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Friday, April 19, 2013

One Marathon Bombing Suspect Dead After Shootout with Police; Second Suspect at Large

Posted by on Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:02 AM

The situation in Boston that Dominic told you about earlier this evening is still developing. Now the Boston Globe says:

One marathon suspect has been captured, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation.

Another remains on the loose in Watertown after a firefight with police. Authorities have established a 20-block perimeter as they search for him.

I'm following the #watertown hashtag on Twitter and listening to the WCVB livestream and the Boston Police, Fire, and Emergency scanner and will update if new information comes in.

UPDATE 11:42 PM: The Boston Globe report seems to be based on a single source, so please bear in mind that this could be another false alarm. Meanwhile, other Boston news outlets are saying that the one Watertown shooter who was taken into custody has died.

UPDATE 11:49 PM: Police on the scanner are referring to the suspect on the loose as the man in the white hat from the Boston Marathon bombing photos that the FBI released today. The actual quote on the scanner was "the party that is outstanding is the party with the white hat that was identified in the photos."

UPDATE 12:02 AM: The name Sunil Tripathi is getting tossed around a lot on Twitter right now, saying it was mentioned on the BPD scanners. In fact, "Sunil Tripathi" is at the top of the US Twitter trending topics right now. This is a name that started showing up on Reddit amateur sleuth threads earlier this afternoon in connection with the bombing. Tripathi is a Brown student who disappeared last month, leaving a cryptic note. Authorities have not released the contents of that note. Here's one story about his disappearance. Here's another. Here's all the information Reddit has on Tripathi. Here's a cache of the Tripathi family's "Help Us Find Sunil Tripathi" Facebook page, which was taken down around eleven o'clock tonight. It's important to note that this is all internet speculation, and Twitter might be seriously CNN-ing this whole story right now. (Also part of Reddit's investigation: In late March, some homemade explosives were found near Hanover, MA.)

UPDATE 12:36 AM: Police on the scanner are asking for buses to evacuate the area, leading some to speculate that there are explosive devices in the area. According to the scanner, they've got the area "locked down" and are waiting for daylight. Citizens are advised to stay in their homes.

UPDATE 1:10 AM: Boston's Police Commissioner has reportedly confirmed that the suspect taken into custody, the Marathon bomber in the black hat, has died.

UPDATE 1:15 AM: Boston PD just tweeted this:


UPDATE 1:33 AM: Someone on the scanner warned police to use extreme caution, because the suspect "might have an explosive on his person."

UPDATE 1:39 AM: MIT has tweeted that "a suspicious package" has been found on Memorial Drive. UPDATE UPDATE: False alarm!

UPDATE 1:56 AM: We're still about an hour away from daylight in Massachusetts. Now NBC is raising doubts about the internet's Tripathi theory:


UPDATE 2:21 AM: Williams has directly refuted the Tripathi rumors, saying that his sources say the bombers "were foreign nationals. They were here legally." He also says they panicked when their photos were released today. If Williams is right, Reddit is going to have to turn in its shiny new police detective's badge. Forty minutes to sunrise.

UPDATE 2:34 AM: At a press conference, a Beth Israel hospital spokesperson said that a patient died there tonight due to multiple gunshot wounds and blast wounds. They wouldn't confirm the patient was the bombing suspect, but I don't think they receive many multiple-gunshot-and-explosion patients in the emergency room on a Thursday night.

UPDATE 2:45 AM: All subway and commuter rail service is suspended in Boston right now. People are told to stay at home, businesses are told to stay closed until further notice. Watertown is on lockdown, 9000 policemen are in the area, and the FBI is moving in.

UPDATE 3:12 AM: This Boston Globe story is just about as good of a "story so far" roundup as I can imagine.

UPDATE 3:30 AM: Now that NBC's Pete Williams has shamed all but the most shameless of Redditors, he's providing more information from his sources, saying that the two suspects are either from Turkey or are Chechen refugees. Just after that, the AP announced that the suspects are "from Russia region near Chechnya." NBC says that they're brothers. But remember that if CNN's epic shit-eating contest from earlier this week taught us anything, it's that sources can be misleading.

