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News The Morning News: Obama Is Expected to Deliver Immigration Reform Plan and Women Scare a Robber by Chanting 'Jesus'
Posted by Megan Seling on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Obama's Immigration Reform Plan: "President Barack Obama is expected to lay out his principles for immigration reform in a speech in Las Vegas today that will include a potentially quicker path to citizenship than the bipartisan plan a group of senators unveiled earlier this week."
The Conflict Rages in Egypt: Officials are worried about a "collapse of the state."
Very Sad: The man killed by police, and the woman he shot in Twilight Exit, apparently "fought all the time."
Apple Introduces the 128 GB iPad: With a retina display.
The Best Way to Get Rid of a Robber: A man tried to rob a house in Florida, during a jewelry party, and...
"When I realized what was going on, I stood up and said, 'In the name of Jesus, get out of my house now,'” Hagler told WJXT-TV. "And he said, 'I'm going to shoot someone.' And I said it again, real boldly," Hagler continued. "Everybody started chanting, 'Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,' and he did a quick scan of the room and ran out the door as fast as he could go."
That's amazing.
A Nevada Republican Was Arrested for Voter Fraud: She claims she was trying to "show how easy it is to commit voter fraud." She sounds like a genius.
How Do You Say "Fuck Yeah!" in French?: "On Tuesday, the French parliament is set to begin mulling a reform bill that would legalize gay marriage..."
"Scores" of Bodies Found in Syria: UGH.
The Defense Lawyer Expects Verdicts in the Delhi Gang-Rape Trial "Very Soon": UGH. Again.
Seattle, I Thought We Had Something!: Apparently the NHL has the smallest amount of sports fans in the city, getting beat by NASCAR, even? C'mon! Hockey is awesome.
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@35,
The "Armed Citizen" section of the NRA's magazine (my dad was a member and I read it as a kid) reads mostly like news snippets, although occasionally there are penthouse-forum-esque letters too.
http://www.nrapublications.org/index.php…
The "Armed Citizen" section of the NRA's magazine (my dad was a member and I read it as a kid) reads mostly like news snippets, although occasionally there are penthouse-forum-esque letters too.
http://www.nrapublications.org/index.php…
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@35,
I'd also like to know, among the numbers of gun owners who tried to stop a crime, how many successfully stopped the crime, how many tried to stop the crime but failed, and how many got shot with their own gun or the gun of the perpetrator. I'd also like to see data on how many gun owners illegally use lethal force to stop a criminal, such as a gun owner using a gun to stop shoplifting or another type of crime that never calls for lethal force.
I'd also like to know, among the numbers of gun owners who tried to stop a crime, how many successfully stopped the crime, how many tried to stop the crime but failed, and how many got shot with their own gun or the gun of the perpetrator. I'd also like to see data on how many gun owners illegally use lethal force to stop a criminal, such as a gun owner using a gun to stop shoplifting or another type of crime that never calls for lethal force.
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@32,33, the results suggest an irregularity - like your naked bodies, it suggests that something is seriously fucked up.
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Phoebe, please tell whoever helps you type to stop now. I am interested in data. Data that one side wants to keep hidden.
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The Seattle Times calling Twilight Exit a "popular Central District nightclub" makes them sound 100 years old.
@35 - I never knew about the NRA mag crime report thing. In retrospect, do you think they were legit reports, or did it read like more of a Penthouse Forum for gun lovers?
@35 - I never knew about the NRA mag crime report thing. In retrospect, do you think they were legit reports, or did it read like more of a Penthouse Forum for gun lovers?
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My father belonged to the NRA, back when it wasn't chock-full-o' nuts. I read the magazine, I know about the first inside page, it used to be called 'The Armed Citizen' and it detailed all the cases where someone with a gun stopped a crime. There'd be about twenty items each month.
So I'm curious to compare the two figures. How many actual crimes does an NRA member truly thwart, versus how many end up enraged and shooting a co-worker, loved one, or bystander.
The NRA already quashed Dr. Rivara's attempt to do a similar study, so we know they already believe there is something scary in the data.
So I'm curious to compare the two figures. How many actual crimes does an NRA member truly thwart, versus how many end up enraged and shooting a co-worker, loved one, or bystander.
The NRA already quashed Dr. Rivara's attempt to do a similar study, so we know they already believe there is something scary in the data.
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@Phoebe: You are surprised any and every time one of those things we call "facts" intrudes on your ditzy little world.
