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Guns Gun-Crazy Alaska: Man in Wheelchair Shoots Store Assistant
Posted by Charles Mudede on Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:44 AM
As Midtown Walmart assistant manager Jason Mahi remained in critical but stable condition Monday in Anchorage, interviews and court records revealed new information about the man who shot him.The dog's name is Wookie.Double amputee Daniel Pirtle, 45, told police he shot Mahi after an argument over Pirtle's unleashed dog, according to the charges against him. Police arrested Pirtle minutes later as he tried to leave the store on a motorize scooter. He was carrying two pistols, the charges say.
I have to bring this up: Even here in Seattle, the business of walking unleashed dogs is very popular. Let's get to the root of this very unsocial, very uncool behavior. Why do so many dog owners in our city break the law and do not leash their dogs while in public? Is it because they think everyone loves their so lovable pet? I believe it's even deeper and darker than that. What they are saying to us is they have complete control of their animal. There is no need for a physical leash because the bond between them and their animal is even stronger. This is what they are trying to display in public; their complete mastery of their animal. They are the real Beastmaster.
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My dog likes to poop, but he doesn't like to poop while on his leash. I pick up his poop in baggies.
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When I was in school, I knew a girl who had a black lab that she brought to class without a leash. This was despite the fact that the dog liked to attack men with briefcases. When I asked her why she did this, she said dogs should have the right to be free, to run around at will. Needless to say, she was sued by not one but three people and she lost her dog.
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This, Mr. Muede, is why you are a troll. You take a situation, warp it into the absolutely worst possible interpretation (usually with a Marxist twist) and then proclaim it to be the one true interpretation - one that is based on a completely unsupported conjecture on the motivations of others.
Most folks don't understand their own motivations, but Mr. Mudede, the magic Marxist, understands the motivations of others - no matter how much they deny it.
Troll.
Most folks don't understand their own motivations, but Mr. Mudede, the magic Marxist, understands the motivations of others - no matter how much they deny it.
Troll.
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another law-abiding gun owner. until they weren't, and all it took were emotions, not a theoretical physical threat.
TWO pistols, too!
TWO pistols, too!
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Marc Singer for the win. Odo & Podo!
The Beastmaster was really a irresponsible pet owner!
I also share a deep annoyance for people that don't leash their dog. I know people who are severely allergic to dogs, and would not like to have one licking them, running up to them etc.
But the worse is when the dog I am walking (who is NOT friendly) is leashed, and then some other random dog comes running up to my little psycho, thus provoking him. Fun times!
The Beastmaster was really a irresponsible pet owner!
I also share a deep annoyance for people that don't leash their dog. I know people who are severely allergic to dogs, and would not like to have one licking them, running up to them etc.
But the worse is when the dog I am walking (who is NOT friendly) is leashed, and then some other random dog comes running up to my little psycho, thus provoking him. Fun times!
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Nah it's just a logical 'composition' fallacy. "I like my dog therefore everyone likes dogs." There's your answer fishbulb.
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Relative to parts of Europe and most of Vietnam (places I've been recently), I would say the US has an incredibly minor off leash dog situation. Funny story about an off leash dog in Avignon, France. It was pouring rain and this golden retriever looking dog runs by me on the side walk, squats, and releases the foulest smelling yellow diarrhea on to a puddle. So it spread over the sidewalk and the odor was so strong that I could smell it over a block away. If dog owners can just make sure I never have to see shit like that again, I'll be happy.
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Why do so many dog owners in our city break the law and do not leash their dogs while in public
I assume by "in public" you mean "in the parks"?
If so, the answer is simple - most dogs need to run, or they become neurotic and make a nuisance of themselves, for example, by barking nonstop at anything and everything that goes by their house. It's hard for a dog to get the exercise it needs without being off leash.
Note that parks in cities like Vancouver and San Francisco accommodate dogs by designating certain times of day as off-leash hours. All you dog-hating subhumans (because no one truly human hates dogs) can go fuck yourselves during those hours.
I assume by "in public" you mean "in the parks"?
If so, the answer is simple - most dogs need to run, or they become neurotic and make a nuisance of themselves, for example, by barking nonstop at anything and everything that goes by their house. It's hard for a dog to get the exercise it needs without being off leash.
Note that parks in cities like Vancouver and San Francisco accommodate dogs by designating certain times of day as off-leash hours. All you dog-hating subhumans (because no one truly human hates dogs) can go fuck yourselves during those hours.
