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Friday, February 22, 2013

Google Glass Could Be for Sale By the End of This Year

Posted by on Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM

The thing I can't stop thinking about this morning is Joshua Topolsky's early-user review of Google Glass, the glasses with Google inside:

Here’s what you see: the time is displayed, with a small amount of text underneath that reads "ok glass." That’s how you get Glass to wake up to your voice commands. Actually, it’s a two-step process. First you have to touch the side of the device (which is actually a touchpad), or tilt your head upward slowly, a gesture which tells Glass to wake up. Once you’ve done that, you start issuing commands by speaking "ok glass" first, or scroll through the options using your finger along the side of the device. You can scroll items by moving your finger backwards or forward along the strip, you select by tapping, and move "back" by swiping down. Most of the big interaction is done by voice, however.

Topolsky never stops feeling weird about walking around New York City with a pair of asymmetrical whoozimawhatsises on his head, but he does enjoy the Glass experience, deciding ultimately that it's not a case of if some sort of Google Glass becomes popular with the general public, but when. He also reveals that Google might be planning on selling these by the end of this year. You should go read the whole, star-struck review. Now I know I asked Slog about Google Glass last year, but it's getting closer, and I'd like to see if our opinion has changed. Therefore...

 

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It's going to be used for first-person porn. That's going to be its most popular usage.
Posted by Drew2u on February 22, 2013 at 11:39 AM · Report this
2
THese are probably great for the way we live. But the way we live is fucked up
Posted by Foonken2 on February 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM · Report this
Simply Me 3
They're cool, but I'm concerned about privacy. What will stop a hacker (or government) from tapping into our glasses to see intimate details of our lives.

How long will it be before we see what Paris Hilton reads while taking a crap?

Posted by Simply Me on February 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM · Report this
pfffter 4
It's hard enough carrying on a conversation with people constantly on their smartphones. With this advancement, person-to-person live communication will be almost totally eradicated. Dinners out with friends will be a bunch of people touching and talking to their damn glasses instead of each other. Barf.
Posted by pfffter on February 22, 2013 at 11:47 AM · Report this
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 5
I don’t know when they first had feeds. Like maybe, fifty or a hundred years ago. Before that, they had to use their hands and their eyes. Computers were all outside the body. They carried them around outside of them, in their hands, like if you carried your lungs in a briefcase and opened it to breathe.

Feed
M T Anderson

https://kindle.amazon.com/work/feed-eboo…
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on February 22, 2013 at 11:47 AM · Report this
TheMisanthrope 6
What about for those of us who wear prescription glasses?
Posted by TheMisanthrope on February 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 7
I'm alpha testing the French version, to see if it responds to terrible mixed-language situations in commands in dirty environments (sound admixture on a bus, people speaking tech, stuff likely to trigger incorrect responses) and how the isolation factors function outside the lab.

Wait till version 2.1, which will just look like Mad Men glasses. Very geek tech.

My main prob is the battery and weight factors. Doesn't feel like it's heavy, but it is when worn. And when you push the engine too hard, battery sucks, which means it weighs more if they fix that. Like I said, everyone will get one, but if you wait till it's been out a while, you'll be glad you did.

The best part is who is doing some of the design fabs. I'm talking Will.i.am and Katy Perry, among others (I don't care about the others, but you probably do).
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM · Report this
Rotten666 8
@5 Feed was some scary shit.
Posted by Rotten666 on February 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 9
@6 basically, the short answer is, if you can buy a pair of cheap reading glasses for your basic prescription, there will be a version for you. Again, you might have to wait until a few months, as that has something to do with contractual obligations and who does the lens. They also have a longer testing cycle for those.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM · Report this
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Wow, SROTU and I have the same reading tastes???

Anyway, I want to third the book Feed. It's a funny, sad, and scary portrait of pop culture+google glass taken to a logical extreme. It's quite good and will make you think twice about this kind of technology.
Posted by Jude Fawley on February 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM · Report this
Fnarf 11
@7, here we go again.

You are not alpha-testing fuck-all diddly for Google, or Apple, or anyone else, and the fact that you believe people here will believe that you are just goes to show how idiotic you are.