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Surveys says iPad minis are selling like hotcakes.
And rumors that hedge funds are buying up distressed homes in Seattle area.
And rumors that hedge funds are buying up distressed homes in Seattle area.
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@25
"Why not look at shootings overall?"
Sure.
But only after the shootings have been converted to nice, sanitized statistics.
Individually, as long as the shootings are confined to someone else in someplace else they can be ignored.
But I do agree with #5 on most points BUT FOR EVERY SHOOTING INCIDENT (even wounding or just firing a gun inside the city).
Where did the shooter get them?
Any of them acquired illegally?
Any via the gun-show loophole?
Acquired recently? Or a long-time gun owner?
Law enforcement background?
AND
Magazine capacity.
Gun type (revolver, semi-automatic pistol, rifle, etc).
The point being to illustrate how the MAJORITY (over 50%) of shootings will not be impacted at all by the "reasonable" restrictions being suggested.
"Why not look at shootings overall?"
Sure.
But only after the shootings have been converted to nice, sanitized statistics.
Individually, as long as the shootings are confined to someone else in someplace else they can be ignored.
But I do agree with #5 on most points BUT FOR EVERY SHOOTING INCIDENT (even wounding or just firing a gun inside the city).
Where did the shooter get them?
Any of them acquired illegally?
Any via the gun-show loophole?
Acquired recently? Or a long-time gun owner?
Law enforcement background?
AND
Magazine capacity.
Gun type (revolver, semi-automatic pistol, rifle, etc).
The point being to illustrate how the MAJORITY (over 50%) of shootings will not be impacted at all by the "reasonable" restrictions being suggested.
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Agree with Matt that the survey seems off. I think basketball is a lot higher in Seattle, and maybe not so much in Tacoma.
I think people like games they played or watched as kids. Where there's a lot of kids playing hockey, it's more popular. Where there's been a team for years, it's more popular. With that said, our beer league is second in size in the country, there's two junior teams and the Sounders seem to have built an audience in their second life.
I think people like games they played or watched as kids. Where there's a lot of kids playing hockey, it's more popular. Where there's been a team for years, it's more popular. With that said, our beer league is second in size in the country, there's two junior teams and the Sounders seem to have built an audience in their second life.
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"Your search - Roxanne Rubin site:foxnews.com - did not match any documents."
I'm SHOCKED I tell you, shocked!
I'm SHOCKED I tell you, shocked!
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I wonder how big a role projection plays in fans? Do the most ardent fans see themselves on the field?
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Skating after a puck looks like fun but the culture of violence in hockey is likely unnecessary and just plain disgusting. I can't stand watching crowds hooping it up. It makes my skin crawl.
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@5,
The vast majority of shootings are black males shooting other black males.
So what do you think are the likely answers to your questions?
Or did you only want to focus on domestic violence shootings? If so, why? Why not look at shootings overall?
The vast majority of shootings are black males shooting other black males.
So what do you think are the likely answers to your questions?
Or did you only want to focus on domestic violence shootings? If so, why? Why not look at shootings overall?
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Vancouver BC rarely freezes, but its NHL hockey venue, Rogers Arena, has regularly sold-out Canucks games.
NHL is not awesome. Gary Bettman sucks. Try to follow a hockey league that doesn't have a commissioner with a record of lockouts and cancelled seasons.
NHL is not awesome. Gary Bettman sucks. Try to follow a hockey league that doesn't have a commissioner with a record of lockouts and cancelled seasons.
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Also, here's a good editorial on Marriage Equality in Rhode Island, which just passed the House by a huge margin while the Senate is dragging it's heels.
Also, an unscientific poll in which (at this time) more people have voted against marriage equality than for it. Everyone should go and vote!
http://www.heraldnews.com/newsnow/x19593…
Also, an unscientific poll in which (at this time) more people have voted against marriage equality than for it. Everyone should go and vote!
http://www.heraldnews.com/newsnow/x19593…
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@10: Thank you, that made my morning.
@17: She should be used as an example of what happens when you imbibe too much Fox News with no other input to help normalize your worldview.
@17: She should be used as an example of what happens when you imbibe too much Fox News with no other input to help normalize your worldview.
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According to translation.baylon.com, the phrase in the above mentioned poll translates to:
Marriage for all: does the law represent a projection for the children's rights?
Oui!
Marriage for all: does the law represent a projection for the children's rights?
Oui!
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Here's live coverage of French parliament.
