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Saturday, March 9, 2013

Saturday Morning News

Posted by on Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Score One, NRA: South Dakota is now the first state to explicitly authorize teachers to carry guns in classrooms.

But Guns Make Us Safer: Yesterday, Anna Minard reported on a shooting in North Seattle's Greenlake area that put local schools on lock-down. Since that post, the suspected shooter was arrested at her home in Burien.

North Korea Continues to Launch Existential Threats at the United States: The United States remains unconcerned.

Whole Foods Jumps on the Labeling Train: If you read the Stranger last week (which you did), you know that Washingtonians will soon be voting on a bill that would require GMO products to be labeled. Whole Foods has finally come out in support of GMO labeling, and all of its GMO products will be labled within the next five years.

Osama Bin Laden's Son-in-Law Pleads Not Guilty to Conspiring to Kill Americans: Yes, that means he is in a real civilian trial, not Guantanamo Bay.

Wannabe Chavez Takes Office in Venezuela: America's hopes for a more malleable leader in Venezuela are dwindling as the officially sworn-in Nicolas Maduro adopts Chavez's speech patterns, promises to uphold Chavez's revolution, and chants "I am Chavez" at the late president's funeral.

The McGinn Abides: Yesterday, after a bit of controversy over who actually had the right to sign it, Mayor Mike McGinn approved a reform plan aimed at the Seattle Police Department.

Kenyatta Wins Presidential Election in Kenya: Presumably because his name has "Kenya" in it.

A Tragic Update: On Wednesday, a 24-year-old woman from Brier was killed by a lion while she was interning at Cat Haven near Fresno, California. It was originally thought that she had been in the cage with the lion, but it turns out the large African cat had escaped from its enclosure.

Job Growth Doesn't Give a Shit About the Sequester: Not yet at least. For the moment, unemployment is at a four-year low.


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ScienceNerd 1
Second shooter story sounds as if the shooter was found at Anna's house. Made me laugh. :)
Posted by ScienceNerd on March 9, 2013 at 8:12 AM · Report this
Best quote on the North Korea issue

The threat drew an angry response from the South's defence ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok, who said that the North would become "extinct from the Earth by the will of mankind" if it took such an action.

From the BBC website.

Second best quote... "US remains unconcerned"

Posted by Field_Mice on March 9, 2013 at 8:35 AM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 3
Not sure why everyone here in the US thinks North Korea's threats are funny...we have a lot of troops in South Korea and the north DOES have the ability to cause some nuclear chaos on the peninsula.
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on March 9, 2013 at 8:46 AM · Report this
Reverse Polarity 4
The lion had apparently escaped before. I predict a lawsuit in 3... 2... 1...
Posted by Reverse Polarity on March 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM · Report this
"US remains unconcerned"

and why not?

what US cities are in range?


San Francisco?

LA? (gosh we hope so....)

Posted by Real America on March 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 6
@ 3, while that's true, they were directly threatening US soil. They have yet to show that they could deliver a nuke to Seoul, never mind North America.

Nukes - the part that goes "boom" is only half of it.
Posted by Matt from Denver on March 9, 2013 at 8:58 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 7
Also, not a word about Colorado's gun control measures passing? For shame, intern.
Posted by Matt from Denver on March 9, 2013 at 9:07 AM · Report this
seatackled 8
Has there even ever been a school shooting in South Dakota?
Posted by seatackled on March 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM · Report this
Unemployment down. yipee!

The number of adults out of the workforce is at an all time high. Is that good?

Work. Strictly optional (and increasingly rare...) in the Humanist Liberal Qunited States of Gommorica
Posted by Why don't the 1% give everyone a job? Bastards.... on March 9, 2013 at 9:36 AM · Report this
Guantanamo Bay?


That's a blast from the past.

Didn't Obama shut that place down, like, four years ago?
Posted by Your President is a shitty lying failure on March 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM · Report this
Why should Job Growth give a shit about the Sequester?

Obama promised America there would be NO Sequester.

Do you not believe Your President?
Posted by ......oh Ye of Little Faith. on March 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM · Report this
Will parents be informed which teachers are carrying?