For starters, Google doesn't alpha test anything with members of the public. And anyone who is participating in Google testing of anything who announces the fact in a public forum like this one would be spread-eagled on the floor having all of their personal devices confiscated within a few seconds of such a prohibited move. In addition, Google is a pretty smart company, and there is no freaking way they would trust so much as a cracker crumb to a moron like you. Lastly, you don't speak fucking French.

No, wait, that's not lastly. Lastly is your comment @9, which displays not just a lack of knowledge about how Google works, how Google Glass works, how prescription eyeglasses work, how lenses work, how contracts work, and how your own fucking sad put-upon useless brain works.

FOAD.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM · Report this
Banna 12
I can't wait to wear these while chatting on my Android (iPhone is too popular) phone and zooming to the nearest fair-trade coffeehouse on my fixie to Instagram myself searching on my MacBook Pro for nearby vintage music stores that carry classic vinyl recordings of band you've never hear of.

Oh, and tattoo.
Posted by Banna http://www.ucp.org on February 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM · Report this
seandr 13
@1: And that's why I'll be getting a pair.
Posted by seandr on February 22, 2013 at 12:20 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 14
@1,
Exactly.

Second most popular will be cat videos.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on February 22, 2013 at 12:23 PM · Report this
Reverse Polarity 15
Kill me now.

Because digging out my smart phone or tablet is just too, too time consuming and inconvenient. I have to have this device plastered to my face to spare me the unbearable inconvenience of having to pull out my phone.

I sear I'm going to punch the first person I see who interrupts a meal in a restaurant talking to their goddamned Google Glasses.
Posted by Reverse Polarity on February 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 16
@11 can I help it if the point of doing the testing is to find problems which cause them to slip the release cycle on the version I get my hands on?

Face it, you just hate tech.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 22, 2013 at 12:31 PM · Report this
Fnarf 17
@15, I will give you five dollars if you punch Will. Whether he's wearing them or not.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 12:32 PM · Report this
SchmuckyTheCat 18
@7

no you're not.
Posted by SchmuckyTheCat on February 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM · Report this
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I think 12 is missing the target demo by a couple miles.
Posted by Actionsquid on February 22, 2013 at 12:45 PM · Report this
20
I only buy new glasses if they hold an entire 12 oz beer. These do not appear to. So I will pass.
Posted by Ries on February 22, 2013 at 12:46 PM · Report this
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@Fnarf: I'm not saying Will in Seattle has a pair, because who knows, but these are absolutely out in the wild of Alpha/Beta/whatever testing:

http://uptownalmanac.com/2013/02/future-…

You too can apply to beta-test a pair right here:

http://www.google.com/glass/start/how-to…

Also, the frames business is very believable. The Verge video linked to in this Slog post contains the Google people discussing how the Glass hardware will be attachable to other glasses frames and how they're working partner designers on the style of the glasses.
Posted by algorhythm99 on February 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM · Report this
Reverse Polarity 22
"OK glass? Can you call me an ambulance? I just tripped over some poor lady in a wheelchair because I wasn't watching where the fuck I was going because I was watching a cat video on my google glass. I think I broke my nose when I fell."
Posted by Reverse Polarity on February 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM · Report this
Fnarf 23
@16, the only reason anyone would test you is in order to find out what the flying fuck is wrong with you, and if it's catching.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM · Report this
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The video is really cool, and I can totally see myself succumbing to the sort of continual, reflexive heads-up-display constant immersion in all the information of the internet that the video portrays, even though I know I totally don't need such.

Still, I couldn't help feeling that most of the cool uses for Glass on display in the video were contingent on the users living a much more exciting life than I do. I'd want a convenient recording device while hot-air-ballooning, too! But then, I don't hot-air-balloon.
Posted by Warren Terra on February 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 25
@17 last time you tried something like that, you learned why walls keep you from falling down.

I would not recommend that action. I may have a long fuse, but crossing the line as you seem to like leads to fairly predictable results.

Now, just because it turned out I was testing an iPad mini (they don't label them in alpha, as you'd know if you ever got to test an alpha device) instead of the iPad2, and they had to tear the guts out due to some tech patent problems with the 3DS supplier, during which they fixed the battery problems, that's why we have alphas. Which you would know, but you don't.