There's also a very scientific poll on the right hand side of the page. I think we are to vote "Oui", right?
http://www.lcp.fr/
There's also a very scientific poll on the right hand side of the page. I think we are to vote "Oui", right?
http://www.lcp.fr/
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Here's the best coverage of France's move towards marriage equality:
http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed
http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed
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Regarding the Arizona Republican tool who got arrested for voter fraud - I can't gloat. This is not a case of an asshole caught in her own trap. Instead, this is a case of a dupe who bought too much of the mythology and rhetoric that her abusers were pushing.
The Republican party leaders pretended that their concern was voter fraud when it was really voter suppression. Only a true believing idiot would buy that line. This true believing idiot did. She should be an object of pity, not scorn.
The Republican party leaders pretended that their concern was voter fraud when it was really voter suppression. Only a true believing idiot would buy that line. This true believing idiot did. She should be an object of pity, not scorn.
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@11-12: you're right, though, that having freezing conditions probably makes for a stronger hockey culture, amateur players, etc. Even if LA or Tampa Bay can afford good arenas and teams.
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Actually, I do need to correct myself @ 11 - the Phoenix Coyotes have been a pretty good team in recent years, and they're still doing poorly at their box office. But the NHL has really been trying to get pro hockey established there, and it's still possible that they'll succeed if the team's good fortunes continue. But it will never be as big as any of the other big teams sports.
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@ 6, pretty sure Anaheim doesn't have a real big hockey base. Their success comes from having a good team, because good teams will always sell tickets, no matter what sport you're talking about. Let's check back when they become mediocre, as happens to every team after a while.
Also, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it turned out that NASCAR was more popular there, too.
Also, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it turned out that NASCAR was more popular there, too.
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Don't try to frighten us with your polar sports, Ms Seling. Your sad devotion to that ancient winter activity has not helped you conjure up a major league franchise, or given you enough clairvoyance to find a new skating rink.
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I'm pretty sure that if I were trying to burgle a house, bursting in on a whole "jewelry party" in progress would scare me off MORE than enough by itself - no matter what they all started chanting.
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Microsoft released it's newest version of Office that won't work on the vast majority of tablets and smartphones on the market today.
Talk about brilliant business planning.....NOT
Talk about brilliant business planning.....NOT
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Wait. Jesus is more powerful than a gun? Maybe the gun nuts just run around chanting, "Jesus!" Sure, it would be annoying, but not as deadly.
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Re the Twilight Exit shooter- someone really should follow up on these recurring 'angry shooter' stories where a DV situation turns violent and a fireaem is used.
Was the shooter an NRA member?
How many guns did the shooter have?
Where did the shooter get them?
Any of them acquired illegally?
Any via the gun-show loophole?
Acquired recently? Or a long-time gun owner?
Law enforcement background?
The story notes that the nut with a gun was 'a very nice guy'. They almost always are, according to at least one source. The nutter concept that a 'good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun' would be shredded quickly, I think, if we had more data.
The 'good guy with a gun' is a mythical creature that does not exist.
Was the shooter an NRA member?
How many guns did the shooter have?
Where did the shooter get them?
Any of them acquired illegally?
Any via the gun-show loophole?
Acquired recently? Or a long-time gun owner?
Law enforcement background?
The story notes that the nut with a gun was 'a very nice guy'. They almost always are, according to at least one source. The nutter concept that a 'good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun' would be shredded quickly, I think, if we had more data.
The 'good guy with a gun' is a mythical creature that does not exist.
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The French translation for "fuck yeah" shall henceforth be "très bien!"
When we watch English subtitled francophone films, let us now see "Fuck yeah!" appearing on screen with regularity.
When we watch English subtitled francophone films, let us now see "Fuck yeah!" appearing on screen with regularity.
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The NHL has few fans in a city that rarely freezes? That's not that surprising, especially if they mean "the Puget Sound region" when they say "Seattle." Which they must, if NASCAR is more popular. (I recall some failed effort to get NASCAR to come to Western Washington when I lived there, so either it's not that popular either, or they wanted some giveaway that local pols realized wasn't worth it - it's not MLB or NFL, after all.)
Regarding "Jesus," that just shows the power of unity. They could have been chanting "assfuck" and it would have scared off the robber just the same.
Regarding "Jesus," that just shows the power of unity. They could have been chanting "assfuck" and it would have scared off the robber just the same.
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I have always hated apples lack of SD micro, and up the pipe for a few measly gigs.And no, I don't want to use the cloud.
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