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News & ArtsTuesday, March 19, 2013
Chow This Is Actually Worse Than Pigeons Roosting on Open Vats of Tofu*
Posted by Bethany Jean Clement on Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM
With profoundest apologies and the biggest NSFS** warning ever, here is something really, truly gross***.
* Remember them? HOW WILL WE EVER FORGET???
** Not Safe for the Squeamish
*** It is interesting (GAHHHH!!!), however, that the Thai family who found the thing in the thing (EEEEEEEEWWWW!!!) made a shrine for it and have managed to construe the whole thing as "lucky." We should all (SCREEEEEAAAAM!!!) have such fortitude.
Thanks a lot to Our Man in Bangkok.
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This is much worse. I posted it once before, but it gave me a nightmare last night, so I figure everyone would want to see it.*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJeyxKWI_…
* Don't worry, it's "Certified Humane".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJeyxKWI_…
* Don't worry, it's "Certified Humane".
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In college I had an internship auditing manufacturing plants. I missed the one where we audited a sausage factory, but was there when everyone came back to the office. The group was dead quiet, and nobody wanted to talk about their trip other than to say they will never eat sausage again.
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I'm quite impressed that the woman turned this around and showed reverence to the cat; even without the lottery win, it's an interesting perspective.
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It's unsettlingly gross, somehow involves a cat, is worse than seeing how sausage is made, and is food-related. Check, not clicking the link.
But- sanitized capsule summary, please? All I can discern, right or wrong, is that someone found the remains of a housecat in some sort of processed foodstuff, and saved it.
Not sure how the lottery figures in though...
But- sanitized capsule summary, please? All I can discern, right or wrong, is that someone found the remains of a housecat in some sort of processed foodstuff, and saved it.
Not sure how the lottery figures in though...
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I'm not looking. After your paper showed that poor bird with broken wing, I refuse to look at this shit voluntarily.
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@8 A woman in Thailand found a mummified kitten inside a giant sausage and then she won the lottery. I didn't think it was as awful as this post would suggest.
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@8 Here's the first sentence for you:
"A woman who found the body of a young kitten inside a sausage she was eating made a small shrine for it in her home and neighbours later came to worship it - after which some won money on the lottery."
"A woman who found the body of a young kitten inside a sausage she was eating made a small shrine for it in her home and neighbours later came to worship it - after which some won money on the lottery."
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Definitely ew.
@4: There's nothing particularly bad about that video. Two things shocked me a bit: how fast the blood drained from the animal and how big its stomachs were. But it died quickly and cleanly, scared only for a few seconds before the bolt and the knife ended it.
I believe anyone who eats beef should watch footage of that nature, to understand that when they consume flesh, it was once a living being. Carnivory is taken too lightly in our society.
@4: There's nothing particularly bad about that video. Two things shocked me a bit: how fast the blood drained from the animal and how big its stomachs were. But it died quickly and cleanly, scared only for a few seconds before the bolt and the knife ended it.
I believe anyone who eats beef should watch footage of that nature, to understand that when they consume flesh, it was once a living being. Carnivory is taken too lightly in our society.
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@Venomlash/Raku: Agreed. If you choose to eat an animal, you should remain conscious of that creature's life and your connection to it. Americans would like to pretend meat is conjured magically and aseptically in supermarket packages. This is ignorant. Vegan hyperbole conflating all slaughter to Auschwitz is also ignorant. Eating meat rarely and in ecologically sustainable ways is what I owe the planet. A relatively kind life and a quick death is what I owe the animal.
And honestly, if this is the sort of thing you shit yourself over, I'd hate for you to see how animals kill each other in the wild. Do you think being chased down for days, hamstrung, and eaten by a pack of wolves is any less terrifying for a bison? Personally, I'd take the bolt gun.
And honestly, if this is the sort of thing you shit yourself over, I'd hate for you to see how animals kill each other in the wild. Do you think being chased down for days, hamstrung, and eaten by a pack of wolves is any less terrifying for a bison? Personally, I'd take the bolt gun.
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@ 14, I said the same thing. But @ 4 just thinks that ANY animal death is bad.
