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Sunday, January 6, 2013

Apparently, It's Time for Football

Posted by on Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Everybody in Seattle gives a shit about football all of a sudden! The bars are packed, and people all over town are dressed in that blue and hideous green. In an amazing coincidence, Seattle's sudden love for football happens to have erupted at the exact same time that Seattle's football team, the Seahawks, are doing really well. Who could possibly have predicted that?

The Seahawks are right now playing the most racist team in football. Will they win? Will they lose? I don't know! I never learned the rules of football. I know it involves "downs" and "kicking" and "touchdowns" and "tackles." But it's fundamentally a mystery to me. Someone tell me what happens in the end, please; I'm going to go read a book and drink a nice cup of tea.

 

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heywhatsit!? 1
If you care so little, why take the time to write this post? I couldn't care less about the Seahawks but this kind of shit really annoys me. That was probably your point.
Posted by heywhatsit!? on January 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM · Report this
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I love it when smug pseudo-intellectuals like Paul publicly deride something that they admit to not understand.

Go get a bigger high horse.
Posted by jeffinfremont on January 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM · Report this
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HEY PAUL NO FAIR WEATHER FANS HERE SEATTLE FANS ARE LEGIT
Posted by Seattle14 on January 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM · Report this
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Ditto @1: I also have no real idea of the rules of football, but I recognize that as an weakness rather than something to be proud of. Bragging that you don't understand something is always sad, whether you're saying you don't need to understand that high-falutin' "science" or those plebeian "sports."
Posted by Fr0zt on January 6, 2013 at 1:54 PM · Report this
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First of all, yes, it's an incredibly racist name. We've been asking the owner to change it for years, he's a douche and refuses. Second, 14-0 and its still the first quarter. Now will Seahawks fans start taking Alfred Morris seriously? Because he's running all over the defense you are so proud of.
Posted by i don't know on January 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM · Report this
south downtown 7
in other news, Hank Williams Jr is still a fucking meathead
Posted by south downtown on January 6, 2013 at 2:22 PM · Report this
Olo 8
Seeing The Hobbit for the second time, this time at 48FPS. You ain't seen racism until you watch a performance in beardface.
Posted by Olo on January 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 9
@1 Yeah, we get breathless updates about the NHL, a league that Seattle has *never* been a part of, and for a team that has been quite a storied participant in Seattle's history for 35+ years, Slog offers up posts about how much he doesn't care.

Is it too much difficulty to find a Stranger staffer to post about the Hawks? Fuck, even Chicago Fan would do.

And for criminy's sake, send Megan to post on some blog in Canada where her NHL-lust would be welcome.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on January 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 10
Yeah, fuck you, Paul! How dare you not treat football with a degree of reverence you never give anything else?
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on January 6, 2013 at 2:38 PM · Report this
Asparagus! 11
Hey now everybody, let's give Paul some credit. This post may be a big pseudo-intellectual, self-superior jerkoff, but at least it's not a halfassed repost of a 2 day old post from another blog!
Posted by Asparagus! on January 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM · Report this
lark 12
My favorite "fight song" is "Bear Down" for the Chicago Bears written by Jerry Downs in 1941:

"Bear down, Chicago Bears, make every play clear the way to victory.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, put up a fight with a might so fearlessly.
We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation with your T formation.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, and let them know why you're wearing the crown.
You're the pride and joy of Illinois, Chicago Bears, Bear down"

Relatively benign but clever. The Chicago Blackhawks also have a fight though I can't remember the name ("Here Come the Hawks"?). It's a charm, the fight song of some of the old professional sports' franchises. They emanate from college varsity sport teams' cheer/fight songs.
Posted by lark on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM · Report this
matt 13
I skip the posts I don't like. Try it out.
Posted by matt on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM · Report this
Gern Blanston 14
Nice recovery after a bad start by the Hawks. 14-13 Washington at halftime.
Posted by Gern Blanston on January 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM · Report this
care bear 15
SPORTSBALLS!
Posted by care bear on January 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM · Report this
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NFL - where the average gameplay is around 10.5 minutes and 70 minutes of commentary

fuck that shit
Posted by six five on January 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM · Report this
care bear 17
But seriously, go Hawks! We've got some momentum now.
Posted by care bear on January 6, 2013 at 3:05 PM · Report this
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In 18
@10 It's not about "reverence." If you're going to cover something, cover it. If you're not, don't. But these superior posts are a bit embarrassing. Paul has a lot of interesting things to say. It doesn't mean everything he says is interesting, or that he should pontificate on every subject.
Posted by Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on January 6, 2013 at 3:05 PM · Report this
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Go back to drinking your tea. Liking sports isn't the end of the world and people like you bore me.
Posted by Chester Copperpot on January 6, 2013 at 3:12 PM · Report this
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Hi, everyone! Allow me to crap on something a lot of you love, and pretend I'm a better person for actively not enjoying it! Aren't I cool, guys? ...guys? ...why does nobody ever like me?

