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Thursday, February 21, 2013

The Universe Will Be Replaced by Another Universe

Posted by on Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:01 AM

One implication of the Higgs boson, which was finally found last year in Geneva (the Higgs being the particle that makes mass possible), is the realization, by mathematical calculation, that a tiny disturbance in the vacuum (nothingness turns out not to be nothing but a kind of ether) could expand into whole and new universe that replaces ours. The BBC:

"It turns out there's a calculation you can do in our Standard Model of particle physics, once you know the mass of the Higgs boson," explained Dr Joseph Lykken. "This bubble will then expand, basically at the speed of light, and sweep everything before it.... If you use all the physics we know now, and you do this straightforward calculation - it's bad news. What happens is you get just a quantum fluctuation that makes a tiny bubble of the vacuum the Universe really wants to be in. And because it's a lower-energy state, this bubble will then expand, basically at the speed of light, and sweep everything before it," the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory theoretician told BBC News.
And do not think that this universe will resemble the one we are in. A slight change in the constants could result in a starless universe.
  • Credit: NASA; ESA; Z. Levay and R. van der Marel, STScI; T. Hallas; and A. Mellinger)


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seatackled 1
Douglas Adams already covered this.
Posted by seatackled on February 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 2
Charles, this is what you're looking for. There are a lot of maybes and what-ifs to get there, but if we're going to have a doomsday, there are more shitty ways to go out than this:

False vacuum:…

In quantum field theory, a false vacuum is a metastable sector of space that appears to be a perturbative vacuum, but is unstable due to instanton effects that may tunnel to a lower energy state. This tunneling can be caused by quantum fluctuations or the creation of high-energy particles. Simply put, the false vacuum is a local minimum, but not the lowest energy state, even though it may remain stable for some time. This is analogous to metastability for first-order phase transitions.

A hypothetical vacuum metastability event would be theoretically possible if our universe were part of a metastable (false) vacuum in the first place, an issue that is highly theoretical and far from resolved. A false vacuum is one that appears stable, and is stable within certain limits and conditions, but is capable of being disrupted and entering a different state which is more stable. In theory and if this were the case, a bubble of lower-energy vacuum could come to exist by chance or otherwise in our universe, and catalyze the conversion of our universe to a lower energy state in a volume expanding at nearly the speed of light, destroying all that we know without forewarning. Chaotic Inflation theory suggests that the universe may be in either a false vacuum or a true vacuum state.

Some more cheerful reading:…
Posted by Joe Szilagyi on February 21, 2013 at 8:40 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 3
jesus would never let this happen to white people.
Posted by Max Solomon on February 21, 2013 at 8:47 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 4
Will cesium 133 still decay at the same rate? Because spacetime will still exist, right?. Hydrogen would still have to form for there to be anything in a universe. Including light speed.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on February 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM · Report this
Uh. Oh. Who disturbed Shiva's meditation?

Luckily the universe is a big place and even if the bubble of our universe "pops" at the speed of light probability is that it will not happen immediately adjacent to us and thus still take perhaps millions or billions of years for our protons to instantly decay.

Unless, of course, it has already happened a billion years ago and t
Posted by tkc on February 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 6
@5 I see what you did ther
Posted by Joe Szilagyi on February 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM · Report this
ScrawnyKayaker 7
This is not something that should keep you up at night worrying. A gamma ray burst from Eta Carinae, on the other hand...
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker on February 21, 2013 at 10:01 AM · Report this
ScrawnyKayaker 8
JK. The burst axis probably isn't aimed close enough to be lethal.
Posted by ScrawnyKayaker on February 21, 2013 at 10:02 AM · Report this
treacle 9
That simple calculation is based on the preliminary data surrounding the "Higgs-like" particle. It will take many more LHC tests to fully confirm the exact details of the Higgs, and until then, we won't have the answer to the calculation. I'm not holding my breath.

Although it's cool to think that instead of the universe contracting into some sort of infinite point, and then exploding again in another Big Bang, that some sort of freaky alternate-universe bubble inflates from within the current one. Is that how our started? Are we a bubble inside of another, even larger, Universe? Are there many of these bubbles?

Everything keeps getting weirder the more we look. Really gives one hope!
Posted by treacle on February 21, 2013 at 10:10 AM · Report this
treacle 10
@7 One should only worry about things that one has the capability to actually do anything about. Gamma ray bursts, universe bubbles, errant meteors leveling your city, Godzilla... not much you can do to prepare for or prevent these.
What, me worry? Nah.
Posted by treacle on February 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM · Report this
@9, treacle is correct and on target.

Personally, I'm not buying all this fantasy physics stuff until the proof is in!

Like Prof. Albrecht says, there's simply too much theory based upon theory based upon theory without the underlying proof --- reminds one of the similar fantasy finance sector today!

The OMG particle, the Higgs-Boson, still requires far more proof of its existence --- and its involvement in the origin of the universe.

Smolin of the Perimeter Institute of Canada still makes the most sense in my book.

Posted by sgt_doom on February 21, 2013 at 10:43 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 12
@10 a universe liquefying sort of finale to things would be a sort of hilarious irony, though, for the "prepper" community. Oh, you spent the last 30 years sinking half of your life and resources into a lead lined bunker with food, water, medical supplies, and enough ammunition to survive 30 years of a nightmare The Road or The Walking Dead type scenario?

...sorry, the Earth just slipped behind the edge of a black hole's event horizon. Your entire solar system and frame of reference will be turning into spaghetti in 5... 4... 3...
Posted by Joe Szilagyi on February 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM · Report this

We're having an interesting discussion about the Russian Meteor from an electric universe perspective over at…
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on February 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM · Report this
Fuck this universe.

We need a new one with no gloomy Seattle winters...
Posted by CPN on February 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM · Report this
Furthermore, if you're one of 'those people' who happily blather on about how much you love the rain and the gloom, fuck you too.

Now I'm going to go to the butterfly house to feel better...and then some vodka.
Posted by CPN on February 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM · Report this

I figured out why I love the rain.

It's because when it's sunny, I feel I have to "do something". I have to "get out and enjoy the sunshine". Those things take work, and money.

If it's gloomy, I can say, "oh, I will just stay inside. It's too gloomy today".
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on February 21, 2013 at 11:59 AM · Report this
Sandiai 17
That picture is great. And it also happens to be an accurate depiction of what the night sky will look like…

in a few billion years.
Posted by Sandiai on February 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM · Report this

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