UPDATE 3:38 AM I can't keep my eyes open any longer. I have to get some sleep. I encourage you to check out the WHDH livestream, as well as all the resources I linked to above. See you after a couple hours of fitful, unsatisfying sleep, hopefully to news that the second suspect has been captured without incident.

UPDATE 3:49 AM: Okay, okay, one more:


Reddit better get started on those handwritten apology notes now.

 

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long-time reader 1
Let's all argue about whether it was Mohamedans or Jesusans.
Posted by long-time reader on April 18, 2013 at 11:42 PM · Report this
Ballard Pimp 2
Go to bed, Paul. By morning this will all be sorted out and you will be much more rested.
Posted by Ballard Pimp on April 18, 2013 at 11:57 PM · Report this
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They could be Pastafarians.
Posted by Machiavelli was framed on April 18, 2013 at 11:57 PM · Report this
Posted by Joel_are on April 19, 2013 at 12:10 AM · Report this
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what is up with all of our local newscasts going off air as per usual when this shit is breaking in real time?
Posted by genevieve on April 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM · Report this
Posted by tim koch on April 19, 2013 at 12:19 AM · Report this
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here is a good pic of the guy as they arrested him tonight:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-…

Posted by tim koch on April 19, 2013 at 12:25 AM · Report this
jenniferjane 9
live CNN is a good source on top of Wesley Lowery.
Posted by jenniferjane http://morningbikeporn.blogspot.com/ on April 19, 2013 at 12:26 AM · Report this
evilvolus 10
I've never read a phrase as depressing as "Also part of Reddit's investigation"
Posted by evilvolus on April 19, 2013 at 12:37 AM · Report this
seandr 11
Boston police scanner here:
http://tunein.com/radio/Boston-Police-Fi…

Mike Mulugeta and Sunil Tripathi were named on the scanner as suspects 1 and 2.
Posted by seandr on April 19, 2013 at 1:02 AM · Report this
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Homegrown terrorists. One wealthy suburbanite Ivy Leaguer. One retarded Eminem fan. Islamic-sounding names but no readily comprehensible motives.

I think it's safe to say that all our presumptions were wrong. MacCrocodile's two-kids-in-a-trenchcoat was about as close as any other guess.
Posted by d.p. on April 19, 2013 at 1:10 AM · Report this
seatackled 13
Are they even Islamic-sounding, or just foreign and non-Euro-sounding?
Posted by seatackled on April 19, 2013 at 1:28 AM · Report this
14
Please make "CNN-ing" as common as the term "Googling". They deserve it. In John Stewart's Name, Amen.
Posted by happy time on April 19, 2013 at 2:45 AM · Report this
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@12: Or they're Russian.
Posted by Hanoumatoi on April 19, 2013 at 3:40 AM · Report this
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From "near Chechnya"? Not sure what that means.
Posted by Hanoumatoi on April 19, 2013 at 3:43 AM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 17
It;s too early to have a discussion over motive. We ought to wait until we have at least some evidence to base anything on.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on April 19, 2013 at 4:07 AM · Report this
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But I thought SLOG was collectively sure they were right-wing white rednecks? Maybe SLOG should turn in its detective badge as well.
Posted by catsnbanjos on April 19, 2013 at 4:21 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 19
@ 18, some on SLOG were certain it was Islamofascists. So, no, "collectively" SLOG did not have a single opinion.
Posted by Matt from Denver on April 19, 2013 at 4:50 AM · Report this
Abe Frohman 20
CNN is reporting they were Chechen. Which means they're probably from New Zealand.
Posted by Abe Frohman on April 19, 2013 at 4:54 AM · Report this
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@18

That wouldn't be the worst description of some of the Chechnyan refugees living out in the hills.

Of course, those tend to be right-wing white muslim rednecks, so I imagine we won't be hearing much more from here on out about their traditional values, skin color, or rural upbringing.
Posted by robotslave on April 19, 2013 at 4:54 AM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 22
You're basing everything on the ethnicity of one of the two suspects. Do you realize that?

When you say, "It must be this, because he was Chechen", that's the logical equivalent of saying, "It must be this because he is Black".

Now, let's step back here for a second. I'm, not calling anyone a racist, I'm just suggesting that we all need to think about what we're saying.

