world can’t save all the Dasanis. And soon, he’ll be the mean mayor who can’t fix everything.
Nicole Gelinas is a contributing editor to the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal.
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Posted by Sugartit on December 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM · Report this
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@30
Are you kidding? I didn't get past "including nearly half a million in housing." In New York a studio apartment cost a million dollars so try again because your impressive article, which you stole wholesale, is just crap.
Posted by Madame Chintoa on December 19, 2013 at 8:21 AM · Report this
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You can interpret this anyway you want Mr. Constant but I do not see where Mayor Bloomburg actually said that God wants him to be rich and that God wants poor people to starve.

Sure Bloomburg may be a royal dick but your reading comprehension is poor.

Posted by greenriversodaisyummy on December 19, 2013 at 10:49 AM · Report this
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It bothers me a little that a man with Bloomberg's resources has not examined the details of his "luck" by this point.
But it is absolutely reprehensible that he remains unwilling to do so. Willfully remaining ignorant makes his ignorance blameworthy.
Posted by YoungBS on December 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM · Report this
venomlash 34
@29: D'aww, it's never heard of modern-day Turkey, modern-day Jordan, the Fatimid Caliphate, or any of the various other Islamic states that valued egalitarianism and culture. Do your reading before you shoot your mouth off, pissant.
Posted by venomlash on December 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM · Report this
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Charles Allen of South Africa from the Voice for the Poor. I would just like to comment on the sick twisted mind of Michael Bloomberg who calls himself a Mayor, a Mayor of what? Just wish I had the opportunity to meet this fool face to face, and really put him to shame by exposing the truth of how sick minded he is publically. He has the audacity to use the Holy Name of God so to justify his self-righteous ways, and he believes he has the power to change God's Eternal Living Word to his worthless benefit. What is this fools email address? We would love to open his blinded eyes, so that he can see the truth of who and what he really is.
Posted by Charles Allen on December 30, 2013 at 4:42 AM · Report this

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