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Guns Alaska Passes "Stand Your Ground" Bill
Posted by Charles Mudede on Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Anchorage Daily News reports:
Alaska's latest "stand your ground" bill has passed the House of Representatives.The only problem with passing this bill in Alaska is that there just aren't that many black youth to kill in that state. Maybe you can stand your ground against black bears or somethingHB24, by Rep. Mark Neuman, would remove certain criteria that people must meet before they have a right to use deadly force as a means of self-defense.
Today, Alaskans are allowed to take lethal action if they reasonably believe it is necessary to save their life or protect themselves against certain violent crimes. However, a person isn't allowed to use such force if they know they can avoid it by leaving the area - unless they are in their home, workplace or protecting a member of that person's household.
Carole M. Triem provided the tip.
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there is also a large Indonesian population that works the canneries on a seasonal basis. You know some might be Muslims or communists......
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i sure hope "their home" extends to the edges of their property. as in, they can execute trespassers (AKA people who knock on the door) if they "reasonably believe" they are threatened.
like, by an exchange student look for a halloween party or something.
like, by an exchange student look for a halloween party or something.
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Chuck,
Keep in mind. Most black youth who get shot, get shot by other black youth. Fix your own house first.
Keep in mind. Most black youth who get shot, get shot by other black youth. Fix your own house first.
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There doesn't need to be a law to kill black youth. They do it quite well to each other voluntarily. Now, if they'd just stop replacing themselves...
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@13 -- Nice job registering!
You know we're not talking about being able to kill anyone, right? We're talking about being able to kill someone and not go to jail for it.
You know we're not talking about being able to kill anyone, right? We're talking about being able to kill someone and not go to jail for it.
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I read the stranger therefore I am a victim: then stop reading the Stranger. You are not a victim, you're an angry white guy with way too much time on his hands.
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Does anyone realize that Washington State's self-defense statutes are identical to stand your ground laws?
You do not have to retreat in this state, but you do have to allow them to leave if they stop their attack. If one reasonably believes that another poses an imminent and immediate physical threat likely to result in grievous bodily harm or death, then, you are indeed allowed to use deadly force.
And who the fuck would disagree with that? What should a person do if someone is going to do great physical harm or kill them? Reason with them? Run? What if you cannot outrun the attacker? And if you do run, then you just turned your back on a determined attacker, and left yourself vulnerable. It is ludicrous to think we need a law to defend ourselves. The natural order of things dictates that we all have a birthright to live without being harmed, and if that means using deadly force, then that is what must happen. Nobody in a position of self-defense wants to kill anyone. But surely, it is better to defend yourself than to be killed.
You do not have to retreat in this state, but you do have to allow them to leave if they stop their attack. If one reasonably believes that another poses an imminent and immediate physical threat likely to result in grievous bodily harm or death, then, you are indeed allowed to use deadly force.
And who the fuck would disagree with that? What should a person do if someone is going to do great physical harm or kill them? Reason with them? Run? What if you cannot outrun the attacker? And if you do run, then you just turned your back on a determined attacker, and left yourself vulnerable. It is ludicrous to think we need a law to defend ourselves. The natural order of things dictates that we all have a birthright to live without being harmed, and if that means using deadly force, then that is what must happen. Nobody in a position of self-defense wants to kill anyone. But surely, it is better to defend yourself than to be killed.
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@17 -- I'm all for killing the guy that's trying to kill me. I'm also all for the state discouraging this event from happening.
When a state passes a law entitled Stand Your Ground, they are encouraging armed conflict.
Note the positive verb. Note the subject. Note the three monosyllabic word title.
Please don't send me to jail for defending myself. But also please practically dare a bad guy (dark skin) to act threatening near me so I (white guy with a gun) can shoot the motherfuck.
When a state passes a law entitled Stand Your Ground, they are encouraging armed conflict.
Note the positive verb. Note the subject. Note the three monosyllabic word title.
Please don't send me to jail for defending myself. But also please practically dare a bad guy (dark skin) to act threatening near me so I (white guy with a gun) can shoot the motherfuck.
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Chuck Mud = embodiment of black racism...
I didn't know we had a Black Panthers franchise here in Seatown. Learn something every day here on the Slog.
I didn't know we had a Black Panthers franchise here in Seatown. Learn something every day here on the Slog.
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I wonder if anyone has studied the effects of similar laws passed in other states?
Results indicate the laws do not deter burglary, robbery, or aggravated assault. In contrast, they lead to a statistically significant 8 percent net increase in the number of reported murders and non-negligent manslaughters.
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"a person isn't allowed to use such force if they know they can avoid it by leaving the area - unless they are in their home, workplace or protecting a member of that person's household. "
Doesn't sound like Stand Your Ground to me.
Doesn't sound like Stand Your Ground to me.
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yes chuck.
most black kids are shot by other black kids.
that is, the ones who escaped being killed by their mommas before they could be born.....
yes chuck.
most black kids are shot by other black kids.
that is, the ones who escaped being killed by their mommas before they could be born.....
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Yeah, I'm a little confused- what you've quoted sounds like a normal self-defense law. It says it's the law "today," so I assume it's the pre-"stand your ground" law. I think of a "stand your ground" law as allowing you to use lethal force instead of leaving the area, and maybe also extended its use to non-violent crimes.
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@27
I think they added on the "- unless they are in their home, workplace or protecting a member of that person's household. "
I think they added on the "- unless they are in their home, workplace or protecting a member of that person's household. "
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