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Monday, April 29, 2013

Here's Video of a Man Confronting an Awful Boston Marathon Bombing Truther

Posted by on Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM

I'm not sure this video solves anything, but it sure is satisfying:

(Via Oliver Willis.)


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Right out of central casting for white, male, dumb ass conspiracy theorist. Press credentials no less... with his cheap video camera.

You're right, it really doesn't solve anything but it was fun watching him squirm.

Posted by kmq1 on April 29, 2013 at 11:40 AM · Report this
Puty 2
I think this kind of thing is part of the solution. Dangerous, deranged people need to be called out. Most of us are too polite, too afraid or don't have the skill to do it as well as this guy.
Posted by Puty on April 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM · Report this
Fifty-Two-Eighty 3
Frankly, I think we should hand ol' Dzhokhar a shovel and tell him to start digging.

"How will I know when to stop?"

"Oh, don't worry, we'll let you know."
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty on April 29, 2013 at 11:51 AM · Report this
treefort 4
This is exactly the same as the 9-11 conspiracy nutjobs. Take some "evidence" out of context, then make up a background story that goes along with it. Coo coo.
Posted by treefort on April 29, 2013 at 11:52 AM · Report this
I would understand the level of anger if was truly insulting to imply that Obama would use a government agency to blow up innocent people.

Of course, Obama and the FBI didn't blow up those innocent people in Boston. It's silly to think they did. Thinking people know that Alex Jones is the professional wrestling of journalism.

But we know for a fact that Obama and the CIA blow up innocent people on a regular basis. Sure, they're not Americans, but they've done a whole lot more of it than those two losers in Boston did.
Posted by LJM on April 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM · Report this
thatsnotright 6
It's too bad that the unseen person calling this conspiracy-theorist ass-hat out has to resort to slurs against women (pussy, piss lips), the developmentaly delayed (retarded) and gays (go drink a dick). One would think that the level of intelligence he touts for "being from Cambridge" would provide him with more than a string of epithets to fling at his adversary.
Posted by thatsnotright on April 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM · Report this
"you fucking shit heel"

Posted by Westside forever on April 29, 2013 at 12:03 PM · Report this
mr. herriman 8
i agree w @6. (but tiny correction - he said piss flaps).

last night one of my facebook friends posted about the fertilizer plant explosion being deliberately caused by a missile. i was speechless.
Posted by mr. herriman on April 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM · Report this
@6 I have to agree. It'd be nice to call him a moron and let him make a fool of himself. Frankly, I think the denouncer just brought himself halfway down to this idiots level.
Posted by Frank Rizzo on April 29, 2013 at 12:11 PM · Report this
SPG 10
There's a natural appeal for people to be "in the know", just look at all your friends who are so possessive over the latest band that you haven't heard about. This misdirected appeal brings in far too many people who should really know better.
Once there are a few believers in the conspiracy theory, arguing and debunking with them takes time and resources away from the real story, the real issues, or distracts from digging deeper into the story to find some more meaning. The 9/11 nutters contributed a great deal to hiding Bush's utter incompetence by muddying the waters. There was a lot that went wrong around that event, but the nutters made it a lot harder for real investigations by casting anyone looking into it as a kook.
Posted by SPG on April 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM · Report this
Was that Danny Vinyard talking?
Posted by whatever420 on April 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM · Report this
CodyBolt 12
As a homosexual I would have told this guy to go suck a dick too.
Posted by CodyBolt on April 29, 2013 at 12:19 PM · Report this
ScienceNerd 13
This is just how people talk in Boston. I realize it might hurt your West Coast ears, but honestly... don't get your panties in a bunch.
Posted by ScienceNerd on April 29, 2013 at 12:23 PM · Report this
Yeah, try telling somebody in Boston about their "cis-privilege" or whatever and see how that goes.
Posted by The CHZA on April 29, 2013 at 12:28 PM · Report this
#5: And so what? Obama blowing up people in other countries has nothing to do with the Boston bombing, no matter how many moral parallels people want to draw. It's nice to remind people about our foreign policy, but some truther's crusade in Boston has nothing to do with that. It's a tenuous connection at best. It's like someone saying "the rape of Manchuria was bad, but Wounded Knee was bad too, so therefore we shouldn't condemn that completely unrelated tragedy without reflecting on Wounded Knee." And I don't buy for a moment that the Boston Bomber Bros. did what they did because of US foreign policy; that was just the pretext for their little psycho show. You can never condemn anything these days without having to immediately hear about something evil the US did somewhere else. It's the Chomskying of all discourse.
Posted by Jizzlobber on April 29, 2013 at 12:29 PM · Report this
I admire a fine string of epithets properly applied. I'm sorry anyone finds portions of them not politically correct, but remember the purpose and audience. It was intended for that skinhead shitheel conspiracist weisenheimer who works for Alex Jones. If it wasn't insulting to him, it would be pointless.