We have zero information that could lead us to make a good assessment of motive. It's understandable that everyone wants to know why, but innocent people uninvolved with this case could be hurt if we start propagating rumors of Chechens involved in some conspiracy to get America. All we know right now is that it's two college kids from MIT.

They've got names you're not used to hearing up here in the Pac NW. But that's all it is right now-just a couple of unusual names. There's nothing we can infer from their names other than that.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on April 19, 2013 at 5:10 AM · Report this
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@22

Well, I for one am going on quite a bit more than just the ethnicity of one of the brothers.
Posted by robotslave on April 19, 2013 at 5:23 AM · Report this
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It's pretty depressing that various media decided that Sunil only merited mention over a month after he went missing simply because, again, a month after he went missing, a bombing occurred an hour away from where he lived.
Posted by Cad in Decadent on April 19, 2013 at 5:32 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 25
@ 22, just as an aside, I find it ironic that someone who routinely lets his passions carry him away, like you did last night on the "support the boys" thread, is now calling for people to step back.

That said, people need to step back.

I'm not ready to believe that this was politically motivated terrorism as yet, because politically motivated terrorists always claim responsibility and justify their actions. These guys, to date, have done nothing but try to get away. Right now, CF's "Leopold and Loeb" thing sounds more likely.

Chechen separatism may not be dead, but it's very difficult to see why they would target anything in America, particularly a civic sporting event like the Boston Marathon. Americans aren't oppressing Chechens, and Chechens are smart enough to know why the American cavalry never rode in to their rescue. They have no beef with America.

We don't know if the suspects are Muslims or not, but they haven't been conducting themselves like Muslim terrorists. First, Muslim terrorists like to die doing what they do. They don't run away. Second, like other politically motivated terrorists, they will tell you why they are killing people. As noted, these guys have not.

So, let's wait for the facts, eh?
Posted by Matt from Denver on April 19, 2013 at 5:35 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 26
@ 23, at that link it says you can send him a gift, and police cruisers are among the suggested gifts. I don't think that's what he wants right now.
Posted by Matt from Denver on April 19, 2013 at 5:38 AM · Report this
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Boston is effectively in lock-down right now. Transportation is shut down, residents advised to stay indoors, businesses advised not to open today.

Whether the suspects are of Russian, Tadjik, Chechen or whatever ethnicity, it's not clear whether that's even relevant to their motives. They've apparently been in this country a decade and could well be completely culturally assimilated.

One thing is clear, though. How easy it is for a couple of guys to cause huge mayhem and disruption of normal life for an entire metropolitan area. Anybody frustrated with life or bored with 3-D shooter games could do this.

We make it easy. Our society is particularly vulnerable to this. Easy acquisition of explosive materials. (I don't even own a gun, but I could walk into a store and buy a can or two of high-velocity powder "for reloading" today. No background check or license required.) Recipes online for making your own explosives from bulk beauty-supply and hardware store chemicals.

And guns. These two brothers had a shootout with dozens of police, held them at bay, and one of them escaped and is at large. How much firepower do we want civilians to have access to? Aren't we going to need to address that question one of these days?

I'm exhausted by the violence, and the potential for violence that we need to suffer. I certainly don't want to live in a police state, but the untrammeled freedom to initiate great violence isn't particularly attractive, either. I have no answers. How do we move closer to living in peace and harmony without losing our basic freedoms, and to what extent should those freedoms include the right to amass the tools of violence?
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on April 19, 2013 at 5:39 AM · Report this
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@23: "last seen today at 5:04 am"

Creepy.
Posted by doceb on April 19, 2013 at 5:42 AM · Report this
29
Sounds like the bombers were in school here for quite some time............
Posted by Hanoumatoi on April 19, 2013 at 5:52 AM · Report this
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@27 - Bored with 3-D shooter games? Really? When I get bored of those, I do something else, like garden or read or fuck.
Posted by Cad in Decadent on April 19, 2013 at 6:03 AM · Report this
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Some more facts to contemplate while we wait for all the facts.
Posted by robotslave on April 19, 2013 at 6:17 AM · Report this
32
Can I simply quote myself from yesterday?

