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Friday, April 19, 2013

Surely She Deserved It

Posted by on Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Via Reuters:

A five-year-old Indian girl was battling for her life on Friday after being kidnapped and brutally raped in the latest incident of sexual violence which has triggered nationwide protests.

The girl was attacked inside a locked room over a 48-hour period, police said, after being abducted as she played outside on Monday in a lower-middle class area of the capital New Delhi.

... Doctors said the girl’s genital area had been mutilated and that objects had been inserted inside her, causing serious internal injuries and infection.

I know this sounds almost too horrific for the mind to process but take heart. As one condescending Slog commenter recently explained to me, feminism already won. We won, ladies! We're no longer seen as objects to be used and abused—we're all separate but equal now!

So remember: there are two sides to every story, she was old enough to talk so surely she was old enough to seduce a gang of men into raping her, let's pray for the men, etc. etc. etc.

(Confidential to humanity: Fuck you, humanity.)

 

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tehjakers 1
Jesus H. Christ.
Posted by tehjakers on April 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM · Report this
Kinison 2
India is a Democracy?
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on April 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM · Report this
3
Does anybody else sometimes wish that next year's bird flu wipes us all out? The world would be a better place without us.
Posted by Root on April 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM · Report this
Lissa 4
Oh Cienna. :( I hope some one takes you out for hugs and drinks tonight. It's been a shitty, shitty week.
Posted by Lissa on April 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM · Report this
pfffter 5
WTF is wrong with India? Sheesh.
Posted by pfffter on April 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 6
Fuck.

Is this a new thing in India, or is it only new that this shit is getting international attention?
Posted by Matt from Denver on April 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM · Report this
7
Trigger warnings, please? At least on that last quoted paragraph, possibly on the whole thing.
Posted by TheLurker on April 19, 2013 at 1:20 PM · Report this
Zebes 8
Are we sure it wasn't a false rape accusation? C'mon, five year old girl, don't be that girl! Think of the boyz!
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on April 19, 2013 at 1:21 PM · Report this
sperifera 9
I don't know, Zebes, but it sounds like a legislate rape to me, not one of those 5-year-olds-with-remorse-afterwards rapes.
Posted by sperifera on April 19, 2013 at 1:26 PM · Report this
10
I can't even wrap my mind around this. I think my outrage is burned out for this week.
Posted by sisyphusgal on April 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM · Report this
11
@3 It's only a matter of time. Either a viral pandemic, or an asteroid, or one of our supervolcanoes will pop. But, the post-apocalyptic world won't be any nicer than this one. If there are any survivors, the only improvement may be that the fall of civilization, along with its technology and communications, will at least stop the conveying of bad news from all across the Earth right to our doorsteps for a few hundred years.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on April 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM · Report this
Backyard Bombardier 12
@2, @5. India. Yes, clearly, the problem here is India.
Posted by Backyard Bombardier on April 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM · Report this
Bauhaus I 13
Sounds like we need to start chopping off some dicks.
Posted by Bauhaus I on April 19, 2013 at 1:37 PM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 14
To answer "what the fuck is wrong with India," one huge problem is the simple lack of a functional justice system. People know that crimes will not be punished, and so they commit crimes. Institutionalized misogyny then highlights women as easy victims, who have even less agency when it comes to getting justice. But it is nothing new, we just actually hear about a few cases every now and then.

@7: This is not LiveJournal, it is your responsibility to control your own media consumption, not other people's responsibility to shield you from certain details.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on April 19, 2013 at 1:39 PM · Report this
pfffter 15
@12 oh right, the problem here is ... what the fuck is your point, dickwad?
Posted by pfffter on April 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM · Report this
16
How is this a feminist issue? Are we sure this isn't pedophilia, which does not know gender (at least when we're talking about priests and little boys, because that's NOT a homosexual act, right?)
Posted by not a feminist issue on April 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM · Report this
Backyard Bombardier 17
My point is that in the battle between misogyny and bigotry, clearly bigotry wins. "Forget it Jake, it's [India]." As if rape doesn't happen fucking everywhere.
Posted by Backyard Bombardier on April 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM · Report this
pfffter 18
@17 Well, if you'd been paying attention to the news, you jackass, you would have noticed that this is about the fifth time this kind of brutal attack has happened in India in the past few months. So yeah, rape happens everywhere, but India seems to have cornered the market on brutal gang rapes where they practically blend the victim's insides.
Posted by pfffter on April 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM · Report this
Knat 19
I think tehjakers already covered everything @1.
Posted by Knat on April 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM · Report this
treacle 20
@16 - Wow. Really? That blind, are you?
Posted by treacle on April 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM · Report this
21
@18, there's nearly a billion people in India. Of course there are brutal rapes in India. There are brutal rapes in Seattle, many over the same time span.
Posted by GermanSausage on April 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 22
But hey, if only we wreck our engineering and information systems infrastructure by sending jobs and capital oversees and create a couple of billionaires (just like US) then we've have a world full of civilized democracies instead of a junkyard of crappy code, slave plantations and sexual brutalization.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on April 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM · Report this
23
Gross.
Posted by beva on April 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM · Report this
keshmeshi 24
@16,

The majority of rapists who attack children are not pedophiles. They are rapists who saw the child as an easy target.