I'm just saying it feels fairly light in my hands, but wearing it is not yet as fun as it will be when they deal with the issues in the version I'm testing. I'm mostly doing it in a multi-lingual enviro in dirty noise you'd expect on any university, in a non-standard language s/w implementation outside region. That's where stuff fails, especially in dirty noise enviros. But you probably think things "just work". Cause you're nuts.

How's that funding for the SR-99 Deep Toll Tunnel and the admitting that tolls will be $10 or more EACH WAY and that capacity is that low and that they are having to get SR-520 bridge funding first coming for you? Turns out I was right on that one too, or haven't you seen the latest internal budget numbers?

Now go where there are children. We're talking how it works (fairly well, some minor tweaks) and is it cool (yes, and will be cooler) and does it work with prescription (yes, but not the one I'm testing but they do have some stuff for that) and will people buy them (yes, like hotcakes, especially the branded spinoffs by music peeps).

Dick.

Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM · Report this
Banna 26
@19: Young people with too much time and money who think they're so interesting that people will want to watch what they've recorded every minute of every day? Should I have said Segway instead of fixie?
Posted by Banna http://www.ucp.org on February 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM · Report this
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"Glassy-eyed stare" will become a new reason to hate people and their inability to ignore their gizmos.
Posted by beef rallard on February 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM · Report this
Fnarf 28
@21, some problems with your theory:

1. alpha != beta.

2. The testing you link to hasn't started yet.

3. Will couldn't write an winning essay on any topic ever.

4. Will does not have $1500 plus a plane ticket to spare.

5. Google is looking for "bold, creative individuals". Will in Seattle is neither of those things. Will is a shithead.

6. Will has a history of claiming to "alpha-test" exciting new technology, even imaginary technology. His last claim was for the "3-D iPad" which is "coming out in December" (of last year). He repeatedly claimed to have the unit in his hands.

7. Yes, Will was repeating what he heard about the frames from the link. His comments about "prescriptions" and "cheap reading glasses" are nonsensical. Notice that he calls them "design fabs". This is Will-in-Seattlese for "I look at tech journals, but I'm holding them upside down". Design fabs my ass.

See, this is why I attack Will in such detail -- new people come here and can fall victim to his neverending series of lies and bullshit.

Tell you what, though -- if, on May 1st, the day the list of invitees becomes available upon request, I will buy you a bottle of Bruichladdich if "Will Affleck-Asch" is on it.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM · Report this
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Why do Fnarf and Will in Seattle hate/love each other so much? What's the history with these two crazy kids? Anyone know why they don't just get a room and get it over with?
Posted by catsnbanjos on February 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM · Report this
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Has anyone used the translator in Android? They are moving towards "on the fly" translation with speech.. I think that will be the killer feature of Google Glasses (in a few years). Imagine someone speaking to you in another language, and you see subtitles for them in real time..
Posted by Nerdlinger on February 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM · Report this
Fnarf 31
@25, oh, now you're claiming to have defeated me in a fistfight? What a fucking colostomy bag you are. I've met you in person, remember, and so have many other Sloggers (all of whom regret it, especially the women). You're a repulsive creep, but you're not a violent creep, as far as I know (again, the women may have a different story to tell), and you are not a tough guy. You couldn't beat up a box of cereal, you contemptible nitwit.

I'll leave your deft weaving-in of the tunnel blah-blah for others to gawp at without commentary.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 32
There are times when Fnarf's dumping on Will gets too intense and mean for my liking, but today's episode has been an absolute gem.
Posted by Matt from Denver on February 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM · Report this
gttrgst 33
I too remember this episode of Laverne and Shirley.
Posted by gttrgst on February 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM · Report this
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@28 Did you miss me saying "I'm not saying Will in Seattle has a pair"

Because I wasn't saying that. I don't know anything about this feud or anything personal about either of you; I was just adding some facts.
Posted by algorhythm99 on February 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM · Report this
Akbar Fazil 35
@17, Fnarf can we get a kickstarter on that? I would gladly donate to the punch WiS fund.
Posted by Akbar Fazil on February 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM · Report this
Fnarf 36
If you want background on Will in Seattle and the "iPad 3D", look here:

