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Wednesday, June 26, 2013

No Deal Yet to Keep Coyotes in Phoenix as NHL's July 2 Deadline Looms

Posted by on Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:31 PM

The Glendale, Arizona city council emerged from a four-hour closed-door session Tuesday without voting on a proposed lease deal that would keep the NHL's Phoenix Coyotes playing at Jobing.com Arena. Council members—who are being asked to subsidize the team by as much as $15 million a year—are reportedly asking for more assurances that hockey operations would be a money making venture.

"It seems tight that we would hit a July 2 date," city spokeswoman Julie Frisoni told AZCentral.com. "But I would tell you that anything is possible.”

Glendale city council member Norma Alvarez, who is on the record as opposing a lease subsidy, was far less charitable toward the possibility of a deal, referring to her colleagues as (gasp) "knuckleheads" for even continuing negotiations:

“I called them knuckleheads, because they don’t get it. They don’t get it. They don’t get it. They’re going to continue discussions. Discussions of what? We’re selling City Hall because of paying $50 million. C’mon. C’mon.”

That's right, the council is preparing to sell city hall (actually, a lease-purchase agreement) for $30 million in order to pay back money borrowed from other city accounts in order to pay the $50 million it promised the NHL to cover the Coyotes losses over the past two seasons. Ouch.

Four new members were elected to Glendale's seven-member council last year, promising fiscal responsibility in the wake of the arena debacle. So yeah, it wouldn't be surprising at all if the council failed to agree to a new arena subsidy by the July 2 deadline the NHL has imposed. In which case we'll all soon find out whether a move to Seattle was anything more than an idle threat.

 

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Fnarf 1
They're going to sell City Hall to pay for the hockey team. That's beyond knuckleheadism. That's like selling your house to buy heroin -- not even heroin, but the promise of heroin that you already paid your dealer for. It reminds me of that idiot who kept paying Rita for sex, but never got any, in "Idiocracy". This is going to be a chapter in a pretty interesting book about sports holding cities hostage.

Can't wait to get in on that action.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on June 26, 2013 at 4:47 PM · Report this
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@1 you win the analogy of the week award.
Posted by grkle on June 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM · Report this
Ballard Pimp 3
Hmmm. How about blowing the dealer?
Posted by Ballard Pimp on June 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM · Report this
biffp 4
The Seattle Times article questioning why the NHL might use Seattle rather Quebec City as leverage rang true. Quebec is building a rink, and could put together a purchase offer. But people there would be angry at getting used; whereas, here it in Seattle it's 2 Mets fans possibly interested, and it looks like Seattle is being tested for future interest.
Posted by biffp on June 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 5
Heck, in our state the house and senate can't even agree if they have a deal or not.

Just send us the NHL and NBA teams before we have to take action ...
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on June 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM · Report this
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Not Idiocracy...but Sportsocracy!

As someone quipped, more people align with their sports teams than their political parties. What person or group can regularly get 10,000 or 50,000 people to come out for an event? Yet the Mariners and Seahawks do.

Each team then becomes our representative.

We send our teams to hunt for resources.

The victorious cities feast.

The losers starve.

This is the way.

The way of SportsTown, U.S.A.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on June 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM · Report this
Fnarf 7
@6, not quite. In big city sports, the winners AND the losers starve.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on June 26, 2013 at 7:34 PM · Report this
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#7

The Sports Economy in many ways is the future economy.

Think about automation and computers.

Once they do the basics, what do we do?

Think of the NFL economy.

It employs thousands of bodies, from top to bottom.

Players, coaches, trainers. Pro, college, high school.

Media. Reporters, writers, bloggers, videographers, radio hosts.

Production, engineering, statisticians.

Food, beverages, clothing.

It is a completely human economy, that can survive automation.