P.S. Fuck off.
Posted by keshmeshi on April 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM · Report this
25
@24:

the child as an easy target, not the female as an easy target. Not a feminist issue.
Posted by not a feminist issue on April 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM · Report this
26
@25 I think the feminist focus came from the fgm
Posted by tal on April 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 27
Words can't describe the total horror I am feeling right now. Next week fucking better be nothing but news stories of kittens and unicorns and free yummy cupcakes
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on April 19, 2013 at 2:28 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 28
@25 - Then clarify: how old must she be before she is regarded as a female human being?
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on April 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM · Report this
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A five-year-old girl, everybody. Some people out there are okay, or even enjoy, capturing little children and inflicting maximum pain on them. Just for fun. It doesn't bother them or affect them at all.

This may be the worst thing I've read on Slog. I'm thinking back and trying to recall something that trumps the rape and gleeful torture of little children.

@11 Don't forget a deep nuclear winter. That could be one of the major extinction events, taking out many species of plants and animals in addition to humans. Then maybe the rodent descendants would take over?
Posted by floater on April 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM · Report this
sirkowski 30
India has always been like that. It's just that we hear about it because they have electricity now.
Posted by sirkowski http://www.missdynamite.com on April 19, 2013 at 2:40 PM · Report this
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@28:

I didn't say she wasn't female. I just didn't abscribe any motives to the rapists based on gender, and neither can you.
Posted by not a feminist issue on April 19, 2013 at 2:58 PM · Report this
Backyard Bombardier 32
Things I have learned from this thread:

1. Female children aren't really female. Therefore,

2. Rape isn't a feminist issue if the victim is a child. And in any case,

3. Hey, it isn't like it's real people getting raped or doing the raping. It's India. Bunch of savage wogs. What do you expect?

4. Some people in this thread need to choke on a bag of dicks.
Posted by Backyard Bombardier on April 19, 2013 at 2:59 PM · Report this
33
abscribe = ascribe. Sheesh. In any case; according to SLOG: if a male diddles a little boy, we can't call that a homosexual act, because pedophilia doesn't have anything to do with gender preference; it's a power thing. If a male diddles a little girl, we shouldn't assume it's because he's heterosexual, he's just a pedophile too, right?

In any case, the perpetrators should have their junk boiled in oil.
Posted by not a feminist issue on April 19, 2013 at 3:04 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 34
India is a sexually repressed nation. They have an unhealthy attitude toward sex. The British prude laws have damaged the men. You see the same thing in the Middle East where men rape when they can. The "Judeo-Christianist" poison is causing so much heart ache.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on April 19, 2013 at 3:23 PM · Report this
stirwise 35
@33: mutilation and penetration with foreign objects ≠"diddling"
Posted by stirwise on April 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM · Report this
37
@35 Maybe I'm just overly sheltered, but until these India stories I had never heard of rape/impalement/disembowelments like these. These are brutal murders/attempted murders almost more than they are rapes. Something in me wants to try to fathom why, even as the rest of me recoils in horror. Is it that these men have no idea of female anatomy, or no clue how to do penetrative sex? We know there are wide swaths of complete ignorance among the poor. Is that what this is? (I mean besides the utter disregard for human dignity and life.) Where the hell did they get the idea to use implements for these assaults? There's something very deeply sick going on there, on top of the usual sick stuff that leads some men to rape and assault women and children.

Any Indian cultural experts in the house who might have a read on this phenomenon?
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on April 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM · Report this
TreGibbs 38
Yet another example of how human beings are a cancer on the planet.
Posted by TreGibbs on April 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM · Report this
Backyard Bombardier 39
@37: I don't thing it's cultural. Rape is a crime of violence, and violent means will be used. Google "rape with foreign object" if you feel like being depressed for a couple of hours. There's a focus on it in India because of a couple of high profile cases, but it goes on everywhere. India, the Congo, San Francisco, Brooklyn... everywhere. It's a cop-out to say "Oh, well, what do you expect... India."
Posted by Backyard Bombardier on April 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM · Report this
40
The US is hardly a bastion of piety when it comes to taking care of children.