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…

Here he is saying "Xmas 2011 - 3D iPad - be there!": http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…

Yes, I was mistaken, it was 2011 it was supposed to come out. Here he is repeating the claim: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…

The 3D claim appears here as well: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…

Here he is talking about Apple "whiteboarding iPad4 now" in March 2011: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…

Now, imagine that you are Apple, and a butthole in Seattle has somehow got ahold of your "whiteboard" secrets, and your 3D secrets, and is blabbing them on Slog years in advance of any public announcement. What do you think their reaction would be? Silence? No. Drone strikes, maybe.

No one at Apple has ever heard of Will Affleck-Asch, and no one ever will. Trust me, I've talked to medium-level Apple employees, and they agree: he's so full of shit his eyes are brown.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM · Report this
Fnarf 37
@34, no, and I am not attacking you. I'm just filling you in on background, because you appear to be taking Will at or near face value, which is a mistake I hope I can steer you away from. No insult intended (to you, that is).

My fervent hope is that Will shows up at Slog Nerd Happy Hour tonight with a pair of reading glasses from Bartells on, with the lenses snapped out and some broken bits from his now-destroyed phone glued to the side, and stands in the corner pretending to flick the screen and talk to it in bogus French. Be sure and get pictures, guys.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM · Report this
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@37: Consider me steered away from that.
Posted by algorhythm99 on February 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 39
@37 whatever, dude.

How's your prognostication about building heights and Seattle working for you.

You shoot. You miss the net.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on February 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM · Report this
Akbar Fazil 40
ok WiS, put up or shut up time. You've already broken some kind of NDA talking about testing your Google Glass so post a picture of yourself wearing it. Prove us all wrong. Show us how superior you are.
Posted by Akbar Fazil on February 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM · Report this
Fnarf 41
On the plus side, we now have "I'm mostly doing it in a multi-lingual enviro in dirty noise you'd expect on any university, in a non-standard language s/w implementation outside region" to add to the canon. That's Gold Star Will right there.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 2:15 PM · Report this
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I concur with @5 and others about reading MT Anderson's _Feed_. This is a must-read book. I really think the author nails the way that such feeds would be used and abused.

Wait for the ads. Once they have you *wearing* your Google all damn day, there will be nonstop ads ads ads.

Posted by rainbird on February 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM · Report this
43
Public Service Announcement: Will in Seattle is Slog's own village idiot. Seriously.
Posted by unregistered Slog commenter from day 1 on February 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM · Report this
Fnarf 44
@39, you don't know what the word "prognostication" means. Stop using it. Stop typing altogether, in fact. It would behoove you in particular to avoid talking about building heights, lest you expose yourself to yet more well-deserved ridicule in front of Slog newcomers.

You see, kids, Will once proposed building a bunch of 100-story towers "like they have in Vancouver" in the mud slopes of Capitol Hill, and then defended this "idea" vociferously while a parade of people pointed out the dozens of ways in which it was stupid (starting with the fact that Vancouver has no 100-story buildings).

The pinnacle of that discussion came when he cited in his defense the book "Defensible Space" by then-HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros. This defense was complicated by the fact that the book argues the exact opposite of his position, to which he replied that he "meant the Canadian edition". Because, you know, lots of authors have Canadian editions of their books that argue the exact opposite of their US one.

Needless to say, there is no Canadian edition, as verified in the catalog of the National Library of Canada, an organization that Will, a Canadian, has never heard of.

You see, Will, it's not just that you're a compulsive liar; it's that you are hopelessly incompetent at it.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM · Report this
Reverse Polarity 45
Oh, come on WIS.

If Google wanted to test a French version, wouldn't it make more sense to test it in, you know, France? Or maybe French-Canada as a reasonable second option? I'm pretty sure some white Seattleite with a couple years of high-school French isn't the ideal test subject.
Posted by Reverse Polarity on February 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM · Report this
kitschnsync 46
Have Will and Fnarf ever met IRL?
Posted by kitschnsync on February 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM · Report this
kitschnsync 47
I find the news of Google Stores more interesting than Google Glass. (Not that Google Glass isn't interesting, but people have known about the project for a while.)