trolololol
Posted by Cow on January 6, 2013 at 3:16 PM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 21
I don't follow football. And despite years of sitting in bleachers as part of the marching band in high school, I still don't understand what a "down" is.

But I admit to a certain vicarious thrill seeing how excited people get about the games, and of course I wish our team the best. In the meantime, I'm baking a carrot cake.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on January 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM · Report this
dnt trust me 22
Carrot cake? Now? Our team just fumbled at the goalline!! We need your support Catalina!
Posted by dnt trust me on January 6, 2013 at 3:19 PM · Report this
COMTE 25
That fact that you people have enough time between downs to run to SLOG and bitch about Paul expressing his "superior" non-interest in your favorite multi-million-dollar-generating for-profit spectator sport says pretty much everything we NEED to know about it.

@9:

Seattle may have never been a part of the NHL, but we DO have one Stanley Cup win to our credit (Seattle Metropolitans, 1917), which thus gives us a better hockey championship record than roughly 1/3 of the teams currently in the League.
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 26
@18 - Then consider this an open thread for those who wish to discuss it. Or, you know, we could spend 20+ comments bitching about the journalistic merits of a blog post.
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on January 6, 2013 at 3:27 PM · Report this
COMTE 27
@23:

Depends. What race of Homo sapiens sapiens does an osprey represent?
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM · Report this
COMTE 29
@28:

Liking football (i.e. soccer) has nothing to do with any of that - particularly given the fact that, unlike in the U.S. and Canada, it IS the one spectator sport almost universally followed by middle- and lower-class peoples throughout the world; and one with a quite respectable representation on non-white players on the field, I would add.

What's "provincial" is the arrogant assumption on the part of NFL, NBA, MLB - and yes, even NHL fans, that a team can be "world champions" in a sport wherein only two countries participate professionally, unlike football (everywhere else), where the term "world champions" actually MEANS something.
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM · Report this
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@9 Thank you! How come it's ok to gush over hockey, but The Stranger has to bash, or at least roll their eye at, every other sport? The hypocrisy is killing me.

For the record, Seattle is a basketball city. 10 Seattle natives have played in the NBA this year, plus one each from Tacoma, Bremerton and Snohomish. We could literally field a whole team of just Seattle natives, and if it weren't for Brandon Roy's knees, they wouldn't be half bad. How 'bout some love for a sport Seattleites actually play? Is there even one NHL player from Seattle?
Posted by tacky on January 6, 2013 at 3:55 PM · Report this
care bear 32
BEASTMODE!
Posted by care bear on January 6, 2013 at 4:00 PM · Report this
dnt trust me 34
@30

You have two seattleites: one kind is born in the northwest just following the course of nature. The other kind is a transplant who has chosen to move to the NW because it's a groovy place. The Stranger is predominately for and by the latter.
Posted by dnt trust me on January 6, 2013 at 4:10 PM · Report this
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Doocy correctly states that Hank Williams Jr "comes from country music royalty", and like most offspring of royalty Hank is an arrogant featherbrain with an overinflated regard for his own opinions.
Posted by DNash on January 6, 2013 at 4:13 PM · Report this
matt 36
Hey Paul, whatcha readin?
Posted by matt on January 6, 2013 at 4:25 PM · Report this
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 37
I for one think that if you're not interested in listening to someone talk about how they don't know the rules of football and don't watch it, you're basically saying that you're not interested in listening to somebody who doesn't own a TV talk about how they don't even know the names of any popular TV shows. It's tantamount to having no interest in listening to vegans describe how unfamiliar they are with the taste of meat. Is that really who you want to be?