Sweet jesus, when I think of some of the deeply unstable men and women who taught me as a child, I just feel for those kids.
Posted by jt on March 9, 2013 at 9:47 AM · Report this
Chelydra_serpentina 13
North Korea's just so cute playing grown-up like that. Don't you just want to pinch its cheeks and give it a li'l pat on the head?

*sniffle* Seems like it was just yesterday that little Hugo was doing the same thing.

Ever see one of those "The Earth After Dark" pictures? Ever looked at North Korea on one of those pictures? If it weren't for those millions of oppressed and starving people, North Korea would be just hilarious.
Posted by Chelydra_serpentina on March 9, 2013 at 9:54 AM · Report this
raindrop 14
But one of these days an armed teacher will avert a massacre. I wonder what the talking points will be then.
Posted by raindrop on March 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM · Report this
Keekee 15
Dream on nutjob!
Posted by Keekee on March 9, 2013 at 10:16 AM · Report this
mikethehammer 16

Don't forget Portland! Us hipster & homo jackasses are proud, founding members of the "quinted states of gommorica!" Or is it "gaymerica"?

I get so confused by your nuanced and intellectual rhetoric.
Posted by mikethehammer on March 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 17
Chavez's penchant for hyperbolic drama frequently made him look clownish. Some of his policies were excellent, and some were terrible. He built a cult of personality around himself, which his successor is attempting to use toward his own ends. I hear his body is even being embalmed and then put on permanent display in Caracas.

Venezulea is a resource power, with a larger proven oil reserve than any other. Countries like this often collapse into failed states, with the exception of Norway and Scotland.

That said, Chavez ran for and won election thrice in what outside observers have described as free and fair elections. That makes him better than those world leaders who attended his funeral. I doubt we'll ever see Lukashenko stand for election in a fair contest.

Thus, I respect Chavez to some degree. Admiration would be too strong a word, since his attempt to get the legislature to appoint him President for Life left a rancid taste in my mouth. His bizarre and all too often clownish pronouncements made me think he was totally batshit on more than one occasion. And yet he did do much to ease the plight of the working poor in Venezuela. And he never did seize absolute power, which he could have done.

He was thus quite an ordinary man. neither good nor evil, neither an idiot nor a genius. He will be remembered as being painfully average
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on March 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM · Report this
average? winning three elections, boosting lives of the poor, and angering lots of americans?

hey the usa gave money to right wing governments who comitted genocide and killings via death squads -- ronald reagan and other presidents, say nixon, are bigger law violators than chavez was. he did not kill his opponents. and we allied with stalin, a genocidal murderer, and admired his positive points: he helped us beat the nazis. so we can admire part of what chavez did while properly disparaging another part of it -- his authorirarian acts. he was no trujillo, no batista, no rios mont, no pinchet -- murders that our nation supported with aid, and in some cases, cia help to commit illegal coups to gain power -- while chavez ruled thru elections.

may he rest in peace. what latin american leader would you say is better than he was? lulu for one. most of them do jack shit for the poor. he did something for the poor, won elections, and didn't kill his enemies that puts him agead of reagan and nixon and eisenhower-supported murdering dictators.
Posted by k chavez vaya con dios on March 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM · Report this
@17: Scotland's not a *failed* state, but it's not a non-failed state--really more of an petro-ATM for the UK with delusions of independence.
Posted by tiktok on March 9, 2013 at 11:07 AM · Report this
Breaking News: Obama Administration finally does something right!…

The Obama Administration has filed a brief in support of a Maryland photojournalist who says he was arrested and beaten after he took photographs of the police arresting two other men. The brief by the Justice Department argues that the US Constitution protects the right to photograph the actions of police officers in public places and prohibits police officers from arresting journalists for exercising those rights.

Although, Drone Master Obama, we are afraid it is too little, too late in the game, sir!