@ 4, if I found video footage of a wolfpack attacking a cow, and posted it here, would you watch that?
@ 4, if I found video footage of a wolfpack attacking a cow, and posted it here, would you watch that?
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#15: The option isn't bolting a terrified animal and cutting its throat so it bleeds to death while it's seizing on the ground vs. a lion eating an antelope. The option is bolting a terrified animal and cutting its throat so it bleeds to death while it's seizing on the ground vs. ordering the veggie burger.
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@17 - The option isn't between not ordering a burger and a cow living a happy and free life, retiring to watch its kids grow old and dying surrounded by its bovine loved ones. That cow, ALL cows, would not exist if not for humans. And surprise! - death is super inescapable. Humans are animals, they eat each other and are full of blood and shit when they die. You can try to excise yourself from that system as much as you'd like if it makes you feel better, but don't act like it's fucking unnatural.
Unless you grow or dive your own food, you don't really have a place to talk. All the nitrogen from fertilizers used to grow the soybeans in your veggieburger spills out into the ocean.
Unless you grow or dive your own food, you don't really have a place to talk. All the nitrogen from fertilizers used to grow the soybeans in your veggieburger spills out into the ocean.
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18: Did you really just try to justify murder and never trying to be a better human being? Are you libertarian?
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@ Raku: Oh really? Then kindly Shut The Fuck Up until you're no longer part of the problem of human habitation on this planet. I believe Seattle Tilth still offers classes on sustainable agriculture, take a few. Hook up with a dumpster-diving network, build some raised beds, don't have kids, don't drive a car, and then come and talk to me about how I'm a murderer.
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24: Oh snap!! I just got served!! Until I start dumpster diving for all my food, I guess I might as well just frack baby panda orphanages and throw lit cigarettes into children's faces because I'm part of the problem anyway. :-(
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@ Raku: No, but producing your own food sure would make you less of a hypocrite if you actually care so much about your impact on non-human animals. Oh and hit me up if you want any advice on all the composting and gardening you should be doing. For instance: if you have a lot of dead leaves, human urine is an excellent source of nitrogen for a hot pile. Not too often though - urine has a lot of salt which may scare your worms off.
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@ raku, you didn't answer my question. Did I really spank you that hard the other day?
Can you live without killing? I'm including ALL forms of life here when I ask that.
Can you live without killing? I'm including ALL forms of life here when I ask that.
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27: You're asking if I can live without killing? No, my computer is full of cow glue and I just stepped on an amoeba. The point is to be a thoughtful person when you have easy choices. Going to Plum instead of Quinn's or ordering a bean burrito instead of a beef burrito? Easy. Ensuring no rabbits were run over when my coffee beans were trucked here? Haaard. Zoltronmaster Warm is right that you have to eat raindrops and dumpster dive for rotting melons to have a minimal impact, but that takes much more commitment than just learning how to cook collards with vinegar and smoke flavor even though grandma used pork bones.
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Oh, I just reread your comment and you're asking about poor plant suffering. Pretend I just ignored you pls if you can't tell the difference between an apple and a cat and a horse.
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But why is it thoughtless to eat meat?
The question that you never answer is why that is wrong. You use loaded language but never demonstrate why you think it's fair.
What makes an animal less worthy of death and consumption than a plant?
Are you willing to actually prove that you're a thoughtful person? Can you elevate things for just a minute and do that?
The question that you never answer is why that is wrong. You use loaded language but never demonstrate why you think it's fair.
What makes an animal less worthy of death and consumption than a plant?
Are you willing to actually prove that you're a thoughtful person? Can you elevate things for just a minute and do that?
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30, it takes 9 lbs of plants to make 1 lb of meat, so I'm really just concerned about minimizing plant suffering.
I'll answer your question further if you post a video of you punching a dog to death to show it's an honest moral question you're facing that you can't tell the difference between that and stepping on grass.
I'll answer your question further if you post a video of you punching a dog to death to show it's an honest moral question you're facing that you can't tell the difference between that and stepping on grass.
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@ 31, mostly I'm just trying to find out if you have reason behind your beliefs. As opposed to feelings, which are great but don't always lead to the right results. Stalin felt pretty strongly about what he did, after all.
