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Wednesday, March 20, 2013

The Republican Party Is Inclusive. Except for You. And You. And That Guy Over There.

Posted by on Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Politico says:

Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus on Wednesday reiterated that the Republican Party believes marriage is between a man and a woman, even as he called for greater tolerance in the GOP.

“I know what our principles are, I know our party believes marriage is between one man and one woman,” Priebus told MSNBC’s Luke Russert. “But I also know our party’s going to be inclusive, and it’s going to listen to people and it’s going to allow for differences in our party.”

So they're inclusive unless you're for gay marriage, in which case you're fighting against the principles and beliefs of the party. One of two things is happening here. Either Priebus doesn't understand what "inclusive" means, or he doesn't think people who support gay marriage are real people.


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Will in Seattle 1
It's like they don't get that it's not the 19th Century anymore.
Posted by Will in Seattle on March 20, 2013 at 2:41 PM · Report this
How can you see a poll saying 58% of Americans support gay marriage and say "OK, our party will include the 42% of people that don't! Now to win some elections!"
Posted by algorhythm99 on March 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 3
This position is untenable. It's sooooo good to see the GOP caught between a rock and a hard place.
Posted by Matt from Denver on March 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM · Report this
GeneStoner 5
Paul, you must be pointing to the weird people in your office or something (you, you, and you).

Because that sure-as-shit ain't what is happening everywhere else.

The talk of the "big GOP tent" is the zeitgeist...
Posted by GeneStoner on March 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM · Report this
Original Andrew 6
Why would the GOP bother with appealing to groups that they plan on exterminating?
Posted by Original Andrew on March 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 7
Log Cabin posers.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on March 20, 2013 at 2:59 PM · Report this
@6 What are you talking about? They get people to vote against their own interests all the time. If there was truth in politics, they would have to rename their party the Deceptive Propaganda Party.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on March 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM · Report this
The GOP must be terrified, they're paying all sorts of people to post on Slog.
Posted by Hanoumatoi on March 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM · Report this
r.chops 10
His definition of inclusive simply means "get their votes."
Listening means "long enough to get their votes."
Allow for differences means "right up until we are elected."
Posted by r.chops on March 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM · Report this
fletc3her 11
The point isn't to be inclusive, but to be "inclusive". The latter can be accomplished with a simple phone call to Fox News.
Posted by fletc3her on March 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM · Report this
Fnarf 12
It's going to be fascinating to watch when the GOP finally accepts gay marriage. Because there will always be that hard-shell core of opposition, which might be as big as 1/3 of the electorate. I guess it'll have to be smaller than that -- 24%, or one vote less than half of half -- before they do change. but 24% is still a lot of people. Watching them lose their shit as they realize their party is gone is going to be HIGH-larious. Split off? Dems get in. Suck it up, and go along with the sinners? Still probably going to lose. WHAT'S A BIGOT TO DO?

Eh, Gene? What's your plan, then? Blow your brains out, or what? Just be sure and do it in the shower, or out in the desert, for easy cleanup.
Posted by Fnarf on March 20, 2013 at 3:33 PM · Report this
Don't think that the money behind the GOP doesn't understand this. Party strategists obviously thought that with same-sex marriage they'd hit upon another issue, like abortion, that would convince working-class evangelicals to vote against their own economic interests. Clearly public opinion has shifted more quickly on this issue than conservatives predicted.

But don't count on them giving up -- it's possible that, again as with abortion, the empty promise of rolling back these societal changes will prove an even more powerful incentive than attempts to keep it illegal in the first place did. Evangelicals may well be convinced to spend the next 30 years trying to get back to the time before legal same-sex marriage in the same way they've spent the last 30 years trying to roll back abortion rights.

Or the GOP could place its bets on the tea-party/faux-libertarian branch of the party, call it a "states-rights issue" and go back to their real core platform, dismantling the federal regulatory structure and cutting taxes for the rich down to nothing.
Posted by Proteus on March 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 14
5, zeitgeist =/= hot air.

Team Rape's bigotry goes beyond gay marriage. The AR senate, completely along party lines, just voted to pass the voter ID law, which demands that every voter must purchase an ID card. This is in essence a poll tax, and it's a very basic voter-suppression tactic. Aimed at, of course, minority groups.

