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Friday, March 15, 2013

North Dakota Senate Effectively Bans Abortion After Six Weeks of Pregnancy

Posted by on Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:50 PM

This is fucking terrible:

BISMARCK, N.D. — The North Dakota Senate on Friday approved banning abortions as early as six weeks into a pregnancy, sending what would be the most stringent abortion restrictions in the U.S. to the state’s Republican governor for his signature.

The measure would ban most abortions if a fetal heartbeat can be detected, something that can happen as early as six weeks into a pregnancy. The House already approved the measure. Gov. Jack Dalrymple generally opposes abortion but has not said whether he will sign the bill into law.

To put things in perspective:


If North Dakota Governor Dalrymple signs this bill into law, it'll basically ban abortion in North Dakota.

 

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Oh, shit.
Posted by gloomy gus on March 15, 2013 at 12:57 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 2
if? he'll sign, he's GOP.

this will be the model for every republican controlled state in the country.

Posted by Max Solomon on March 15, 2013 at 12:58 PM · Report this
Original Andrew 3
It's too bad RepubliKKKans couldn't give a damn what happens to those babies after they're born.
Posted by Original Andrew on March 15, 2013 at 1:00 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 4
@3,
They care in a certain sense... They want them to either:

1. Join the military so the warmonger republicans can wage more wars, or

2. Go to prison, which are mostly located in republican districts, where they count as population but don't get to vote... i.e., get more republicans elected.

Republicans view poor people as fodder. Republican strategies are not merely selfish, they are evil.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on March 15, 2013 at 1:11 PM · Report this
Fifty-Two-Eighty 5
Meh. The Supreme Court recently threw out a law banning abortions after 20 weeks. This is clearly unconstitutional. Don't get your panties twisted.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on March 15, 2013 at 1:14 PM · Report this
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Experimental theology has conclusively proven that the possession of a heartbeat equals human life.
Posted by Warren Terra on March 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 7
WOW don't they have any respect for law? Who are these Republican anarchists?
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on March 15, 2013 at 1:24 PM · Report this
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What a horrible waste of tax payer funds. This will immediately be challenged, a court will eventually throw it out and the Christian right will bitch and moan and plot to do it all again. All so a few old, white guys can pat themselves on the back and say they're the ones who have been wronged.

Wash, rinse, repeat.
Posted by Bonzer Terriffic on March 15, 2013 at 1:24 PM · Report this
AFinch 9
This is horrible, but I am curious: will losing the right actually start to form a backlash against the reactionary backlash we've had for forties years now from the right wing?

Why hasn't widespread availability of mifepristone not changed this dynamic?
Posted by AFinch on March 15, 2013 at 1:30 PM · Report this
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With this federal Supreme Court, I'm worried.
Posted by floater on March 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM · Report this
Ballard Pimp 11
This is what the people who have rented Rob McKenna would like to do.
Posted by Ballard Pimp on March 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM · Report this
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@9 mifepristone hasn't been a game changer because of restrictions to access. You still hafta get it from a clinic (and they'll need to do an ultrasound to confirm that the pregnancy is in the uterus, date the preganancy, and conduct Rh status testing). You can't just have it called into Walgreens, take it home, and abort. Jennie McCormack tried that in Idaho, was waaaaay too far along for a medical abortion and was arrested for violating a weirdo law in Idaho that states a woman cannot administer her own abortion.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/20…
Posted by couchetard on March 15, 2013 at 2:36 PM · Report this
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Although it is horrible, it's not as bad as you make it sound. Learn your biology, otherwise you sound like an idiot who shouldn't be paid attention to. You get pregnant at ovulation, which is in the middle of the cycle. So the ban is 4 weeks after a missed period.
Posted by john devany on March 15, 2013 at 3:33 PM · Report this
venomlash 14
The REALLY bad part is the other bill they passed along with it. Under that bill (HB 1305), it would be illegal to abort a pregnancy because of a genetic disorder of the embryo/fetus. This is basically aimed at Down Syndrome, but it's got a pretty wide scope.
People with Down Syndrome get off relatively easy with mild to moderate mental retardation, some fairly benign skeletomuscular deformations, and usually some congenital problems of the heart or gastrointestinal tract. Other trisomies aren't so gentle, let alone the vast number of problems you can find with 46XY.
This bill, if passed, will cause infants to be brought into the world to face short, painful lives.
Posted by venomlash on March 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM · Report this
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Infertile, wealthy Americans are having a dickens of a time finding enough healthy, white babies for purchase. I'm sure this will help.
Posted by spiderplanet on March 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM · Report this
Shibari-san 16
Another state the Federal Government will have to sue to overturn the law. I swear, to punish these morons the government should bill the state to foot all legal expenses as they remind them of the Federal Law.
Posted by Shibari-san http://youtu.be/IHnGMV8yOEQ on March 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM · Report this
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@13: You get pregnant when egg meet sperm. The egg doesn't have to be outside of the fallopian tube for that to occur. When such a pregnancy happens, it's known as "ectopic" and the zygote sure as hell isn't surviving that.
Posted by treehugger on March 15, 2013 at 5:33 PM · Report this
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@3: I pointed this out to my pro-life cousin, and she said that isn't fair. She and her husband plan on opening up their home to special needs kids. After he's retired, of course. In the meantime, she'll get pregnant as many times as she can. But they'll get around to adopting all those unwanted children they insist need to be born, in their own time you see.
Posted by treehugger on March 15, 2013 at 5:35 PM · Report this
deadrose 19
If they're dating the pregnancy the usual medical way, by last menstrual period, a woman will have 2 weeks from her missed period (if she's absolutely regular) to get an abortion.

