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Thursday, February 14, 2013

Politics / Enviro Gun Nuts Not the Only Nuts

Posted by Chicago Fan on Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Anti-climate-change conspiracy nuts funded by . . . wait for it. . . right-wing dark money! I love the Guardian.

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guardian, schmardian. you love frontline. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/…

Posted by frontline on February 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM

And this surprises who...?

Posted by Pope Peabrain on February 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM

@2 It shouldn't surprise us but it bears repeating considering the stakes and the likely actors behind the denial campaign (fossil fuel industry).

Posted by anon1256 on February 14, 2013 at 6:51 PM

@3 The hypocrisy of these groups talking about "personal responsibility" when they, themselves, are so blatantly irresponsible is mind boggling. Clearly and as usual they exempt themselves from taking any responsibility.

Posted by Pope Peabrain on February 15, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Prove to me, right now, definitively, that "Global Warming" is man-made as opposed to just a cycle in the earth's cycle.

I'm waiting...

Time's up. That is right, you CAN'T prove it. Now go on with your little recycling and save-the-monkey campaigns and leave us alone. The evil capitalist Al Gore has you in his grips.

Posted by GeneStoner on February 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM

@5 We now have a vast array of instruments, spread across the globe in oceans, lands, winds and space. Thousands of the most brilliant minds have compiled mountains of data and concur there is a real problem. That's enough for me.

Posted by Pope Peabrain on February 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM

@5 The Society of Petroleum Engineers officially supports the human origins of global warming.

Posted by Give up your delusions on February 15, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Yes, and the instruments affirm that there is some global warming. But they do not prove WHY.

Probably just one of earth's cycles. Hot and cold just like a woman...

Get over it and get back to work.

Posted by GeneStoner on February 15, 2013 at 2:36 PM

@5 and 8: You can start here if you're really interested in an answer to your question.

Short answer: This research has already been done. The resulting models account for observed data and are internally consistent. If you think something else is going on, it is now up to you to provide a superior alternative explanation for why warming is occurring. Here's how you can accomplish this: Identify the mechanism behind this natural cycle, and explain why drastically increased C02 levels have no effect on temperature, in spite of the fact that every working model predicts otherwise.

Bonus points if you can manage to provide an explanation that does not once mention Al Gore.

Posted by Proteus on February 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM