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Thursday, March 21, 2013

The Globalization of General Intelligence

Posted by on Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:20 AM

WaPo:

A Senate immigration plan would dramatically increase the number of high-skilled foreign workers allowed into the country and give permanent legal status to an unlimited number of students who earn graduate degrees from U.S. universities in science, technology, engineering or math, according to people familiar with the negotiations.

The agreement would be a major victory for the tech industry, which has backed an intense lobbying campaign on Capitol Hill in recent months arguing that Google, Facebook, Microsoft and other companies are having trouble finding qualified workers because of visa limits.

During a lecture at the London School of Economics, the economist Joseph E Stiglitz conducts this thought experiment (you can listen to the lecture, "The Price of Inequality," on a podcast posted here): Imagine a world with corporations that are local and immobile and skilled laborers who are global, free to go to any country that presents an opportunity. The character of nations in such a world would be very different from that of ours. In our world, multinational corporations cheapen local labor at all levels and force states to decrease spending on its citizens and increase spending on creating business climates that can lure or retain corporations. But if skilled labor was multinational, states would actually have to create an ideal climate for citizens—good schools and high wages are what retain and lure skilled labor. This, as I said, is just a thought experiment.

 

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Don't expect DelBene to help. She's all for it. The #1 reason I didn't support her. I asked her point blank, and she refused to back down. Fuck the American skilled worker, it's all about the American billionaire tech companies getting cheap labor. That's DelBeneCorp!

American tech dominance: Fuck the STEM student with insanely high tuition and fees, and then fuck them double when they graduate and all the jobs in their field are taken by H1Bs living ten to a studio and sending the leftover money back home, to be followed by their experience when their visa expires.

Not that anyone gives two shits. Certainly not techno-douchebags like DelBene. She may as well have been named Carly Fiorina for all the shit she gives about American workers.

But you guys voted her in. Good going, numbskulls.
Posted by K on March 21, 2013 at 9:10 AM · Report this
auntie jim 2
we were supposed to vote for arch homophobe Koster? I wanted Marko Liias but he dropped out after he was redistricted into the 2nd, so I supported Steve Hobbs in the primary.
Posted by auntie jim http://www.gaysnohomish.org on March 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM · Report this
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The little problem with the thought experiment is that corporations are not local and immobile - The Senate plan does not envision nationalizing and localizing Google, Facebook, Microsoft etc.

The big corps want to be able to manufacture where unskilled labor is cheap and pollution controls are minimal; and do the creative development where the government is stable and their intellectual property is protected. If they can import cheaper skilled labor then that is frosting on the cake.

By all means cheer on the half-socialist/half-capitalist solutions - you already have a nice model from the thirties and forties in Germany - all you need is a eugenics component and you can have slave labor, imported or homemade. Think about that for a thought experiment.
Posted by mt on March 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM · Report this
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I think it's more like 20 to an apodment. They're just like rats, you know.
Posted by Unbrainwashed on March 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 5
This is more like the globalization of the cost of higher education.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on March 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM · Report this
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As second- or third-generation Indian-American, Ron Hira, so aptly and succinctly puts it:

There are two reasons these firms hire H-1Bs instead of Americans: 1) an H-1B worker can legally be paid less than a U.S. worker in the same occupation and locality; and 2) the H-1B worker learns the job and then rotates back to the home country and takes the work with him. That’s why the H-1B was dubbed the “Outsourcing Visa” by the former Commerce Minister of India, Kamal Nath.

(Quopted from the article below:)

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/02/15/t…

http://www.epi.org/people/ron-hira/

Personally, I've been active as in a volunteer political manner against the offshoring of American jobs, and the importing of foreign visa scab workers, and hedge funds (designed and structured as a pure criminal operation) and private equity/leveraged buyout firms (designed and structured on the model of shakedown/protection rackets for financial debt manipulation and tax evasion) since 1978, (especially with regard to jobs offshoring).

They have now successfully dismantled the former American economy, transforming the consumer-based economy to a fantasy-finance based economy, where approximately 7.8 percent of the work force is valuable and may be employed in the foreseeable future.

The American people failed, the psycho greedheads were successful.

Our predictions, dating back to 1978, and correctly and most accurately forecasting the current state of things, and the dismal future outlook, were exactly on target, and easily predictable.

Back in 2003, they gave the same excuse for offshoring IT jobs to Ghana and Bangladesh and Vietnam.

Nothing further need be said on this matter, only a bloody revolution will ever change anything.

But regardless of mighty proclamations shouted in the movies:

“We are not sheep.” Edward Scissorhands

nothing will change.

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Posted by sgt_doom on March 21, 2013 at 10:37 AM · Report this
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Breaking News.....

Today it was announced that the US government, under federal asset forfeiture laws, confiscated all the HSBC assets in America in response to HSBC's trillions of dollars worth of money laundering for several drug cartels in Mexico and Columba.

Breaking News.....

Today it was announced that the US government, under federal asset forfeiture laws, confiscated all the Barclay assets in America in response to Barclay's previous money laundering on behalf of illegal drug operations.

Breaking News.....

Today it was announced that the US government, under federal asset forfeiture laws, confiscated all the JP Morgan Chase assets in America in response to Barclay's previous money laundering on behalf of illegal drug operations.

Of course, I'm being facetious, as we know the legal system is not two-tier (one level applies to the poorest, while no laws apply to the super-rich) it actually only exists to subjugate the lesser competiton and the real reformers of a completely fraud-based and corrupt society.

Therefore, asset forfeiture laws are ONLY applied to the smallest of competitors and individuals, not to everyone, as it should so legally be applied!

Again and again, we hear and read fraudulent and completely dishonest proclamations by faux newsies falsely claiming that "it's not against the law" while they refuse to ever state the statutes or case law it supposedly it isn't against, when in point of fact 99% of the time the newsies are lying out their skankholes and it is indeed against the law.

And does ANYONE in America remember who Convict 9653 was?????????

Of course not......

'Nuff said....
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Posted by sgt_doom on March 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM · Report this
keshmeshi 8
@3,

The thought experiment also fails because you don't have to raise the standards particularly high to attract workers from China and India. All you really need are relatively clean skies and streets and non-slum living conditions that don't cost several times the average income.
Posted by keshmeshi on March 21, 2013 at 11:05 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 9
Why are we doing this as H1-B or other forms?

If we want them, make them citizens.

Period.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on March 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM · Report this

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