Boy, am I glad my branch of the family left North Dakota!
Posted by deadrose on March 15, 2013 at 7:40 PM · Report this
Free Lunch 20
Well, the governor has four adult daughters and no sons, so here's hoping he has a more enlightened view of women's health. I hope one will call and convince him not to make this anti-woman shit his legacy.
Posted by Free Lunch on March 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM · Report this
onion 21
13, see 19. and 17 - sperm meets egg usually within 24-36 hrs of ovulation (often sooner than that). so, yeah, fertilization is quite closely tied to ovulation.
Posted by onion on March 15, 2013 at 9:21 PM · Report this
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this will essentially ban abortion in n.d., as most (all?) clinics won't perform an abortion until the sac is visible via ultrasound to ensure complete removal, which is at approximately six weeks. and while, yes, it is possible to take the "abortion pill," legislation in places like wisconsin and perhaps elsewhere have, at least temporarily, ended its use.
Posted by wisco woman on March 15, 2013 at 9:37 PM · Report this
AFinch 23
@12 - Thanks for the pointer to the story.

It seems to me that some brave souls will have to start performing "back alley" prescription services. Why Obama's FDA still won't loosen this up just infuriates me. Didn't Plan B finally get cleared to get free of the "conscientious objectors" of the medical world?
Posted by AFinch on March 16, 2013 at 7:22 AM · Report this
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As long as Roe v. Wade stands, this law is meaningless. It's still incredibly stupid - the "it has a heartbeat!" thing the anti-choicers are always screeching about only reveals their ignorance of basic biology - but as long as we still have our 5 pro-choice justices, all abortions are legal until the point of viability.
Posted by I have always been... east coaster on March 17, 2013 at 11:19 PM · Report this
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Yay, finally someone with some common sense. Hold the women and men who are in casual relationships accountable for being more careful and preventing unwanted pregnancies as opposed to using abortions for birth control. In today's society, these many abortions are not necessary if people would make better decisions, be more careful and take their relationships more serious. If people would use the God given intelligence concerning relationships and preventing unwanted pregnancies, abortion would be a non-issue. The only people I know that got pregnant using birth control, did not use it correctly. Like I said, think and use your brain ....... All of these women getting abortions ..... The math does not add up. All of these women getting abortions can't possibly be a statistic for "failed" birth control. Smarter decisions would help prevent all of these abirtions !
Posted by Ke51 on March 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM · Report this
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Yay, finally someone with some common sense. If women and men would be more careful, prevent unwanted pregnancies and not have so many casual relationships, abortion would be a non-issue. People should use their God given intelligence to think and make better decisions. You can't tell me that all of these abortions are necessary and that all of these women are a statistic for "failed" birth control. The math does not add up. The only people I know who got pregnant using birth control used it incorrectly. Like I said, people should be held accountable for their actions ! In today''s society, with today's technology, abortions should not be used as a means of birth control ! Less than 1% of all abortions are because of rapes and illness. The rest are all means of birth control ! Get rid of the frivolous abortions, the abortions because of stupidity, and we would not be having this discussion !
Posted by Kae51 on March 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM · Report this

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