To communicate, one must speak the language of the person with which you wish to communicate. I strongly suspect this was exactly the right language.

Posted by Brooklyn Reader on April 29, 2013 at 12:47 PM · Report this
Jaymz 17
Totally agree with @16 - let it fly, for a full four minutes, with new and inventive and responsive epithets crafted on what's going on ("so you're stealing my material now?"). We need more of this....
Posted by Jaymz on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 PM · Report this
gttim 18
That guy may be a moron, a dumbass, and an idiot truther, but he was fucking great in "Full Metal Jacket!"
Posted by gttim on April 29, 2013 at 1:04 PM · Report this
@6 - to make an ass hat squirm, you have to speak ass hat.
Posted by nullbull on April 29, 2013 at 1:07 PM · Report this
thatsnotright 20
@13 and @16 claiming that people who don't like hearing whole classes of people demeaned are over-sensitive or suffering from an excess of political correctness is just another way of saying "Shut up, your opinions don't count." Luckily people like you no longer run dialogue in this country. The last election cycle clearly showed that marginalizing large parts of the population doesn't get you very far any more. As far as "west-coast ears" go, I grew up in the South, I know what bigotry sounds like, and you both are speaking loud and clear.
Posted by thatsnotright on April 29, 2013 at 1:12 PM · Report this
Knat 21
This guy isn't doing anyone any favors. But since the bombing only happened a couple weeks ago, I don't want to fault him for overreacting to some idiot conspiracy theorist nut shuffling around and up anti-government sentiment, especially after the local government did such a fantastic job catching the people actually responsible.
Posted by Knat on April 29, 2013 at 1:20 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 22
@ 20, I think telling people they're oversensitive only means that you're telling people that they're oversensitive. If you hear "Shut up!" when you're told you're oversensitive.... then you're probably oversensitive.
Posted by Matt from Denver on April 29, 2013 at 1:25 PM · Report this
@20 Can't we get any concession that what the epithet-thrower was doing was courageous, facing up to a cultural bully? Yes, out of context (or maybe even in context), the language was unforgivable, but it was not necessarily reflective of the speaker's attitude towards women, or towards LGBT folk. It was hateful language directed with purpose at a particular hateful (and culturally dangerous) person.

Any weapon is ugly, including weaponized language. But the Alex Jones tool was uglier by far.

That said, let me personally apologize to you for not sufficiently respecting your concerns and for making excuses for the speaker.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on April 29, 2013 at 1:27 PM · Report this
raindrop 24
Foul hateful loud language in public like that is disgusting.
Posted by raindrop on April 29, 2013 at 1:47 PM · Report this
Man. I am so envious of the guy calling him out. I wouldn't get two words in before I was shaking so much from anger I couldn't speak. That was a smooth, coherent and very effective rant, by the look on the dope's face.
Posted by ejamadoodle on April 29, 2013 at 1:57 PM · Report this
24: Sometimes I think if Seattle was burning while the country was being literally overrun with conspiracy-theory-believing right-wing paramilitaries, there'd still be people clucking and saying "this language does not belong in a respectable place like this!"
Posted by Jizzlobber on April 29, 2013 at 1:58 PM · Report this
About the only possible way our society can win as a people is if we recognize Jonesy and people like him for what they are - cancer that should be decisively excised. Get out the blowtorch and scalpel, kids, we're going to town*.

If bad words make you cry and want to go running to your hugbox, mull over the fact that Jones, Beck, and their ilk actively fan the flames of violent, paranoid people who not only harm others but undermine the very fabric of society and help prevent the creation of things like a social safety net, health care, and other elements up to and including protections of the very people you are offended for.

You can go reblog your outrage on tumblr with your other friends who think they're Harry Potter and continue to be a victim.

