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Thursday, January 24, 2013

City Hall at Capacity for Pot Rule-Making Hearing

Posted by on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM

More than 300 people are jammed into the Bertha Knight Landes Room at City Hall, and another 200 people are upstairs in the Council Chamber watching the hearing on a television monitor. Plus there are dozens more in the lobby at tonight's event, the liquor board's first Seattle hearing for the rules to regulate a legal marijuana industry (pursuant to Initiative 502 that passed in November). It's not just pot heads... it's damn everyone:

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I've never seen this many people at City Hall for anything.

"This has never happened, never been implemented in the world," said Washington State Liquor Control Board chair Sharon Foster, referring to her task of crafting a complete seed-to-joint marijuana industry. She's sitting up front along with the liquor board's other two members, Ruthann Kurose and Chris Marr.

Since so many people are signed up to speak, the board says anyone who uses less than two minutes earns a "brownie point."

 

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Will in Seattle 19
@2 for the Grant Cogswell Polar Bear win.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 25, 2013 at 10:29 AM · Report this
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@15, dutchie wrote, "@6 weed is not legal here, use is legal, personal possession is decriminalized and sale to to the public is "gedoogd" (legally tolerated) when it happens in the coffeeshops, growing and wholesale are still very very illegal here."

What? Weed is not legal or illegal anywhere. Laws apply to people, not to plants. Previously, it was unlawful for adults to be in posession of any quantity the cannabis plant in Washington. Now, there is no law barring posession of small amounts by adults. We didn't just decriminalize (to change from criminal act to civil infraction); we legalized.
Posted by Phil M http://twitter.com/pmocek on January 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 17
11,

Currently, we are not ahead of any state anywhere on the planet. As the law exists, it is illegal to purchase or sell marijuana from anyone other than a state-licensed store. Since there are no state-licensed stores anywhere, it is effectively illegal to buy or sell pot.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on January 25, 2013 at 7:01 AM · Report this
tainte 16
as a medical patient i have to say...meh. i likes my pot tax free. guess i'll have to start growing.
Posted by tainte on January 25, 2013 at 5:57 AM · Report this
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@ 6 weed is not legal here, use is legal, personal possession is decriminalized and sale to to the public is "gedoogd" (legally tolerated) when it happens in the coffeeshops, growing and wholesale are still very very illegal here.
a typical dutch arrangement where everybody looses except the mob and the individual buyer.
Posted by dutchie on January 25, 2013 at 3:28 AM · Report this
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I was at the meeting it was very constructive. Other than a few happy old longhairs which the news media put on tv, the regular guy was predominant. People had very concrete questions and suggestions for the liquor board to solve real problems with vagueness of the new law. And since the press was there in full force, the issues brought up will be creating "legs" for this story for a while.

By the way folks, we will licensed to start growing in August of this year....
Posted by Oldeastsider on January 24, 2013 at 10:31 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 13
It was SRO in Olympia on Tuesday as well. They announced that they were going to hold a second meeting.

This is precisely what I envisioned when I argued w/ a lot of the anti-502 stoners. They bitched & moaned about DUIs, when I knew that passing this would bring the issue out in the open. People would come out and everyone would see how so many people want this stupid 'drug war' to end.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on January 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM · Report this
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Nice pic. The White Folks sure are excited about pot. What else do we need to legalize to get some diversity?
Posted by gator bait on January 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM · Report this
Ballard Pimp 11
So, @2, since you have such contempt for our process, show me a state that's ahead of us.
Posted by Ballard Pimp on January 24, 2013 at 10:17 PM · Report this
Chris Govella 10
I wonder how many people showed up to make pot related puns in their testimonies. I'm going to guess “four twentii"
Posted by Chris Govella http://blog.chrisgovella.net on January 24, 2013 at 10:11 PM · Report this
rezbilly 9
Check ou the diversity in that room!
Posted by rezbilly on January 24, 2013 at 10:06 PM · Report this
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@6 The Netherlands have a system of tolerance. Nothing like we're about to pull off here in WA. This is the first jurisdiction with fully-legal (in limited quantity, for adults) cannabis since it was first prohibited.
Posted by Phil M http://twitter.com/pmocek on January 24, 2013 at 9:29 PM · Report this
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"This has never happened, never been implemented in the world," said Washington State Liquor Control Board chair Sharon Foster

Didn't The Netherlands implement legalization in the early 80's. I'm concerned that someone who says it "never happened" is making up rules when there is precedent out there.
Posted by BayouBoy on January 24, 2013 at 9:21 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 5
I have a feeling (not pot induced) that Washington is going to really upset the turnip truck with all of this. Washington will set the foundation for a freer and more progressive America. The Mexican drug lords might send their drug angels up here to snoop about, but we'll have to see.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on January 24, 2013 at 8:16 PM · Report this
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'Seed-to-joint" is very nice.
Posted by sarah70 on January 24, 2013 at 8:10 PM · Report this
David Thompson 3
If you can't make it to these meetings you can send your comments via email to this email address:

rules@liq.wa.gov

Your comments will be shared with the board and considered during the rulemaking process.
Posted by David Thompson on January 24, 2013 at 7:57 PM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 2
The Seattle Process is defines as: Consensus through exhaustion".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_pro…

An example: The voters have approved extending the monorail four times via referenda. Not one inch of track has been laid in spite of this.

State of Washington will be in a precarious position if it ever opens any of the state licensed stores called for in 502. This would effectively put the state itself in violation of federal law on a very grand scale. Even if Obama chooses not to enforce current drug policy in WA, he's only President until January 2017. The next administration might not be so lenient.

So, how can the state both comply with 502 and stay out of trouble with the federales? By applying the Seattle Process to I-502. We will hold an infinite number of neverending meetings on how the rules are to be drafted and implemented, never coming to a conclusion because of a few dissenting voices here and there. Of course, we want to comply with 502, but 502 states that the rules must be written before they are implemented. If the rule making process continues for eternity, not one store will ever open and the feds will be content.

In other words, the first state run marijuana store will open at the brand new monorail stop in West Seattle. It will be named after Grant Cogswell.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on January 24, 2013 at 7:50 PM · Report this
GhostDog 1
So if people get enough "brownie points", are they redeemable for actual "brownies"?

And are those brownies like the ones from earlier today?

Damn I need to visit Seattle someday.
Posted by GhostDog on January 24, 2013 at 7:47 PM · Report this

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