Team Rape hasn't stopped these tactics, and no matter how much they scream "inclusion," they're simply not interested. Along w/ gerry-mandering and propaganda, it's the only way they'll continue to win elections. Not only have they not grown up into the 21st C, they refuse to.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on March 20, 2013 at 4:05 PM · Report this
I want to rejoice listening to Priebus's bullshit this week, but I can't shake the feeling that the GOP knows pretty darn well how to forge coalitions willing to vote against their interests. I think they'll do exactly what they're planning on doing, and I think there's a decent chance (demographics not withstanding) that it'll work, at least a few more times. They can't reelect Bush, but they'll find somebody just as bad, and it'll be a nightmare. This is not the time to gloat. This is the time to donate, phone bank, stay active politically. The right-wing keeps going to church between elections. We have to keep our coalitions engaged, too.
Posted by wxPDX on March 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM · Report this
Dr_Awesome 16
So 'GeneStoner's posts dont make sense to others, too? Check, just another angry and mostly incoherent wingnut.
Posted by Dr_Awesome on March 20, 2013 at 5:07 PM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 17
Iys all about the money. The GOP thinks there's still something to milk out of their core audience by taking a hardline on this issue. When the top campaign donors have their own kids coming out to them, then we'll see the GOP change course.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on March 20, 2013 at 7:24 PM · Report this
@15 "The right-wing keeps going to church between elections."

One of the wingitty-doo-dahs kvetched something in the comments the other day about liberals invading churches. I suppose he was upset to realize that there are people who hold spiritual and ethical values which are more aligned with Christ's own inclusive message of equality and brotherly love than with the nonsense spewed by the fuckwits leading some of the so-called conservative churches.

The thing that got a lot of early Christians tossed to the lions wasn't the thing that a lot of "conservatives" practice today. Quite the opposite.

Bring your beliefs in Equality, Community, Integrity and Peace to a liberal church near you. Some of them are fighting the good fight, have good people, and deserve support. These are deeply religious principles, whether or not you care to associate them with some anthropomorphic diety. The problem is, those right-wing, social-conservative "Christians" have made such a mockery of what should have been a fulfilling spiritual quest, that many of the rest of us have just discarded any notion of religion, and it's the liberal churches which have borne the brunt of that loss. Religion itself doesn't have to suck, and the religious influence in modern life doesn't have to be socially backwards, sexophobic and exclusionary.
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on March 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM · Report this
The title says it all. And it's not just for gay folk either.
Posted by gman5541 on March 20, 2013 at 11:23 PM · Report this
GeneStoner 20
@16 Dr Awful,
Its funny I feel the same way reading through the dribble from you Commies. It’s like we are writing in different languages. Ching-chang, ping tang wang (pigeon for- WTF U Say?)

BTW y'all. Let’s try a little more concinnity. These long winded rants of yours are mostly just words without real meaning.
Posted by GeneStoner on March 20, 2013 at 11:54 PM · Report this
Martin H. Duke 21
Fnarf @12,

I don't think it'll be quite as delicious as you imagine. After all, the GOP accepted desegregation many decades ago, but still finds ways to appeal to racists. They're certainly not going off and forming their own successful splinter movement.

I imagine they'll figure out ways to send dog whistles to anti-gay bigots, not quite obvious enough for people who don't want to vote for an overtly bigoted party, but also don't vote based on civil rights issues.
Posted by Martin H. Duke on March 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM · Report this
venomlash 22
@20: I see your "ching chong Chinaman" act is on par with your Stepin Fetchit impression. Where do you learn these racist caricatures so well?
Posted by venomlash on March 21, 2013 at 7:47 AM · Report this
Daddy Love 23
Why can't both be true?
Posted by Daddy Love on March 21, 2013 at 8:24 AM · Report this
GeneStoner 24
Venomlast honey, I'm just trying to be "diverse" in my communication techniques.

I can't help it if you don't understand, but I'll type slower for you, MMMkay?
Posted by GeneStoner on March 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM · Report this
Pridge Wessea 25
@24 - He understands. And no you're not.
Posted by Pridge Wessea on March 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM · Report this
venomlash 26
@24: Go ahead and type slower. I'm intrigued by this possibility. In fact, if you could type so slowly that it took you a whole day to post, we'd all appreciate it.
Posted by venomlash on March 22, 2013 at 9:14 AM · Report this

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