"White like Chechens? Maybe you're too dumb to realize plenty of Mohammedans are of Caucasian stock"

Homegrown?

I was right again

You all owe me beers thanks

But keeping bending over backwards to figure out why the Mohammedans did this
- ill bet they were well-versed in their sense of victimhood after a few years in our public schools.
Posted by Underemployed drone on April 19, 2013 at 6:18 AM · Report this
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"some on SLOG were certain it was Islamofascists. So, no, "collectively" SLOG did not have a single opinion."

You mean those of us who were right?
Posted by Underemployed drone on April 19, 2013 at 6:23 AM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 34
@28, I guess this means the Republicans will want to invade Chechnya in retaliation.

And no one on Slog ever said they knew who did it (not even the commentators are as bad as CNN or The New York Post) many of us speculated and wondered. There is a huge difference
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on April 19, 2013 at 6:26 AM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 35
Well, troll dear, you certainly have the whole victimhood thing down pat. What high school did you go to?

And I wouldn't fret about being "underemployed". Something tells me that you are placed exactly where you were meant to be. Just accept it dear, and you won't be so bitter.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on April 19, 2013 at 6:26 AM · Report this
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How long until Sloggers accuse the police in Boston of using excessive force and profiling?

But keep bending over backwards to defend these thugs, it;s painful but entertaining to watch.

"Sounds like the bombers were in school here for quite some time............"

Something else I told you yesterday judging from the photos. Let me quote myself from 24 hours ago:

"Young, homegrown, Moslem terrorists. Probably well versed in the culture of victimhood put forth in our schools, now taking that learning for a field trip."
Posted by Underemployed Drone on April 19, 2013 at 6:28 AM · Report this
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" Republicans will want to invade Chechnya in retaliation."

We'll let the Russians handle that one ..... but maybe we can put our Underemployed Drones to work there too?

I think the words you're looking for Catalina are "hey, you were spot on, well done. Can I buy you that beer now?"

I'll use a new handle from now on, taken from the SLoggers who swore this bombing was by those of use who want smaller government, more efficient use of taxes and less welfare in the USA:
Posted by So mark my words on April 19, 2013 at 6:40 AM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 38
Well, we do have to wonder who put them up to it. Probably some right-wing group.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on April 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM · Report this
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I'm pretty sure the NRA was behind this.
Posted by CPN on April 19, 2013 at 6:52 AM · Report this
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"Well, we do have to wonder who put them up to it. Probably some right-wing group."

Keep hope alive Catalina.
Posted by So mark my words on April 19, 2013 at 7:06 AM · Report this
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Counting the seconds until Sloggers start blaming America anyway..... 3 2 1 .....

Me? I blame rap music.

Posted by So mark my words on April 19, 2013 at 7:08 AM · Report this
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Oh, for fuck's sake. Everything the internet knew at 2am was wrong. This has been modernity's dumbest week yet.
Posted by d.p. on April 19, 2013 at 7:11 AM · Report this
Fifty-Two-Eighty 43
@39: Yep. Damn that Wayne LaPierre. It's all his fault.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on April 19, 2013 at 7:13 AM · Report this
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No D.P., some of us were right, YOU were wrong.

Anyone wanna bet one of these morons was an "aspiring rapper"? You lost your last bet with me when I told you it was young, homegrown, Chechen Muhammedans.
Posted by So mark my words on April 19, 2013 at 7:14 AM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 45
Obviously, this is America's fault.

I'm distraught. Thank the universe for rap music. It's the only thing that will get me through this. That, and lattes and Chardonnay.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on April 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM · Report this
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@37, "Republicans want to invade Chechnya."

To be fair, if the bombers where Chechnyan, a Republican president would have invaded Suriname, and all the Republicans would have cheered him on.
Posted by GermanSausage on April 19, 2013 at 8:21 AM · Report this
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About 1 in 5 people in the world are Muslims of some sort or the other.

Congrats to everyone who got a 1 in 5 guess correct IF it turns out these guys were Muslims.

Of course, if you really want to gloat, you're hoping their attacks are religiously motivated (and these guys turn out to be Muslims.)