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I don't hate dogs at all, but I have noticed people walking their dogs in the middle of the city without a leash. I worry that they will get hit by a car and I also worry that I will get attacked. I don't know the dog and the dog doesn't know me. I don't know how that makes me subhuman.
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sheesh charles, if you want to talk about dogs, talk about dogs. no need to try and link it to an alaskan wal-mart shooting article.
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Hahahhaha, the convo is about the dog, not the guns and the shooting. Surely there was someone who could have returned fire to defend the employee. One guy in a chair got the drop on a WalMart full of Alaskan gun owners??? That don't seem right...see what hits a trolled spinner bait...;-D
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@9 can I shoot a dog if it approaches me and I feel threatened? Would it be cool if I just point my gun at the dog and announce I'll shoot if it comes any closer, so that the owner runs over to get it the fuck away from me? I'll happily admit to being subhuman if it gives me that privilege.
Note that this wouldn't apply if it was clearly "dog hour" at the park.
Note that this wouldn't apply if it was clearly "dog hour" at the park.
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point 1: a guy packing two pistols shoots a store manager. sickening, senseless.
point 2: sounds like the guy was inside a store w/an unleashed dog. stupid stupid stupid. Really? shoot someone who asks you to not bring your unleashed dog into a store? There is more to this little scenario.
the shooter and dog should also be charged with very very bad manners.
point 2: sounds like the guy was inside a store w/an unleashed dog. stupid stupid stupid. Really? shoot someone who asks you to not bring your unleashed dog into a store? There is more to this little scenario.
the shooter and dog should also be charged with very very bad manners.
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I don't think people walk around with an unleashed dog for as deliberate a reason as you say. I think they do it because they are completely thoughtless. They're walking around in a fog, and leashing their dog has simply never occurred to them, just as using their turn signal or not blocking the whole escalator has never occurred to them.
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I like it when dog owners think my legs can magically walk through a leash or that I can super hop over it.
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What Fnarf @17 said.
Most people, dog owners or not, are oblivious to the world around them.
Also what fishbulb said @7. Most people believe everyone feels the same way they do. They can't fathom that some people don't like dogs, or cats, or whatever.
Most people, dog owners or not, are oblivious to the world around them.
Also what fishbulb said @7. Most people believe everyone feels the same way they do. They can't fathom that some people don't like dogs, or cats, or whatever.
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I almost ran over a dog on my bike the other day. I was unleashed and tried to bite my wheels. The owner apparently knew this happens, yet took her dog to a park where people ride bikes and took the leash off. It certainly scared the shit out of me.
I disagree with Mudede's stupid bullshit. I'm pretty sure people unleash their dogs because an unleashed dog is a happier dog, and happier dogs are better dogs.
I disagree with Mudede's stupid bullshit. I'm pretty sure people unleash their dogs because an unleashed dog is a happier dog, and happier dogs are better dogs.
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Despite Paul Constant's wise words to the right
"Paul Constant @paulconstant
A lot of people I follow have been fighting with idiot trolls lately. Troll-feeding doesn't help. There's a block button for a reason."
I'm going to feed the troll that posted this anyway.
Charles,
Go fuck yourself. I walk my dog off the leash because he gets a far happier life and better exercise out of it since I can't run as fast as he wants to. He has no interest in other people so he stays away from them and he's terrified of the road so he won't cross until I tell him to. This isn't me showing off my beastmaster skills you pompous shit. I can't imagine why they still let you spew your garbage on The Stranger. BTW, have you told your neighbor yet that you watched someone steal their TV and didn't call the cops you fucking self centered sack of shit?
As for the original article. I wouldn't even bring my dog into Walmart leashed, much less unleashed. Anyone who brings an unleashed dog into Walmart deserves to get thrown out of the store. Anyone who threatens to shoot, much less actually shoots, someone for pointing out that they can't have an unleashed dog in Walmart should be thrown in jail for a long time and lose their right to ever own a gun again.
"Paul Constant @paulconstant
A lot of people I follow have been fighting with idiot trolls lately. Troll-feeding doesn't help. There's a block button for a reason."
I'm going to feed the troll that posted this anyway.
