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Wednesday, January 16, 2013

The American Horror

Posted by on Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM

The picture for this CNN post, CNN/Time Poll: Slight dip in support for gun control measures in last month, speaks to all of my fears. Those men, those machine guns, those ugly lights. This is a room in hell.

 

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I realize you're just trolling, but seriously - what machine guns?
Posted by randoma on January 16, 2013 at 2:50 PM · Report this
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@1, "I realize YOU'RE just trolling, but seriously"

Machine guns are generally categorized as submachine guns, machine guns, or autocannons. Submachine guns are hand-held small portable automatic weapons for personal defense or short-range combat firing pistol-caliber rounds.
Posted by But Seriously? on January 16, 2013 at 3:01 PM · Report this
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Dude. It's just a gun store. We have several of them in this area. You could go visit one right now and exercise your constitutional right to own a rifle.

also - what machine guns?

Posted by Neurotic Cat on January 16, 2013 at 3:05 PM · Report this
Lew Siffer 4
When emotion is replaced with logic, of course there will be a dip.
Posted by Lew Siffer on January 16, 2013 at 3:06 PM · Report this
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Then go the fuck home to that country in Hell you came from, Tonderai of the mountain.
Posted by Stranger'sWorstNightmare on January 16, 2013 at 3:09 PM · Report this
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I vote #5 as the leading candidate for Seattle's next psycho shooter.

Anyway, Americans are lazy, stupid, fearful and violent. Even at the speed legislators are working on laws that should have happened years ago, that lazy, stupid, fearful violence will murder the few morals that show up with each mass murder.
Posted by mubhappy on January 16, 2013 at 3:21 PM · Report this
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I'm afraid that, like most Seattle "progressives," Chuckie has no idea what the difference is between a semi-automatic and an automatic weapon, or that, say, the old six-shooters of the Wild West were semi-automatics.
Posted by Mister G on January 16, 2013 at 3:30 PM · Report this
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@6: Nah, that little bitch doesn't have the stones. He just fantasizes.
Posted by NateMan on January 16, 2013 at 3:30 PM · Report this
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Not that shooters have any stones, I should add.
Posted by NateMan on January 16, 2013 at 3:32 PM · Report this
lauramae 10
And look the comments reflect the sort of thing you refer to in that store.
Posted by lauramae on January 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM · Report this
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@2 which of those guns in the pic are fully automatic?
Posted by GermanSausage on January 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 12
And pictures like this speaks to all the fears of anti-gay bigots.

I'll say the same thing to you that I'd say to them:
Calm down Charles. They're not out to get you.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on January 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM · Report this
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Americans have strong opinions on things they don't understand, news at 11.

Banning semi-automatic weapons? We've had semi-automatic weapons since 1885. They're not the problem here.

"Clips"? Do these people even do basic research into vocabulary before writing articles?

Or my favorite, the "gun show loophole". Guess what: Sellers at gun shows are FFLs. They are required to do (and do) background checks.

Or, my favorite, "assault weapons". Assault weapons are banned/highly regulated. They have been since 1934. Those scary things you see on the wall?" Those are rifles that, short of cosmetics, function no differently from a semi-automatic "hunting rifle". The primary difference is the black vs brown color.
Posted by B^2 on January 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM · Report this
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What's just kind of sad is how the "progressives," in their resolute refusal to actually learn anything about guns have overlooked a powerful and important argument against assault style weapons and high capacity magazines. Oh well. Fuck 'em.
Posted by Mister G on January 16, 2013 at 3:57 PM · Report this
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#13, you and I know how easy it is to skirt the automatic weapons ban. But I promise not to tell anyone at the Slog the details, because, let's face it, facts aren't exactly the "progressive" bailiwick.
Posted by Mister G on January 16, 2013 at 4:09 PM · Report this
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Also, #13, it's not exactly talking out of school to point out that plenty of gun shows allow sales by unlicensed, private sellers, and that such unregulated sales make up 25% to 50% of the volume at a typical show. Washington State's shows tend to be more tightly controlled, but that's not true in many other places.