And for the real deal on the recently deceased great man, President Hugo Chavez:

(Begins at time mark of 14:59)…

Posted by sgt_doom on March 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 21

60 minute documentary about fuel cells and hydrogen:

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe on March 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM · Report this
Posted by Matt from Denver on March 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 23
I didn't even know there were schools in South Dakota
Posted by Urgutha Forka on March 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM · Report this
As we said, Drone Master Obama, too little too late:…

Brennan was sworn in as CIA Director on a “first draft” of the Constitution including notations from George Washington, dating to 1787.

. . . .

That means, when Brennan vowed to protect and defend the Constitution, he was swearing on one that did not include the First, Fourth, Fifth, or Sixth Amendments — or any of the other Amendments now included in our Constitution.

And the news about Chris Hansen's hedge fund (the dood who wants that stadium built for the still non-existent basketball team, in order to increase the points and leverage from the banks which such a city bond-backed arrangement will do for him):

(Hansen, a noted short seller, worked previously at Blue Ridge Capital, yet another hedge fund --- you know, those guys who speculated up all the costs for oil/energy, foods (commodities), healthcare costs, etc.)


And from the Wikipedia entry:…

In 2008 Blue Ridge Capital's division in China started a joint venture with Equity International investing in Xinyuan Real Estate. In December, 2007, Xinyuan Real Estate goes public on the NYSE as an ADR ticker symbol XIN. It traded north of $15 per share but has floundered and settled between $1-$3 range lately.
Posted by sgt_doom on March 9, 2013 at 11:44 AM · Report this
raindrop 25
@15: Go ahead and say that, but haven't stranger things happened? That's what makes the news.
Posted by raindrop on March 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM · Report this
Let us fervently hope that stadium investment turns out better than Chris Hansen's last investment in Evernote:……
Posted by sgt_doom on March 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM · Report this
And for the penultimate OPP (now called TPP) for all you Wall Street worshipping fuckwads:…

Posted by sgt_doom on March 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM · Report this
And of course, the incomparable Glenn Greenwald:
Posted by sgt_doom on March 9, 2013 at 12:18 PM · Report this
Phoebe in Wallingford 29
Re: Last news item
Unless you're a White House tour guide. Why the administration did this is baffling from so many angles. But I do trust that it was not instigated merely to enable the First Lady to meander throughout the Executive Mansion with diminished decorum with her bangs in curlers.
Posted by Phoebe in Wallingford on March 9, 2013 at 12:33 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 30
boy, i sure hope there's a school shooter in SD that gets stopped by an armed teacher so raindrop can be right!
Posted by Max Solomon on March 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 31
@ 25, there are already plenty of REAL WORLD reports of armed guards and police being useless at schools. Whether it's accidental discharges (which bring the reality of a dead child closer to us than that of a dead killer), or one who failed to do anything on the scene at Columbine High School, armed guards and police patrols already have a long record of abject failure, and not one instance of preventing murder.

Hence, @ 22. Please, watch the video.
Posted by Matt from Denver on March 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 32

I find the rhetoric of the SNP to be hilarious sometimes. Scotland has not suffered the way Ireland did prior to independence. They entered Union voluntarily. There was no engineered famine there. Scots seeking employment or housing in England were not compared to dogs.

That said, I do support the referendum. I wish they would become a Republic instead of staying in the Commonwealth, but I'll take what i can get.

Now, Scotland is and no matter which way that referendum goes, not a failed state. The state still has a monopoly on violence, corruption is lower than it is here in the US, and they have a low GINI coefficient. If you measure the country in terms of Civil Rights, they're better than average. This is not the DRC or anything even close to it.

