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Tuesday, August 13, 2013

Drive-By Shooting at Medical Pot Dispensary in South Seattle

Posted by on Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Seattle police tweeted news of a drive-by shooting on Rainier Avenue last night around 5:30. Local media mentioned the incident, but nobody noticed that the location in the story is a medical cannabis dispensary.

Seattle Police Department spokesman Mark Jamieson confirmed that the shooting occurred outside Columbia City Holistic Health, located at 5262 Rainier Avenue South. I contacted the dispensary for comment, but like most weed dealers I've ever known, their voicemail is full.

This is one of two medical pot dispensaries within 200 feet of my home, and I walk past CCHH nearly every day, so I'm a bit startled by the random gunshots. Admittedly, shootings seem a regular occurrence in my neighborhood, and dispensaries get robbed in the south end, too. I think gun-toting young men consider south Seattle pot shops fish in a barrel, seeing as there are at least eight such businesses in a three mile stretch of Rainier Avenue from the International District to Columbia City.


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Thank you for perpetuating the stereotype of the medical patient as criminals...."weed dealers" indeed. Perhaps their voicemail is full because their legal and legitimate place of business was involved in shooting?
Posted by stuffandthings on August 13, 2013 at 10:18 AM · Report this
wisepunk 2
I live right in this neighborhood, I heard the shots as I was getting home from work. CCHH is just on the other side of the church across the street.

CCHH is not what I would consider a very secure building. The people who run it leave the door open a lot, and you can look right inside and see the weed jars. I can verify that one of the windows was shot out of the building. The other dispensary in the hood has steel framed double doors and is a lot more secure.

I have to be honest, the people that I see working there look like they went legit about 3 weeks ago. If I saw them on the street, the first thought in my head would be "I bet that guy has some great weed".
Posted by wisepunk on August 13, 2013 at 10:37 AM · Report this
espato 3
@1 might as well call a spade a spade, the majority of these access points are run by weed dealers who actively resist any attempts to make cannabis non-criminal because that would hurt their profits.
Posted by espato on August 13, 2013 at 10:41 AM · Report this
The reversal of policies by the credit card companies that forced the dispensaries to become "cash only" can't be helping this. People like to rob businesses that they know have lots of cash.
Posted by chrisgreen on August 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM · Report this
Oh come on. I live in Columbia City and the clientele
I see coming and going from these shops sure dont look sick to me. Lets hurry up with legalization so it's as ubiquitous as booze.
Posted by clintboxe on August 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM · Report this
keshmeshi 6

Speaking of that, when the hell is the WSLCB going to release its guidelines?
Posted by keshmeshi on August 13, 2013 at 11:22 AM · Report this
@1, I think your anger is a little misdirected. You should really be upset with the users and dealers who put on a thin veneer of legitimacy with the medicinal label.
Posted by SPG on August 13, 2013 at 11:30 AM · Report this
@3, proof? Seems to me you're making blanket statements and using that as justification for a legitimate business to be shut down and/or shot up with no outrage from the community.
Posted by stuffandthings on August 13, 2013 at 11:32 AM · Report this
@7, just because a medical marijuana user doesn't fit your standard for "sick" when you view them coming in and out of a dispensary does not mean they do not need medical care.
Posted by stuffandthings on August 13, 2013 at 11:36 AM · Report this
@9 The wink-and-a-nod crowd is a significant enough portion of the Medical Marijuana Patient population as to be it's prominent signifier.

I worry that failing to purge this contingent will end up hurting patients, and hope that legalization helps in that effort.
Posted by The MM Community's Image Is Going To Pot on August 13, 2013 at 11:53 AM · Report this
I live a couple blocks north of CCHH--it was quite a number of shots yesterday, and just on the volume alone it was pretty startling. The corner of Rainier/Pearl/39th Ave has its share of gun/knife/car prowl/mugging issues aside from the pot shops. It also has its share of lovely human beings.
Posted by alight on August 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM · Report this
@6: I received this e-mail from the state board of alcohol and cannabis trade a couple minutes ago:

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:07:43 -0700
Subject: WSLCB staff to recommend re-filing marijuana rules

*Staff to Recommend Re-Filing Proposed Marijuana Rules to Accommodate Public Input*

OLYMPIA – Staff of the Washington State Liquor Control Board (WSLCB) will recommend the Board re-file the rules necessary to implement Initiative 502 to allow time to consider recent input.

Under the current schedule, the Board was expected to adopt the final rules at its regularly scheduled Board meeting tomorrow. Should the Board accept staff’s recommendation, staff will come back to the Board on September 4, 2013, with revised proposed rules.

Since filing the proposed rules on July 3, 2013, the Board and WSLCB staff received sufficient input to warrant re-filing the proposed rules. Last week, the Board held five public hearings across the state to solicit input. Under the state Administrative Procedures act, an agency must re-file proposed rules if there are any substantive changes.