Personally my all time favorite blog is that one with the lesbians describing their purely hypothetical understanding of what cock is like and their total lack of interest in finding out first hand.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on January 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM · Report this
Sandiai 38
Does NOT look good for the Redskins.
Posted by Sandiai on January 6, 2013 at 4:29 PM · Report this
COMTE 39
@31:

Why yes, as a matter of fact, I HAVE traveled more than a days journey from the place of my birth, including a number of non-U.S. countries (America being the designation for two CONTINENTS, and not ONE COUNTRY, as us Sophisticated Liberals are well aware, and hence why our particular country is officially called "The United States OF America", and not simply "'Murkah!", as it is pronounced amongst the mouth-breathers).

And so I can say with some assurance that, while the US of A is not by any stretch, the MOST awful place I have ever been, there ARE parts of it that would make Neza-Chalco-Itze in Ciudad de Mexico, or Dharavi in Mumbai look like veritable oases of luxury in comparison - perhaps you are from one of these? Say, most parts of South Dakota or Mississippi, or large portions of South Carolina, Louisiana, or Kentucky, perhaps?
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM · Report this
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I'd rather watch good game of Sheep and Tides.
Posted by kinaidos on January 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM · Report this
Gern Blanston 41
It's not how you start, it's how you finish. 24-14 Hawks! Woo!
Posted by Gern Blanston on January 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM · Report this
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Isn't the author of the post simply doing the job of the Serious Fun Guy, the blue suited early season showcase character who seems to have been quietly swept under the rug by the NFL.

You'd think that had learned their lesson with Dennis Miller.

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on January 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM · Report this
sperifera 44
@39 - Go to Wyoming. The stark poverty there is shocking, and since it is obvious that YOU are well traveled (unlike the troll), you'll be able to appreciate it. And not surprisingly, Wyoming is one of the most conservative states in the US of Murkah.
Posted by sperifera on January 6, 2013 at 5:38 PM · Report this
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@34 Touché. And as they say, "When in Rome, keep your stick on the ice."
Posted by tacky on January 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM · Report this
COMTE 46
@33:

The obvious difference of course being that the Seahawks logo is, as you say a "stylized" (i.e. rendered in the style of) Coast Salish image of a bird; quite different from the offensively cartoonish depictions of Native Americans themselves, as represented by the Redskins or Indians logos, neither of which are based or "in the style of" any actual, authentic design or imagery.

As for rights to use Si'ahl's image to represent the city named in his honor, I suppose, by your logic, should we also have asked permission from the descendants of George Washington to use his likeness on our State Seal, or those of Abraham Lincoln, before we put his profile on the one-cent coin? And which descendants should we ask? Only direct descendants? All descendants? Do we have to identify and contact all of them before a decision can be made, or just a majority? A plurality? And once contacted, is the decision to be left to a majority vote? Consensus? Do they elect representatives?

The reason why the City of Seattle doesn't have to go to such absurd lengths as I've described above is covered under a legal concept known at "Right of Publicity", which exempts certain uses of names and images from copyright protection (assuming the name and image were copyrighted in the first place); one test is whether the use is intended to make money, which in the case of the Seattle City Logo it is clearly NOT.

In any event, it's a moot point, since the only picture of Si'ahl (from which all other images and likenesses have been derived) was taken in 1864, and any copyright for its use or derivation - had such been registered at the time - would have been long-expired, and the image itself transferred into the Public Domain, many decades before the Seattle City logo was created.
More...
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM · Report this
Kapow 47
You disrespect the rave green? Oh hell no. Move back to Cally.
Posted by Kapow on January 6, 2013 at 5:45 PM · Report this
schmacky 48
Paul, I love ya, but the abuse you've taken on this thread is totally deserved. Also would second the observation that this blog is bizarrely slanted toward NHL hockey, which makes no sense for a town that DOESNT HAVE AN NHL TEAM.
Posted by schmacky on January 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM · Report this
heywhatsit!? 49
@12 twelve is an obvious bear racist. A bearist? Get him!
Posted by heywhatsit!? on January 6, 2013 at 5:53 PM · Report this
COMTE 50
@44:

I LIVED in WY (Cheyenne & Laramie, to be precise) for about 2 1/2 years, albeit when I was a rather wee spat of about 3 or 4 years of age. Still, old enough for the endlessly flat, brown landscape and frontier mentality to have left an indelible impression; one for which I see no need to to revisit.