Charles,
Go fuck yourself. I walk my dog off the leash because he gets a far happier life and better exercise out of it since I can't run as fast as he wants to. He has no interest in other people so he stays away from them and he's terrified of the road so he won't cross until I tell him to. This isn't me showing off my beastmaster skills you pompous shit. I can't imagine why they still let you spew your garbage on The Stranger. BTW, have you told your neighbor yet that you watched someone steal their TV and didn't call the cops you fucking self centered sack of shit?
As for the original article. I wouldn't even bring my dog into Walmart leashed, much less unleashed. Anyone who brings an unleashed dog into Walmart deserves to get thrown out of the store. Anyone who threatens to shoot, much less actually shoots, someone for pointing out that they can't have an unleashed dog in Walmart should be thrown in jail for a long time and lose their right to ever own a gun again.
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This is a great day for the handicapped. We should all be grateful for Oscar Pistorius breaking down the last barriers.
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Why are people talking about the dog? Who gives a shit about the dog? A man shot a Walmart employee after an argument in an open carry/no concealed weapon permit required State. Whether it was a dog or any other thing that started the argument doesn't matter. What does matter is that a former "law abiding citizen" got pissed off and used a completely unregulated weapon to harm another human being.
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this gun-totin' yahoo is going to give the fine People of Walmart a bad name. Just imagine the website that could arise...
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@24, that's the price of freedom. If bullets aren't flying around you all the time -- including your own -- that's proof positive that you live in a police state. In Freedomworld, everyone has a gun and uses it constantly. That's why God made us in his image, with trigger fingers. Why, God himself shoots pussies like you for breakfast up there in Heaven.
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As someone wise once told me:
It may be your snuggle bear, your snookums, your buddy, but to most everyone else, it's still a 70 pound carnivore.
It may be your snuggle bear, your snookums, your buddy, but to most everyone else, it's still a 70 pound carnivore.
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@13: How many different troll accounts do you have now? Damn dude, you really need to get a life, and stop thinking about buttsex constantly.
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Man, once I was at the nudie swimming beach/park -- it's a legit Seattle park, with a no dogs sign. The park is little more than a postage stamp, and full of naked people. Yet one woman brought her bounding labrador+?? mix dog & let him off leash. He proceeded to run into the water, run over to people and shake off, then try to steal their food, ..several times. And the woman simply reprimanded him lightly, doing nothing else. After a long :45 minutes and many more incidents, she was finally shamed to leave. Talk about a lack of courtesy, and a gross of stupidity.
o_O
o_O
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Update: while out walking my dog in the forest this morning I ran across a woman with an off-leash dog. The area is technically 'on-leash' but there's like this weird militant housewife anti-leash resistance movement going on. Anyway they always look at my happy-go-lucky on-leash lab and ask "Is he friendly!?!" WTF lady, your dog is the one off leash. Is HE friendly? So today yeah, "Is he friendly?", yes, sniff sniff, ok time to go, well hello there new dog friend that is happily following us away while its owner is frantically calling it. Stop. Lure dog back to owner. Rewind audiobook a couple minutes due to lost attention. People...
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Some dogs are just better behaved off the leash, Charles. It's easier to have a happy dog who's trotting along side you, not trying to fight his leash the whole time.
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I do think there are some owners fitting this description; whose refusal to use a leash is parading their mastery of their animal.
But I think there are probably MORE who are very much in love with their dog, and feel great respect for its canine self discipline. The feeling is mutual. They don't want to leash their well behaved dog anymore than parents want to leash their kids. *If* the dog is truly as well behaved as the owner thinks it is, then why not allow them to continue their little blissful path.
But I think there are probably MORE who are very much in love with their dog, and feel great respect for its canine self discipline. The feeling is mutual. They don't want to leash their well behaved dog anymore than parents want to leash their kids. *If* the dog is truly as well behaved as the owner thinks it is, then why not allow them to continue their little blissful path.
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@wxPDX: can I shoot a dog if it approaches me and I feel threatened
Who are you, George Zimmerman?
If the dog is actually threatening you, sure, go ahead and shoot. Otherwise, you're just an ignorant, paranoid, self-righteous ass.
P.S. If you've gone this far in life without knowing shit about dogs, why don't you make yourself a better person and watch a few episodes of the Dog Whisperer.
Who are you, George Zimmerman?
If the dog is actually threatening you, sure, go ahead and shoot. Otherwise, you're just an ignorant, paranoid, self-righteous ass.