*note - I am advocating harsh language, public humiliation and shunning, not actual violence.
Posted by Soldier of Misfortune on April 29, 2013 at 2:19 PM · Report this
mr. herriman 28
@ soldier: nobody's arguing about the message, but how that message is delivered makes a difference in how it is received. that's all. we're not crying over bad words. we're saying it undermines the discussion when words like "retard" and "pussy" are thrown around. nothing is gained.
Posted by mr. herriman on April 29, 2013 at 3:06 PM · Report this
seandr 29
This totally solves things! More please!
Posted by seandr on April 29, 2013 at 3:23 PM · Report this
If we were dealing with rational, civilized people I'd be inclined to agree with you. You don't start with yelling, and insults. I guess it just comes down to semantics and I myself can't escape the sometimes arbitrary nature of this. Like, if I heard him yelling "you fucking faggot" I'd be in be inclined to agree with you, so I guess someone who's a bigger asshole than me would come on here and chide me for having arbitrary limits.

A bunch of deranged apes gathering around a man who thinks that gay people are the freakish result of a sinister NWO plot involving hormone-laden juice boxes (seriously, Jonesy said this) have pretty much escalated the discussion to the point that people who just calmly shake their heads at them are passive "sheep" to them. They just don't listen to anything other than screaming and they've probably forfeited their right to be addressed nicely.

If the internet existed in the 1969, would we be sitting around listening to people tsk approvingly at how badly behaved the Stonewall rioters were? Probably. Does this mean they were wrong?
Posted by Soldier of Misfortune on April 29, 2013 at 3:46 PM · Report this
schmacky 31
C'mon...I can't call someone a pussy now? What's up with that? Why don't I hear a similar outcry over calling someone a dick? After all, should I not get offended by someone equating my genitalia with asshole-ish behavior? And what about assholes? What's wrong with assholes? They are beautiful and don't deserve to be used in a derogatory way!!!

Seriously...words mean different things in different contexts. Relax.
Posted by schmacky on April 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM · Report this
mr. herriman 32
Of course they do schmacky. I have no problem with anyone being called a dick or even a cunt for that matter. Calling a man a pussy is a lot different than calling him a dick or calling a woman a bitch or a cunt because what's implied is that women are lesser, weaker, etc. It's akin to telling someone they hit or throw like a girl, and that's why it's sexist.

I agree with you @30 - I was coming at this as if a rational conversation between these two men were something possible, when obviously you're right - it's not. I have a knee-jerk reaction to the word retard. I always have.
Posted by mr. herriman on April 29, 2013 at 4:26 PM · Report this
lemonde 33
#6, it isn't right, but it's a pretty common New England/Boston thing to do.
Posted by lemonde on April 29, 2013 at 4:54 PM · Report this
sirkowski 34
Gomer Pyle child molesting fat ass.
Posted by sirkowski on April 29, 2013 at 5:20 PM · Report this
thatsnotright 35
@23 thank you for the olive branch. I applaud those who challenge individuals or groups who attempt to skew public discourse with disinformation. I just want to remind our friends that we don't need to demean our allies challenge our enemies.
Posted by thatsnotright on April 29, 2013 at 10:33 PM · Report this
thatsnotright 36
@31 I would never restrict your right to compare people to genitals. I merely hope that sometimes someone might be a little more creativewith epithetical language.
Posted by thatsnotright on April 29, 2013 at 10:49 PM · Report this
See also: "How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook" by Rick Perlstein, Rolling Stone,…
Posted by Phil M on April 30, 2013 at 12:01 AM · Report this
What a terrible news paper the Stranger. It is a shame to Seattle and to the world. Too much cursing a man accosting another man on the street is not something satisfying. The only redeeming qualities it has are the whores and weed advertisements.
Posted by Dzokhar on April 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM · Report this
@38 Well, I hope you can get enough for selling your ass to be able to afford some weed.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on April 30, 2013 at 12:07 PM · Report this
So what? The guy behind the camera's a dick just like Paul Constant. And why's he so upset about people suspecting the FBI? Does he work for them or something? It's not like they've never been caught setting up terrorists bomb plots before.
Posted by Paul Constant is a simple minded shill. on April 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM · Report this
"Alex Jones is your Jim Jones"

Solid fucking gold.

Somebody buy this guy a drink. Or 10...
Posted by joemomma on April 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM · Report this
#2: You're the shit!
Posted by moo on May 1, 2013 at 11:53 AM · Report this
In order to get directions to the MASS pike from downtown Boston, I had to call someone a douche-bag before I got a response using "excuse me...". Those slurs may not have solved anything tangible, but did you see how many people standing around started asking what was going on and had no clue as to what the Info Truth camp's beliefs were. All that hollering at least got people to bare minimum ask why?
Posted by hey now on May 2, 2013 at 8:47 AM · Report this

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