@42:

Try these for starters:

- Number of countries belonging to FIFA = 208
- Number of countries belonging to the NFL = 1

- Number of countries where Association Football is ranked "most popular" or "most watched" sport (2011) = 148
- Number of countries where NFL Football is ranked "most popular" or "most watched" sport (2011) = 1

- Total number of viewers for FIFA football matches worldwide (2010 estimate) = 3.5 billion
- Total number of NFL viewers worldwide (2011 estimate) = 201 million

- 2010 FIFA World Cup Final Viewership (estimate) = 1.1 B
- 2011 NFL Superbowl Viewership (estimate) = 120 M
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 6:32 PM · Report this
Knat 52
Why the Fox & Friends clip from over a year ago? What does that have to do with anything?

As far as football in America, I've spent lots of time on the field (in high school and younger) and on the couch to be well exposed to it, but I don't miss it now that I'm no longer forced to watch it (or any other sports) due to my family's viewing habits. I do appreciate the perspective outsiders have of our country's love of football, though. Stephen Fry's reaction was especially fun.
Posted by Knat on January 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM · Report this
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@50: I enjoy soccer, but a small-ish minority of soccer fans remind me of the subset of vegans that interject into any conversation about food, even if the topic was about how to properly grill a steak.

That's what you're doing right now.
Posted by doceb on January 6, 2013 at 6:47 PM · Report this
Last of the Time Lords 54
I rather enjoy a good game of cricket.
Posted by Last of the Time Lords on January 6, 2013 at 6:58 PM · Report this
COMTE 55
@53:

Ironic, your statement is, considering I'm NOT the one who brought up any of the topics-of-discussion to which I've responded in this thread.
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 7:13 PM · Report this
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YAY Paul. I set aside time to watch the game and looked forward to it and the rookie quarterback drama. I enjoyed watching it. It was fun. But hey, football is some seriously violent shit that leaves many of its players permanently injured and with significantly shorter lifespans. In our culture it teaches blind obedience to authority with a violent pack mentality. If Paul wants to blog about it and express disinterest or condescension , express ignorance about it, or denigrate it, more power to him because there is a lot of truth to be said there. On the other hand, the range of opinions here really shows that the Stranger has become a community paper for Seattle, perhaps despite its intention. Everything else is such obvious crap, barring an occasional worthwhile piece in the Weekly. I live embedded directly in sports culture for hours on a daily basis and I still find it weird and alien, no matter how much I like many of the people I inhabit it with . Let your flag fly Paul!
Posted by cracked on January 6, 2013 at 7:27 PM · Report this
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@55: You responded to an anonymous troll comment that nobody gave a shit about (or even saw) otherwise. You're hyper-willingness to leverage any opportunity to interject junk that nobody else here gives a shit about is exactly what I'm talking about.
Posted by doceb on January 6, 2013 at 7:30 PM · Report this
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@54: A good game of cricket is a thing to enjoy. Too bad they are slightly rarer than flying pigs.
Posted by Romial on January 6, 2013 at 7:43 PM · Report this
lark 59
Congratulations, Seattle Seahawks!

For you Lefties out there who loathe organize sports, check out this article:

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/1430…

Posted by lark on January 6, 2013 at 7:43 PM · Report this
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Holy Shit. I just re-read Paul's little blurb. That was a seriously harmless comment, but we got a thread full of people talking like gun nuts who think someone might ban large clips. Seriously, chill. Football is still king. If your NFL team needs a new stadium, a special election will be held for you to express your will to have people who don't agree with you pay for it. Rejoice.
Posted by cracked on January 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM · Report this
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@COMTE I must agree with you, fuck poor Americans and their damn football...
Posted by _db_ on January 6, 2013 at 8:05 PM · Report this
fletc3her 62
I think it's the "all of a sudden" that I find off putting as if this city hasn't been crazy for football in general for decades and in particular for the last several weeks.