Once Google has its own brick and mortar storefronts, they will be ready to take on Apple for reals. They have their own line of hardware, their own online distribution for media, etc... All they need are storefronts to stack up their assets vs. Apple.

As they position themselves as THE tech thought leader, they will also make their opposition to Facebook (with Google+) and Microsoft (Google Drive) more credible.

Google is taking over everything. But there's always the possibility that Amazon, Apple, or Facebook will take over everything first. Microsoft has already lost its chance, I think.

Isn't making shitloads of money enough? Why do these companies all aspire to monopoly?
Posted by kitschnsync on February 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM · Report this
rob! 48
The Münchhausen is strong in this one.
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on February 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM · Report this
Fnarf 49
@46, yes. At a few Slog Happies. Meeting Will for the first time is what turned me against him, actually; until then I defended him against his haters. Even then, after the first Freaky Friday (when commenters took over Slog posting for a day) I thought he was just, you know, gormless. It wasn't until later that I realized that he was both batshit and creepy. You should see him work the ladies {shudder}.
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 3:14 PM · Report this
gttrgst 50
@49 What turned me against you was your condemnation of the Grand Jury Refusers. Up until then I gave you the benefit of the doubt as just a blowhard with much various interesting data and a hardon for WiS's armpit, but you've proven to be a way grander PoS.
Posted by gttrgst on February 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM · Report this
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Imagine this comment thread on your Google Glasses as you're walking down the street, riding the bus, biking to work, or climbing K2.

> Or maybe French-Canada as a reasonable second option?

Google: "Jean-Phillipe's Poutine Shack is 402 meters away. Directions?"

> just a blowhard

Google: "Did you mean just a blowjob?"
Posted by rainbird on February 22, 2013 at 5:48 PM · Report this
Free Lunch 52
I don't want to talk to my glasses, but then I'm self-conscious about looking like an asshole in public.

I can't wait for the first time that I hear someone say "okay glass" in a movie theater.

When I can control them with my mind, then I'll be interested.
Posted by Free Lunch on February 22, 2013 at 6:43 PM · Report this
Mike 53
People still take Fnarf seriously? Folks, his chief intellectual nemesis is Will in Seattle. He spends 95% of his time on Slog beating up the tiniest midget there is. This is not a titan of cutting edge thought, this is a guy with problems picking on a guy with even more problems. He is one degree less ridiculous than Will. Ignore them both.
Posted by Mike on February 22, 2013 at 6:45 PM · Report this
Knat 54
I'm loving the Will in Seattle/Fnarf squabble here because I imagine that Fnarf does all his internetting while in the tub, as in his profile pic. I am getting the giggles at the idea of Fnarf calling for Will's destruction by angrily bashing away at his keyboard, bubble bath sloshing everywhere in his rage.

I cannot stop laughing at the image. Apparently I'm more tired than I thought.
Posted by Knat on February 22, 2013 at 7:45 PM · Report this
Fnarf 55
@53, what did I ever do to you? Uh, {squints} Mikey. We've met before, too, haven't we? At some Questionland meetup. Shame you didn't wear your wig. You didn't seem completely stupid there. But you're looking for titans of cutting edge thought on Slog, which isn't a very clever thing to do. But I'll put my contributions here, on a hundred non-Will-in-Seattle-related topics, against anything you've got. A titan? Maybe not. But cleverer than you. Oh, there I go attacking small targets again.