Maybe we'll all be part of a League in the near future.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on June 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 9
Well, someone has to pay the wages of people, since law is being outsourced to India and the new H1-B visas are even more of a farce than the previous ones were.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on June 26, 2013 at 8:26 PM · Report this
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@4 Given the realignment scheduled for next season, moving the Coyotes to QC isn't an option. Moving the team to Seattle would allow the NHL to maintain the agreed upon realignment.
Posted by searunner on June 26, 2013 at 9:08 PM · Report this
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Here's what bothers me.

How come whenever SciFi has future humans, they always have big bulbous heads for their presumably huge and more intelligent brains.

Yet if nature followed Moore's Law, wouldn't our heads keep shrinking and becoming more efficient yet more powerful? By the year 20,000 A.D. then, we should have a head the size of a USB drive.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on June 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM · Report this
Karlheinz Arschbomber 12
PLEASE go to Qu├ębec. PLEEEEEEEEESSSSSEEEEEE.

Fuck pro sports, and the faux-liberals who want to take public money and dump it into this shit.
Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arschbombe on June 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 14
Why wouldn't we want these parasites to move to Seattle?
Posted by keshmeshi on June 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM · Report this
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YES, PLEASE MOVE TO SEATTLE!!!!

I've been waiting 15 years for a team to come here. Glendale is too small and lacks any cultural support for a minor league hockey team, much less a pro team. The NHL is successful in markets that contain people who have played hockey, or at least can skate, and has a vibrant minor league (semipro, and amature) feeding system/history to support it. While I applaud the owners (and Wayne) for trying to bring hockey to the desert like Wayne did in LA, this was a significantly more difficult undertaking. Wayne had a captive audience of rich hollywood celebs and millionaires to buy box seats and tickets. He was a massive draw as expected... when he PLAYED. Coaching, GM, or even ownership is nothing people want to buy tickets to watch though. With no previous history in the area, the only thing supporting the NHLs move to Arizona were the couple thousand snowbirds and retired Canadians in the area. This plan was destined to fail in the first place.

Retired people on fixed incomes don't buy expensive box seats.

I've always been shocked they stole my Jets in the first place. I'm convinced it was a Gretzky plot to embarrass the team that kept him from winning the Avro Cup in his first year as a pro. :p

Gretzky is out of management, Winnipeg reclaimed a Jets franchise, and hockey is returning to a real metro center. Sanity will return to hockey... and the Stanley Cup will RETURN to Seattle in a few years. :)

Seattle BigDog

"There is nothing in the dessert, and no man needs nothing". - Lawrence of Arabia, 1962
Posted by BigDog on June 30, 2013 at 5:22 PM · Report this
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YES, PLEASE MOVE TO SEATTLE!!!!

I've been waiting 15 years for a team to come here. Glendale is too small and lacks any cultural support for a minor league hockey team, much less a pro team. The NHL is successful in markets that contain people who have played hockey, or at least can skate, and has a vibrant minor league (semipro, and amature) feeding system/history to support it. While I applaud the owners (and Wayne) for trying to bring hockey to the desert like Wayne did in LA, this was a significantly more difficult undertaking. Wayne had a captive audience of rich hollywood celebs and millionaires to buy box seats and tickets. He was a massive draw as expected... when he PLAYED. Coaching, GM, or even ownership is nothing people want to buy tickets to watch though. With no previous history in the area, the only thing supporting the NHLs move to Arizona were the couple thousand snowbirds and retired Canadians in the area. This plan was destined to fail in the first place.

Retired people on fixed incomes don't buy expensive box seats.

I've always been shocked they stole my Jets in the first place. I'm convinced it was a Gretzky plot to embarrass the team that kept him from winning the Avro Cup in his first year as a pro. :p

Gretzky is out of management, Winnipeg reclaimed a Jets franchise, and hockey is returning to a real metro center. Sanity will return to hockey... and the Stanley Cup will RETURN to Seattle in a few years. :)

Seattle BigDog

"There is nothing in the dessert, and no man needs nothing". - Lawrence of Arabia, 1962
Posted by BigDog on June 30, 2013 at 5:27 PM · Report this

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