Everybody in Seattle started drinking coffee all of a sudden!
Posted by fletc3her on January 6, 2013 at 8:26 PM · Report this
Westlake, son! 64
The local ski resorts were empty today, Paul. Football is great!
Posted by Westlake, son! on January 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM · Report this
dnt trust me 66
@62
I like your thinking. As a critic as such, Paul Constant is run of the mill decent, in the tradition of Pauline Kael, Sasha Frere-Jones, etc. As an honest person who is sensitive with words, he is not, and you will expect spews like "all of a sudden" and countless other instances in his writing.
Posted by dnt trust me on January 6, 2013 at 8:47 PM · Report this
Posted by imbecile on January 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM · Report this
Daddy Love 68
Take the stick out of your butt. it's easy...
Posted by Daddy Love on January 6, 2013 at 8:58 PM · Report this
Posted by wisepunk on January 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM · Report this
California Kid 70
It's amazing how the most commented posts are the most worthless.
Posted by California Kid on January 6, 2013 at 9:17 PM · Report this
California Kid 71
Oops now I commented, just increasing the problem! Oh well played Paul. Well played. Curse your hipster distain for popular American culture!
Posted by California Kid on January 6, 2013 at 9:20 PM · Report this
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writers for any newspaper or blog has a goal to drive interest/traffic so they can sell advertising. highly commented postings = good business, however innane their content.

paul's post is 2 for 2. both annoying and lots of comments. muedede must be jealous!
Posted by Cassette tape fan on January 6, 2013 at 9:33 PM · Report this
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@60: agreed.
Posted by tiktok on January 6, 2013 at 9:34 PM · Report this
COMTE 74
@57:

Ah, the tried-and-true "I didn't see it, so it doesn't exist" defense. Spoken like a true head-in-the-sand member of the unreality-based community.

@63:

The NFL generates approximately US$13 B in annual revenue from ticket sales, broadcast rights, sponsorships, merchandising, endorsements, etc., etc - almost all of which is generated withiin the U.S. FIFA, OTOH, with approximately 17 TIMES the number of fans as the NFL, generates approximately US$1.4 B in annual revenue worldwide.

GUESS which one I'm talking about...
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 9:41 PM · Report this
heywhatsit!? 75
I wish my ass was full of a bunch of soccer and football income stats. Sounds comfy.
Posted by heywhatsit!? on January 6, 2013 at 10:24 PM · Report this
brent 76
@74 You know, given FIFA only puts on one tournament every four years (and a couple youth tournaments that nobody really cares about), pointing out they still pull in 1/10th the annual revenue of the entire NFL is not really the comparison you think you are making.

On the other hand, you did talk about FIFA like it was some kind of a thing like a sports league that people are fans of, so it's not too hard to see that you might be a little confused on the issue.
Posted by brent on January 6, 2013 at 10:27 PM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 77
The carrot cake turned out wonderfully. Not that anyone asked.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay http://www.danlangdon.com on January 6, 2013 at 11:20 PM · Report this
78
Most of these posts just prove sports fans are assholes.
Posted by BallardBoy on January 6, 2013 at 11:20 PM · Report this
COMTE 79
@76:

You're correct: FIFA is not a sports league, it's a confederation of SIX INTERNATIONAL sports leagues, one for each continent (sans Antartica), plus Oceana, organized around one quadrennial 32 team elimination tournament, with (as of 2010) 204 teams entered into the two-year qualifying cycle leading up to it.

And so, it's EXACTLY the comparison I think I'm making - one that shows precisely how FIFA puts on the world's most inclusive, most watched, most attended, and most popular professional sports championship tournament every four years, at a fraction of the cost of a single NFL post-season, which generates ridiculous amounts of revenue, while being seen by a demonstrably minuscule number of people in comparison.
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 11:22 PM · Report this
COMTE 80
@77:

Butter cream frosting?
Posted by COMTE on January 6, 2013 at 11:23 PM · Report this
81
thank you Paul. truth to power. couldn't have summed it up better.
Posted by justsomeguy83 on January 6, 2013 at 11:32 PM · Report this
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COMTE: I'm still not sure what point you're trying to prove.

Is it just "Soccer > Football?"
Posted by doceb on January 7, 2013 at 12:03 AM · Report this
heywhatsit!? 83
@82 I think? Maybe? Impossible to tell. I think COMTE is Paul's target audience. Go Packers! And good bye.
Posted by heywhatsit!? on January 7, 2013 at 12:14 AM · Report this
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@78 Doesn't it prove the same of non sports fans?
Posted by Seattle14 on January 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM · Report this
86
What's sadder than the comments here is that I just read them... Like a least half of them... Damnit.
Posted by michael bell on January 7, 2013 at 12:37 AM · Report this
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Actually I want to make a comment.