Should the Board accept the proposed rules on September 4, 2013, staff will immediately file a new CR 102 (proposed rulemaking) with the Code Reviser’s Office and begin a six week schedule of collecting public input and holding at least one public hearing. The agency’s published timeline will be adjusted to reflect the new schedule. The WSLCB remains on schedule to meet the I-502 required deadline of having rules in place by December 1, 2013.

Key elements of the rules that will be included in the revised proposed rules include: limiting the amount of total marijuana production, identifying the number of retail locations per county and their locations, identifying the total amount of product that a licensee may have on hand, as well as further clarifying certain definitions and other revisions.

“The process is working exactly as it should,” said agency director Rick Garza. “Potential licensees, local governments, law enforcement and the general public all deserve clarity and certainty in the rules. Our stakeholders are not telling us to hurry up. In fact, they are asking us to consider their comments for the proposed rules. Their input now will only help strengthen and improve the rules that will govern Washington’s system of legal marijuana.”

Revised Proposed Rulemaking Schedule**

· September 4, 2013 File Supplemental CR 102 with revised proposed rules
· October 9, 2013 Public Hearing (Location TBD)
· October 16, 2013 Board Adoption (CR 103)
· November 16, 2013 Rules become effective
· Nov. 18 - Dec. 18, 2013 WSLCB accepts applications (30-day window)

The Board will hear staff’s recommendation at its regularly scheduled Board meeting at 10:00 a.m. on Wednesday August 14, 2013. The address is 3000 Pacific Avenue in Olympia.

For more information on the implementation of I-502, including fact sheets, FAQs, a revised timeline, and an opportunity to sign up for email alerts, please visit the WSLCB website at .
Posted by Phil M on August 13, 2013 at 12:10 PM · Report this
fletc3her 13
The medical marijuana dispensaries around here are run by the same people who used to sell illegal weed. They have big green plus signs and require a visit to a chiropractor to get a "green card" before you can buy, but it's literally sold from some of the same locations. I'm sure they serve some legit prescriptions as well.
Posted by fletc3her on August 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM · Report this
You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me 14
Yeah... And my 3 Martini evening habit is strictly medisinal too.
Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me on August 13, 2013 at 12:19 PM · Report this
pragmatic 15
@9 There's something like 75 dispensaries in town. There's no way that legitimate demand for medical marijuana is that high. The only reason so many exist is due to the shady stuff @13 mentions.
Posted by pragmatic on August 13, 2013 at 12:56 PM · Report this
Columbia city is a great neighborhood and the guys who run that dispensary are good people. They leave the door open because unlike most of the scary gentrifiers who recently moved to Columbia city who are commenting on this page, they actually attempt to be part of the community. Shootings are not a regular occurance in any part of Seattle. Columbia city might seem like the "hood" if your not used to living in an urban area and an area that is so rich in diversity. But its not the hood and marijuana dispensaries are not runnin our neighborhood or making crime worse. There more than a handful of millionaires who live in our neighborhood and it is a far cry from being a dangerous place. In fact, it is very affluent. This kind of stuff happens everywhere, it could have been a corner store. Somebody saw someone they didn't like and tried to shoot them. It wasn't over marijuana or anything else related. Calm down with the stereotypes and pray no one got hurt. I don't think we need a police state over this.
Posted by Brandon S. on August 13, 2013 at 2:05 PM · Report this
Seems like a lot of you are uneducated and ignorant when it comes to medical marijuana, urban living and actual fact reading. Please do your research and educate your self before posting.
@ 4,9, 11, & 16, Thank-you for your responses, you show that compassion and human decency and literacy do still exist in America.
Posted by AVM on August 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM · Report this 18
"Somebody saw someone they didn't like and tried to shoot them. It wasn't over marijuana or anything related." How do you know this? I mean, have you walked that block? There's not that much there. They didn't shoot out the window of the east African grocery one door down, and they didn't shoot out the window of the mentally-disabled housing facility one door up.

And also, those young white men opened shop in the neighborhood two years ago. How others in the neighborhood are simply gentrifiers and these white boys are "actually part of the community" makes little sense. I certainly don't see them in other parts of our community, other than occasionally hanging outside their business.

Oh, and nobody got hurt, according to police. And if you think public shootings like this happen as much in North Seattle as South Seattle, you are sorely mistaken.
Posted by on August 14, 2013 at 6:58 AM · Report this
espato 19
@8 i have no proof that the "majority" fit into the category of profiteers, but the most vociferous opponents of I-502 were associated with the "medical" cannabis industry.

Posted by espato on August 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM · Report this
What's with all this blame the victim bs? It's almost like saying she deserved to be raped because her skirt was so short. Their business is legal. And discussion of previous illegal sale of weed is as relevant as brining up previous illegal interracial marriage. And those in the medical canibis community who opposed washington's pot "legalization" we're correct to come out against regressive aspects of the law that needlessly criminalizes growing a single plant in your own backyard or driving while sober. But hey, if industry and the state can profit it's ok!!! Also I lived in the north end before moving a few blocks from this incident. And there have been numerous shootings etc in the Ravenna/ lake city area I used to reside in prior to and after moving here....
Posted by Upchuck on August 14, 2013 at 8:17 PM · Report this

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