Here's the disgusting perv who raped and killed a 6 month old baby girl. 6 MONTHS OLD! WTF?
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_n…

And the US' record on child abuse and neglect....as reported by the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canad…

Posted by StuckInUtah on April 20, 2013 at 9:55 AM · Report this
femwanderluster 41
@37 I can't even begin to address the fucking lack of insight nor find the point of your very careless comments.

"These are brutal murders/attempted murders almost more than they are rapes."

WHAT. THE. FUCK. I have to come back to this because I just can't right now. I mean, REALLY?!? I can't internet-scream loud enough.

"Something in me wants to try to fathom why, even as the rest of me recoils in horror."

We know the source of your denial and it ain't a fatherfuckin' river: Fear.

Women and girls are oh-so intimate with fear, we live our [w]hole lives knowing that any of the other less-than-half of the world's Homo sapiens population could turn on us at any moment and if they do, it's all our fault. That's like a infinite course meal in fear; the dishes may be different but they're all prepared by the same cock chef and they never stop coming, served with a smirk and a pat on our head.

"Is it that these men have no idea of female anatomy, or no clue how to do penetrative sex? We know there are wide swaths of complete ignorance among the poor. Is that what this is? (I mean besides the utter disregard for human dignity and life.)"

Are you being purposely obtuse? Are you mocking "the poor?" Are you mocking what these patriarchy-sick cocks did to a FIVE YEAR OLD GIRL?!?

HILARIOUS aside, by the way, brings me back to the first rancid burst of your commentary jizz--
"These are brutal murders/attempted murders almost more than they are rapes." + "(I mean besides the utter disregard for human dignity and life.)"
= misogyny
If that equation does not make sense to you then go do some reading until it does--in the words of Lindy West:
"Catch [the fuck] up or own your prejudice."

"Where the hell did they get the idea to use implements for these assaults? There's something very deeply sick going on there, on top of the usual sick stuff that leads some men to rape and assault women and children."

No, no, not really, it's all the same. The "deeply sick [thing] going on" and "the usual sick stuff" are one and the same, varying by degrees only: rape culture; the very necessary and efficient engine of patriarchy.

This is not about getting to third base with your math class crush. This is not about intimacy or romance or lust: it is about control, the sexualization of power, of dominance, of hierarchy.

I cannot contain my utter contempt for your mansplainy, ignorant, concern-trolly and dismissive chauvanism.

What is the point to your comments? I honestly want to know what you are trying so hard to add to this discussion (if you are genuinely engaged and not trolling), but I keep coming up negative. Either you are that naive or that big a dick; if you're both, please see the following.

@38 you make a common mistake in equating men to all humans. I'll fix that for you:
"Yet another example of how [men] are a cancer on the planet."

My fave current quotes:
"All men must die, but we are not men."
-- Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
&
"It's my favorite kind of battle: two men enter, one me leaves."
-- April Ludgate, Parks'n'Rec
More...
Posted by femwanderluster on April 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM · Report this
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@41 I have only one suggestion for you. You need to learn when people are agreeing with you.

We may not all know the correct phraseology, or be the clearest writers, but you err if you always assume the worst of intentions, attitudes and biases based solely on that.

As for my wondering about the poor in India, India is a deeply-divided country, with seven main castes. These castes dictate, for the most part, the rest of a person's life, in terms of education, social opportunities, employment, etc. Those nearer the bottom of the pile, and that's the largest segment of the Indian population, are severely poor, extremely uneducated, and have the shortest lifespans, at least from what I've read. This may be outdated, and I'm sure someone will correct me, but I think it's still largely true. The middle class in India is tiny. The upper class is tinier. The poor class is huge. Median (half make more, half make less) income in India is reported as $735. Per YEAR.

My impression, from the reporting I've seen, and I just can't read these stories in great detail because they're too revolting, is that these animals who commit these gang rape/murder atrocities are not from the upper income classes.

I certainly wasn't speaking about rape in general, or rape overall, none of which is the least bit acceptable. But, these crimes are in a horrendous class of their own and I can't help but feel there must be something about the Indian social structure that contributes to that.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on April 20, 2013 at 5:55 PM · Report this
Sabotage 44
Ugh, the comparison between priests diddling boys and raping a 5-year-old girl is just heinous and a cheap attempt to score points.

We do not distinguish between heterosexual and homosexual when an adult molests a child because the PREFERENCE of the adult isn't relevant relative to the power felt over dominating the child. That doesn't mean that the child's gender is wholly irrelevant in a larger context.
Posted by Sabotage on April 22, 2013 at 6:59 AM · Report this

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