Lets leave hyperbole aside. I support Scottish independence because they clearly want to be their own nation-state. It strikes me as unethical to detain anyone against their will.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on March 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 33
It has already happened. in 1997 at Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi Vice Principal Joel Myrick, retrieved his personal Colt 1911 .45 automatic and stopped a school shooting.…

As usual the Media suppresses stories where a gun is used for defense, it is kinda of a case of "dog bites man." Not unlike how the recent Portland mall shooting was stopped when the suspect was confronted by an armed bystander.
Posted by Cascadian Bacon on March 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM · Report this
raindrop 34
@31: So that it doesn't nag you for the rest of the day, you can rest assured that I watched that video.
Posted by raindrop on March 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM · Report this
raindrop 35
Off topic, but I miss the 'Friends of Slog/Enemies of Slog' list on the right margin. It was a good "resource".
Posted by raindrop on March 9, 2013 at 2:39 PM · Report this
venomlash 36
@33: He got the gun out of his truck and accosted the disturbed young man outside of the school after two people were already dead and seven more wounded. He didn't have a gun inside the school or on his person.
Posted by venomlash on March 9, 2013 at 2:47 PM · Report this
Sandiai 37
@33 It reads more like the shooting was over-with when the shooter was apprehended by the principal

The school's assistant principal, Joel Myrick, retrieved a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol from his truck and, spotting him near the parking lot [running away, after the shootings], shouted for Woodham to stop. Woodham instead got into his mother's car and tried to escape. Myrick, a U.S. Army Reserve commander, detained Woodham until authorities arrived.

I'm not saying that there are NO examples of what you're talking about (since there are anecdotes of everything), but this does not appear to be one of those exemplary situations.
Posted by Sandiai on March 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM · Report this
Sandiai 38
Awww, Jinks!
Posted by Sandiai on March 9, 2013 at 2:56 PM · Report this
@33, Not unlike how the recent Portland mall shooting was stopped when the suspect was confronted by an armed bystander.

But that shooter shot himself.

Even if you believe that guy's story, which is a pretty stupid thing to do, it doesn't make sense. According to him, he saw a shooter, pulled his own gun, was too big of a pussy to actually shoot him, then the shooter continued running all the way through the department store, across the rest of the mall, killed more people, and finally shot himself, all because he was afraid of being shot by that one guy who always wanted to be a hero but was too big a pussy to pull the trigger when the time came.
Posted by GermanSausage on March 9, 2013 at 3:41 PM · Report this
rob! 40
@36 & @37 having already made the intelligent-person interpretations of @33's hurr-durr-gunzeverywhurr "argument" for armed school personnel, I'll confine myself to the following points:

1) While Mr. Myrick, as an Army reservist, showed uncommon restraint in not blowing away the perpetrator of the assault but instead assisted his live capture for trial and conviction, it was Woodham's youth and inexperience that caused him to lose control of the getaway vehicle, bringing him to a stop conveniently close to Myrick.

2) Most normal people would view this story as an argument for highly controlled access to school campuses, which is standard practice in many jurisdictions now anyway.

3) I encourage the NRA to take up the banner of real reform for mental health care in this country—instead of calling for the branding and incarceration-without-trial of individuals exhibiting disturbed behavior in order to divert attention from gun-control legislation, support (i.e., put the power of your membership and lobbying budget behind) the mandatory provision of broad mental health care services in all employer- and government-provided health-insurance plans, including but not limited to outpatient psychiatric services and medications, along with revamping civil commitment procedures and resurrecting state psychiatric hospitals to include compassionate-care principles, heavy outside oversight, timely due process, and multiple re-integration pathways.
Posted by rob! on March 9, 2013 at 3:42 PM · Report this
It's far more likely there will be more deaths in schools from a teacher getting careless.
Teachers are only human. They get tired and stressed and make mistakes.
I hate to imagine what would happen if a teacher's gun got into the hands of some of my classmates.
Posted by swing state voter on March 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 42
I was going to talk about the GMO labeling thing, but nobody in this thread is even worked up about it. Man, you guys are no fun. Well, here's my bit anyway.

It seems it would be easier to just label things that aren't genetically modified, which would basically be, what, primordial ooze? Do they even sell that any more?
Posted by MacCrocodile on March 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 43
"I am Chavez" doesn't have the ring of "I am Spartacus!"

Just sayin.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on March 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM · Report this
@18 Thanks for that. I'd take Chavez over Reagan or the Bushes on any day, and what Nixon and the CIA did to Chile on Sept 11, 1974, was absolutely criminal. Chavez told the imperial U.S. to shove it, and for that we made him into one of our boogie men.
Posted by floater on March 9, 2013 at 6:00 PM · Report this
Dr_Awesome 45
Rob! @40, sadly, those ideas are way too complex for the herpy-derpy NRA members to understand, much less actually advocate.