I still expect there's a guy in his 40s or 50s, paranoid, unmarried, wearing a double-breasted suit waiting to get caught.

But, you know what unemployed drone? If it turns out you're right, I'll buy you a beer and listen to you gloat for ten minutes.

(I'll buy you two beers if you admit you were pretty worried when the pictures came out and those guys didn't look like you expected they would.)
Posted by six shooter on April 19, 2013 at 8:22 AM · Report this
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@45 -- Catalina, my dear... if I ever discover a Chardonnay latte, I will sell it to Starbucks and tell them to call it a Vel-duRay.
Posted by six shooter on April 19, 2013 at 8:38 AM · Report this
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Man sloggers are the worst troll feeders. You all know you're spending enite comment threads day after day trying to interact logically with an unregistered troll who uses the world "Moslem" right?
Posted by chi_type on April 19, 2013 at 8:49 AM · Report this
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@37 Congratulations, I guess, on being right. I'm not sure what that proves or accomplishes, but you were the most right, for what it's worth. If it matters. Maybe Dan will mail you a mini trophy or some sort of Slog plaque.

I prefer Underemployed Drone.
Posted by floater on April 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM · Report this
evilvolus 51
Hey, guess who else owes some apology letters...how about the guy who spent hours last night repeating wild speculation about Sunil Tripathi based on the investigative skills of Reddit. Shame on you.
Posted by evilvolus on April 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM · Report this
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@51 -- I'm pretty sure the Tripathi family is grateful for the attention.
Posted by six shooter on April 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 53
@ 49, the troll feeders will tell you that it's somehow worth it, and on a level greater than their personal petty satisfaction. It won't stand up to scrutiny, but that won't make them turn off unregistered comments.
Posted by Matt from Denver on April 19, 2013 at 9:09 AM · Report this
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"(I'll buy you two beers if you admit you were pretty worried when the pictures came out and those guys didn't look like you expected they would.)"

What, like Borat's younger cousins?
Posted by Underemployed Drone on April 19, 2013 at 9:14 AM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 55
@37
those of use who want smaller government, more efficient use of taxes and less welfare in the USA
But only for you and other christian white men.

For women, and non-christians, and poor people, you want Big Government. Huge Government.

You said it yourself, you want a police state like France (France... not exactly known for being small government, low tax, low welfare) to track every last movement of muslims. And that huge government police state would be paid for by... who? Not you, right? Mr. small government low taxes?

No, I suppose you'd want to use welfare funds to pay for the police-state-for-anyone-brown-andor-nonchristian. And you, of course, would be in charge, right? The white christian male brigade, giving orders to the police state government on who should be tramped down under its heel.

Basically, you want the USA to be a christian version of Iran.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on April 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM · Report this
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@55 I'm an atheist but keep building your strawman. I guess that crow you're eating tastes like sh*t.
Posted by Underemployed Drone on April 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM · Report this
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@54 -- Alright, one beer then.
Posted by six shooter on April 19, 2013 at 9:54 AM · Report this
Knat 58
@30: Thank you for being the one to make that point. I feel like I'm the only one on SLOG that will admit to playing video games, and I grow tired of calling people on their bullshit when they point to that industry and pastime as some sort of collective terrorist training.
Posted by Knat on April 19, 2013 at 12:01 PM · Report this
venomlash 59
@44: They're not actually Chechens.
Posted by venomlash on April 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM · Report this
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@59 Oh please tell us from the safety of your mom's house in Evanston, how I'll you split this hair?
Posted by Underemployed Drone on April 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 61
25,
Irony is what I do best!
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on April 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 62
Knat, dear, I love a good game of Pong! I regularly play both scrabble and a memory game where you match characters from "Bewitched"

I sometimes play the NYT crossword, but I get discouraged. And I tried sudoko, but I just can't understand it. Maybe it's an Occidental thing?
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on April 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM · Report this
venomlash 63
@60: Are you mentally defective? I'm on 55th street near Cottage Grove. Like I said, I'm on the South Side of Chicago.
The suspects are originally from Dagestan, which is NEAR Chechnya. It would be like if you said a New Englander was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Posted by venomlash on April 20, 2013 at 10:07 AM · Report this

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