P.S. If you've gone this far in life without knowing shit about dogs, why don't you make yourself a better person and watch a few episodes of the Dog Whisperer.
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@9,
There are a ton of dog owners in Seattle who don't leash their pets even when walking on sidewalks on busy streets. Unleashed dogs in parks don't bother me, *that* does. Dog owners who put their pets in that kind of danger ought to be banned from owning any pet for the rest of their lives.
There are a ton of dog owners in Seattle who don't leash their pets even when walking on sidewalks on busy streets. Unleashed dogs in parks don't bother me, *that* does. Dog owners who put their pets in that kind of danger ought to be banned from owning any pet for the rest of their lives.
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@22, this city was made for humans, not for dogs. when your dog becomes a human, please walk it without a leash.
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People who live in cities who walk their dogs off-leash are fucking idiots. I have friends who work in animal control in SF who scrape dead dogs off the street EVERYDAY whose owners insist "nothing like this has ever happened before." And that's not even touching on the problem of dog-on-dog aggression, or humans who are afraid of dogs. We have a leash law here for a bunch if good reasons (contrary to what was said above there are no off-leash hours in SF). It's selfish, ignorant, entitled behavior. Put a fucking leash on your dog.
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@22, Charles,
Based on your later post it seems you don't think children are human either since you don't want those "stupid children" making your bus "stupid".
Next time you see a crime will you report it or will you just let it go again? Do you only let crimes go unreported when the criminals are black or will any old criminals get off in Charles's lovely human centered city?
Based on your later post it seems you don't think children are human either since you don't want those "stupid children" making your bus "stupid".
Next time you see a crime will you report it or will you just let it go again? Do you only let crimes go unreported when the criminals are black or will any old criminals get off in Charles's lovely human centered city?
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@35: this city was made for humans, not for dogs.
You know who the city was not made for? People who think the city was made for them.
You know who the city was not made for? People who think the city was made for them.
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@36,
My sister regularly let her dog run around off leash, and he was a ridiculously chill dog. Even if he ran up ahead of us a bit, he never galloped away (the way my dog would; you couldn't so much as accidentally drop the leash with my dog), and, if he reached the end of the block first, he would always stop and wait.
My sister sounded exactly like #22 (albeit with less outraged vitriol). Her dog was obedient and smart and scared of the street, he would never get hit by a car.
Until he was, and he died instantly from the impact.
My sister regularly let her dog run around off leash, and he was a ridiculously chill dog. Even if he ran up ahead of us a bit, he never galloped away (the way my dog would; you couldn't so much as accidentally drop the leash with my dog), and, if he reached the end of the block first, he would always stop and wait.
My sister sounded exactly like #22 (albeit with less outraged vitriol). Her dog was obedient and smart and scared of the street, he would never get hit by a car.
Until he was, and he died instantly from the impact.
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@keshmeshi: There are a ton of dog owners in Seattle who don't leash their pets even when walking on sidewalks on busy streets.
No, in fact, there aren't. It's so rare that I can instantly recall the one exception in my neighborhood - a little schnauzer mix who walks down 15th Ave on the top of Capitol Hill.
If that dog is minding his own business, so should you.
No, in fact, there aren't. It's so rare that I can instantly recall the one exception in my neighborhood - a little schnauzer mix who walks down 15th Ave on the top of Capitol Hill.
If that dog is minding his own business, so should you.
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@9, that's why there are dog parks...so your little pookums doesn't run up to my dog and my dog takes his/her head off. I don't take my dog to off leash parks for this very reason...so you self-entitled twats need to start leashing your dogs.
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Yes, LOTS of owners let their pets off leash, because the owners are so convinced their pets will obey every command Ha!
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It was the guy's service dog. He was inside of Walmart. He should have had it on a leash. CM left out the best part: the store kept right on running "like nothing even happened."
A dog off of a leash is fine, natural and healthy (outside, but not at the Farmer's Market--buying food with all those fucking dogs around is annoying and gross) as long as it doesn't attack me or my family. If it did then the dog should die. Likewise if my four-year-old came up and bit you, please shoot him.
A dog off of a leash is fine, natural and healthy (outside, but not at the Farmer's Market--buying food with all those fucking dogs around is annoying and gross) as long as it doesn't attack me or my family. If it did then the dog should die. Likewise if my four-year-old came up and bit you, please shoot him.
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