Much easier for them to just keep repeating their 'Yay, guns is good!' drivel.
Posted by Dr_Awesome on March 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 46
Things Hugo Chavez has blamed the U.S. for

Specific wars
Wars in general
The word 'War'
Star Wars
The word 'Raw' (just in case)
The coming of winter every year
Opal Fruits being renamed as Starburst
Blue cheese
The fact that girls see him as a kind of pseudo-military lawn ornament
The Audio Cryptic Crossword
Scratched DVDs
Taxes not being paid to him
S Club 7, but not S Club 7 Juniors of which he is a fan
Bonekickers, not the television show but people who kick bones in general
The Rose Bowl (the US has conceded that they are indeed responsible for this)
The Rose Bowl (Hampshire County Cricket Ground), and all related traffic problems
Harshing his mellow, man
Vanilla Ice
Jonny Wilkinson still being injured
The Book of Hosea
Italian Ice
The loss of feudalism in Sark
Reverend Wright
Music which you can't hum to
Dry Ice
Chad & Jeremy (which were actually the fault of Great Britain)
The changing of Burma's name to Myanmar
The guy who does OxyClean commercials that yells really loudly and looks like a caveman
Prometheus stealing fire from the gods.
The sackings of Rome and Constantinople (455 and 1204 respectively)
His inability to beat level four of Resident Evil
His lack of a breakthrough Hollywood role
For stealing the bottom half of the circle of stars on the Venezuelan flag, for use on their own
That time, when he was eleven, and he stubbed his toe
Synchronised swimming
The collapse of the British Empire (he got that right at least)
The fact that his flag looks likes a sad face
The 1975 motion picture Mitchell staring Joe Don Baker
The pornographic nature of his Ugly Betty fanfiction
Princess Di
Princess Di's Death
Princess Di's Affairs
Diana and Charles' Divorce
Liverpool's poor start to the season
Justin Bieber
Boob Quake
Crazy People
Child birthing
President Bush
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on March 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM · Report this
@46-- so what? we can disparage chavez for his idiotic statements, like we disparage stalin for mudering 60 million people, which is oh about twelve million times worse, while we (a) applaud stalin for allying with us and occupying 200 divisions of the fucking wehrmacht for oh a few years while we geared up and were barely in ww2 -- enabling us to beat the nazis -- and ( b) applus chavez for taking his oil money and boosting lives of the poor, unlike the murdering dictators our government put in power and sustained and helped kill maryknoll nuns and oh btw ripped off the poor to enrich their own pockets.

yes, you are right, pinochet didn't blame the usa for scratched dvd's I guess somehow that defeats my point and makes yours, which was what btw? here's the point again, moron:

chavez was better by FAR than the score of murdering bastard dictators the usa put in powre or sustained or the death squad leaderswe financed -- using your tax money. so in the end, chavez is MORALLY BETTER THAN YOU. yes, it's true chavez gave to cuba and that's a negative for him, but you? your taxes and those ofyour dad and grandad supported batista, marines in dr and haiti, duvalier, baby duvalier, cia coups in guatemala and chile overthrowing constitutional and legally elected governments, military torturers in chile argentina brazil and uruguay, dictators in DR and venezuela and columbia, and honduras, and oh btw the usa also supported an illegal coup gainst chavez -- so end of stofy: you lose the moral argument. chavez did more for the people and the poor in venezuela than the entire set of all previous rulers. he saved lives, helped get food and housing, and all he had to do to be better than avcerage in latin america was NOT RIP OFF EVERYONE and enrich the rich, which is what most of them have done with USA support.
Posted by gringos tontos todavia maman on March 10, 2013 at 11:15 AM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 48

¿Por qué no te callas?

No wait! King Juan Carlos finally got his wish! Hugo has finally shut up at long last!
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on March 11, 2013 at 7:12 PM · Report this

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