And surely you remember that I had twice as many points on Questionland as any other poster there -- all awarded to me by other readers like yourself, because they liked my answers. I don't remember how many you had. (I remember that Will was the only member in the history of the website with negative points).
Posted by Fnarf http://www.facebook.com/fnarf on February 22, 2013 at 9:48 PM · Report this
Free Lunch 56
@53 - I bother reading WIS posts only when Fnarf is tarring and feathering him. So, uh, "thanks," Fnarf.
Posted by Free Lunch on February 22, 2013 at 11:16 PM · Report this
57
BEST THREAD EVER
Posted by gloomy gus on February 23, 2013 at 6:30 AM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 58
1,

Yes, that is correct. Here is a movie about something sort of similar that would be interesting to develop:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085271/

That said, I expect it to be successful. Within half a year, I expect that Microsoft and Apple will begin making their own versions, which possibly will be better or offer new features. Competition will eventually drive the price down, and once it hits around 100 dollars per pair, they will be as ubiquitous as tablets and smart phones. Design will become important, with an emphasis on making them smaller and lighter.

Applications secondary to porn will include a better ability to find information about people. WA State Patrol already operates a database of criminal records online, which anyone can access called WATCH (https://fortress.wa.gov/wsp/watch/). Imagine if WA State patrol were to use facial recognition software, allowing users to look at someone using Glass and submit their image to WATCH, searching for their record this way instead of by name. This would eliminate the problem of people using aliases. Benefactors would include employers, patrons at singles bars, and security personnel. If, using Glass, I search for your records by your facial image and discover that you have a history of domestic violence, I might choose to leave the bar rather than approach you and introduce myself. It could also enhance background checks for weapons purchases.

So there are some positive applications as well as the standard use of the internet.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on February 23, 2013 at 10:03 AM · Report this
Mike 59
Yes, Fnarf, we've met. And you seemed pleasant, knowledgeable, polite and impolite in entertaining proportions, and well worth hanging out with. It was at a Questionland meetup, which is perhaps not coincidental, because Questionland was really the medium where those characteristics were best rewarded. It's convenient that you mention your status there, which was well earned. On Slog, however, I've much more often found you to be hateful, still knowledgeable but in an insufferably smug way, often condescending even when not addressing Will, possessed of a faith in your own correctness that I typically associate with blowhards and zealots, and with a seemingly unquenchable desire to render yourself indistinguishable from Will by tussling with him as often as you can stomach. You also respond poorly to disagreement and seem incapable of agreeing to disagree, which I realize is probably somewhere near the root of your furious loathing of Will, who is congenitally incapable of agreeing with anybody on anything other than his own merits.

For what it's worth, I've met Will, too, and I agree 100% with your assessments of him. I would choose a repeat of my single in-person experience with you a thousand times before considering a repeat of even ten seconds of any of my unfortunately many in-person experiences with Will. But my agreement with you, and my having met you and enjoyed your company, doesn't alter my assessment of your conduct here. Even on questions like the probably year-old discussion of porn watching in libraries, where it's not hard to see the merits of both sides of the argument, you angrily, condescendingly advanced your own opinion as the only reasonable choice. I recall another instance (although unfortunately not the topic - the behavior was what stands out) where you turned angrily on Matt from Denver for the crime of taking a position that differed from yours, and you expressed stunned surprise that somebody who you had found so agreeable was capable of disagreeing with you, and then you vented your spleen all over him while he remained resolutely polite. Yeesh, come on.

What have you ever done to me, Fnarf? Nothing. But what you've done to your public persona here is pretty ugly. You clearly can be a contributor of great merit, but you're not our pope, and nobody owes you agreement. Nobody, with the possible exception of you, needs to be saved from Will's online presence. I was once asked if either you or Will could exist without the other, and my sad answer was that I'm not sure. That really blows. I wish I had remembered Questionland, because that place was pretty excellent proof that you're almost unimaginably better without Will around, but Questionland is gone and Slog is still around.
More...
Posted by Mike on February 23, 2013 at 10:46 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 60
@ 55, "had"? I dropped out of Questionland a long time ago (too many Seattle-specific topics, things I couldn't participate in any longer), so I didn't know it was gone. How long has it been gone?
Posted by Matt from Denver on February 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM · Report this
dirac 61
"And surely you remember that I had twice as many points on Questionland as any other poster there -- all awarded to me by other readers like yourself, because they liked my answers. I don't remember how many you had. (I remember that Will was the only member in the history of the website with negative points)."
Lol, this is funny and pitiful...but thanks for answering my questions (seriously).
Posted by dirac on February 25, 2013 at 6:27 PM · Report this

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