Now before you think I'm some slobbering "progressive," I'm not. I have little but disdain for the idiots of the Slog, and the equivalents. But don't sit there and pretend that the only people who sell at gun shows are FFLs, because it's not true and we both know it.
Posted by Mister G on January 16, 2013 at 4:18 PM · Report this
Cascadian Bacon 17
As usual Charles comes out against guns, when they are not in the hands of Communist guerrillas murdering whites. The kind of murder his dear old father Ebenezer use to support. You remember the Vumba Massacre Chuck? 12 people including children beaten, raped murdered with bayonets all in the name of Marxism.



Posted by Cascadian Bacon on January 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM · Report this
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Whatever. He is totally correct about those ugly lights. Ugly, ugly, ugly. And dated. They were cool in people's remodelled kitchens in 1985.
Posted by originalcinner on January 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM · Report this
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 19
Whatever. Pissing contest over who said "clip" or "magazine". Geeks.

The poll says there is still overwhelming support for the roster of common sense steps Obama outlined. The NRA is losing, badly. The NRA is the criminal's best friend, and the enemy of democracy. Gun nuts need to clean up their act, quick.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on January 16, 2013 at 5:42 PM · Report this
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"Overwheming" support? Not quite, #19. He's got bare majorities on some of the steps, and they are fading.
Posted by Mister G on January 16, 2013 at 6:12 PM · Report this
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My favorite part of the whole article is ""Those changes are likely due to the passage of time, as the initial shock of the Newtown tragedy has begun to wear off, and may indicate why the White House has put the gun issue on a fast track," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland."

Because using a tragedy to rush through legislation quick before people have the time to sit back, think about it a bit, and realize that it's an overreaction is a great strategy. After all, it got us the PATRIOT act, so why not try it again?
Posted by B^2 on January 16, 2013 at 6:24 PM · Report this
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 22
@20

Yeah, you tell yourself that. You live in your bubble. Just like Romeny's deluded camp.

I really don't get why right wingers think they can build campaigns on faulty data. The essence of strategy is non-partisan. No matter how you view human nature, anyone who is serious about winning wants facts, not cheerleading.

I guess the real wackos want to lose, so they can crawl into their bunker and curl up with their rifle and dream of a glorious last stand. Maybe get raptured. Creeps.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on January 16, 2013 at 6:49 PM · Report this
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@7,

Not to get all picayune and gun-nutty on you, but double action revolvers aren't technically semi-automatic pistols except to the extent that they fire every time you pull the trigger. Also, the revolvers used in the old west were mostly single-action, which meant that you had manually cock the hammer between each shot. The mechanisms are different, and while they have invented speedloading devices for revolvers they are generally slower to use than the detachable magazines used by semi-automatic pistols.

@13,

Semiautomatic paramilitary assault rifles are indeed different than most semiautomatic hunting rifles - the barrels are shorter (which trades off being easier to conceal/maneuver in urban and other combat situations vs. long range accuracy) and they have detachable magazines that can hold a whole lot more bullets than, say, a Browning Automatic Rifle (not the military version) or a hunter's Remington. Splitting hairs over whether they have selective fire capability like military assault rifles kind of glosses over those facts - and they are facts.

That said, the legislation in New York that bans every gun with a capacity of over 7 shots pretty much banned almost every gun designed in the last 100 years - and also bans current owners from having them. In my view that goes much too far - and actually is the sort of "gun grab" that frothing right wingers are accusing Obama of (the proposed federal legislation is much more reasonable, though I think the roots of American gun violence go a lot deeper than whether people are allowed to have paramilitary semiautomatic rifles, Glocks with 15 round magazines, etc, and that it probably won't make much of a difference in the number of gun deaths in the US. It sure won't matter much to criminals who use guns, because last I checked, using a gun illegally is already, well, illegal).
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Posted by Mr. X on January 17, 2013 at 8:37 AM · Report this
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double action revolvers aren't technically semi-automatic pistols except to the extent that they fire every time you pull the trigger

That's what "semi automatic" means, moron.
Posted by Mister G on January 18, 2013 at 2:20 AM · Report this

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