Paul was poking fun at himself and then said he was going to read a book. In what way was that him condemning anyone or being on a "high horse." Apparently reading is pretentious now.
Posted by michael bell on January 7, 2013 at 12:40 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 88
I had no idea the Seahawks played such dirty football. I wondered why people hated the Seahawks, but know seeing them play a whole game, I understand. If Sherman got called on his constant holding, the guy would not even be able to play CB. Grabbing the jersey to stop WRs is not "being physical" it is "holding."

I could not believe the shit the refs were allowing Seattle to get away with, and how out of hand they let that game get. The refs should be fined for this game.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on January 7, 2013 at 5:05 AM · Report this
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What happens in the end? The big he-men pat each other on the butts then go off and take a shower together. Just like the good heterosexuals they are.
Posted by olandp on January 7, 2013 at 5:34 AM · Report this
Kinison 90
Dear Stranger, you clearly dont care about the Seahawks or football in general, so please stop posting any articles about it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/seahawks
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on January 7, 2013 at 5:37 AM · Report this
91

Speaking of racism..check out the picture from this article in Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-06…

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on January 7, 2013 at 5:51 AM · Report this
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The next time there's a comment-fest complaining about the high cost of Seahawks tickets, I want the complainers to refer back to this display of fanatical hysteria, er--"12th Man Passion".

It's like watching the weeping in front of a rust stain on a wall that "looks" like Jesus.
Posted by tiktok on January 7, 2013 at 7:55 AM · Report this
Martin H. Duke 95
What cracks me up is the arguments because various sports fans about why their sport is objectively "better" than the other guys. On a place like Slog, it's usually soccer fans looking down on football bans, because European redneck hooligans are more sophisticated than American redneck hooligans, or something. In other forums, it's soccer being dismissed as unamerican.

Once you've accepted the premise of enjoying other people play sports, there isn't much objective difference between them. If something about soccer floats your boat, go for it. I happen to prefer football and baseball because I grew up with them, understand them a bit better, and there are specific qualities of the games that I find appealing. But that doesn't make me better than you, soccer fan, nor the reverse.
Posted by Martin H. Duke http://seattletransitblog.com on January 7, 2013 at 8:58 AM · Report this
Martin H. Duke 96
I mangled that first sentence, but you know what I mean.
Posted by Martin H. Duke http://seattletransitblog.com on January 7, 2013 at 8:59 AM · Report this
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96 comments on this lame post? Instead of blaming Paul...maybe a lot of you folks should start looking for your news and opinions from more than just the Slog. There is a great big world out there. And on top of that, Slog isn't what it was a couple years ago.
Posted by flan on January 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM · Report this
Bonefish 99
82: Comte is arguing against someone who declared that soccer is a sport for elite white Seattle yuppies whereas football is loved by the salt of the earth.

I think pointing out the huge global popularity of soccer among a varied international audience is a perfectly fine counter-argument to this, even if he is arguing it with more fervor than it's worth.
Posted by Bonefish http://5bmisc.blogspot.com/ on January 7, 2013 at 9:48 AM · Report this
Bonefish 100
87: Some people just don't understand tongue-in-cheek humor. I like football just fine and I'm not offended that Paul made a semi-sassy posts about how little he gives a shit. Pick your battles, people.

Then again I'm also one of those pretentious soccer fans, too. Maybe all that white wine, arugula salad, and South American art is clogging my brain.
Posted by Bonefish http://5bmisc.blogspot.com/ on January 7, 2013 at 9:54 AM · Report this
Beetlecat 101
Y'all got trolled, but good!
Posted by Beetlecat on January 7, 2013 at 10:09 AM · Report this
COMTE 102
@93:

When the English Premier League puts on a World Championship like FIFA does (or "world championship" in the case of the NFL), then their revenue numbers will be relevant to this particular discussion; until then, not so much.
Posted by COMTE on January 7, 2013 at 11:11 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 103
Soccer, Hockey, and American Football - all worship Seattle.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM · Report this
COMTE 104
Right @98:

Because American football fans are the epitome of politeness and decorum.
Posted by COMTE on January 7, 2013 at 12:01 PM · Report this
lucidslumber 105
I enjoy reading Constant, and I fucking love the Seahawks. Not mutually exclusive. Go Hawks!
Posted by lucidslumber on January 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 106
Remember, Seahawks are going to win the Superbowl.

Why?

Because of gay marriage and legal MJ and stuff.

12th Man!
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on January 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM · Report this

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