You spend a lot of time here. To what purpose? I think you would like it if we were all vegan. Do you believe your posts are accomplishing anything toward that end? If converting people to veganism isn't your goal, then why do you do it?
You spend a lot of time here. To what purpose? I think you would like it if we were all vegan. Do you believe your posts are accomplishing anything toward that end? If converting people to veganism isn't your goal, then why do you do it?
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@raku, that was a great video. Thanks. I always like to see that the animals I eat go down quickly and cleanly.
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33: I'm trying to get people to think about using animals when making decisions throughout life. I was honest in my first comment that the video gave me a nightmare; animal slaughter truly disturbs me. If my dumb comments get people to think about ordering the veggie burger or buying the vegetarian chili can, great. I know I don't have all the answers to morality, but I know my annoying personality is at least making people think about how they use animals at least a tiny bit.
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@ Raku: If your goal is honestly to engage people in dialogue about food ethics, holier-than-thou trolling probably isn't the most effective way to do it. When I was young, I thought listening to punk rock and arguing with Republicans would change the world too.
Sorry kid, you can't change shit. You can't change the global patterns of consumption that doom us. You can't even change local patterns of consumption. All you can do is change yourself. Which starts with thinking about how and where you get your food, and how to move that closer to where you live. Which is better for all the animals on this planet, human or otherwise.
Sorry kid, you can't change shit. You can't change the global patterns of consumption that doom us. You can't even change local patterns of consumption. All you can do is change yourself. Which starts with thinking about how and where you get your food, and how to move that closer to where you live. Which is better for all the animals on this planet, human or otherwise.
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Raku@36: "I know my annoying personality is at least making people think about how they use animals at least a tiny bit."
Either you're like 16, and just getting that first rush that comes from feeling superior to people and telling them what to do- in which case, go back to the lunchroom young lady and let the grownups have their conversation. Or you're a True Believer who in five years will be knocking on my door, inviting me to attend your "awesome" Mars Hill Easter Service.
Either you're like 16, and just getting that first rush that comes from feeling superior to people and telling them what to do- in which case, go back to the lunchroom young lady and let the grownups have their conversation. Or you're a True Believer who in five years will be knocking on my door, inviting me to attend your "awesome" Mars Hill Easter Service.
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@28/Raku:
So you use objects that contain animal products (computer, clothing, building materials, everything) and then tell others that they should not eat animals?
Good to see you are so committed to your veganism that the extent of it is telling people what to do to feel superior, but not actually refraining from using animal products in your life. Animal's lives are worth avoiding meat, but not worth goofing off on the internet I guess.
You are not a vegan (no one really is), you are just a sanctimonious asshole who gets off on feeling superior to everyone else for arbitrary reasons. Either that or you are about 14, which is what your "voice" sounds like in your writing here. Hyperbolic and extremely hypocritical.
So you use objects that contain animal products (computer, clothing, building materials, everything) and then tell others that they should not eat animals?
Good to see you are so committed to your veganism that the extent of it is telling people what to do to feel superior, but not actually refraining from using animal products in your life. Animal's lives are worth avoiding meat, but not worth goofing off on the internet I guess.
You are not a vegan (no one really is), you are just a sanctimonious asshole who gets off on feeling superior to everyone else for arbitrary reasons. Either that or you are about 14, which is what your "voice" sounds like in your writing here. Hyperbolic and extremely hypocritical.
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One thing I find interesting is that vegetarians and vegans try to simulate meat textures and tastes in their foods. We are omnivorous by nature. Eating meat is what allowed our species to evolve our brains from those of other primates. We are part of the food chain. There's nothing morally wrong with eating meat.
I don't care what others eat. If it makes you feel better about yourself to be a vegan, more power to you. That you feel the need to proselytize like a Westboro Baptist and push your beliefs onto everyone else is what puts people off.
I don't care what others eat. If it makes you feel better about yourself to be a vegan, more power to you. That you feel the need to proselytize like a Westboro Baptist and push your beliefs onto everyone else is what puts people off.
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@36: If that gave you nightmares, I'm really questioning your psychological fortitude. You are filled with blood and viscera yourself, as are we all.
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