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Monday, December 17, 2012

"Stand on the right side of history."

Posted by on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:37 AM

The Chicago Sun-Times urges Illinois state legislators to send a marriage equality bill to the Governor Quinn's desk.

Terry—a boy so nice I married him twice. As tempting as it might be to marry his ass thrice, we're not gonna fly home to Chicago to get married again after marriage equality comes to my home town. We are planning, however, to fly home to Chicago so that we can be a part of the cheering crowd outside Chicago's magnificent City Hall on the first day that all couples in Illinois are free to marry.

Come on, Illinois!


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passionate_jus 1
Thank you!

With all the crazy stuff happening and the fight with the NRA which lies ahead, thank you for reminding us that there are great things happening with our democratic republic as well!

I'm in living in VA and I plan on going to Rhode Island to help out when that state legislature takes up marriage equality next year.
Posted by passionate_jus on December 17, 2012 at 7:44 AM · Report this
Is Terry so nice that you don't insist on the right to commit adultery?
Yeah, it might seem tough but marriage is a big girl institution, can you borrow some big girl panties?
Posted by 'Love' and other four letter words on December 17, 2012 at 7:59 AM · Report this
@2: You don't have to be married to be monogamous or monogamous to be married.

You know...

When social conservatives start taking down the license plate numbers on the cars that legally married straight couples park outside swingers' clubs, when social conservatives start amending state constitutions so that the marriages of adulterous straight couples can be terminated by unaffected third parties or the state, THEN those of us who are gay and in happy, successful, long-term monogamish relationships will take you fuckers seriously when you freak out about our marriages.

And since that's never going to happen, we don't ever have to take you seriously.

And if monogamy is the gold standard—if monogamy is what marriage is all about—only lesbians should be allowed to marry. But you don't hear social conservatives making that argument.
Posted by Dan Savage on December 17, 2012 at 8:05 AM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 4
It will be a scary fight for Illinois too, but equality will win, love will win, marriage will win, America will win.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on December 17, 2012 at 8:17 AM · Report this
nocutename 5
You know, sometimes it's frustrating to live in California.
Go, Illinois!
Posted by nocutename on December 17, 2012 at 8:27 AM · Report this

It is one thing to cheat.
There are and always be cheating pieces of shit.

Or to make a mistake.
Everyone does.
Honest folks admit it and try to make amends and try not to do it again.

It is another thing to seek to legitimize cheating.
To make Cheating Piece of Shittery the accepted standard of behavior.

One involves failing to live up to the Ideal.

The other is throwing the Ideal into the trash.

if we accept your version of the world,
want to throw the Ideals that makes Marriage Useful and Special into the trash.

if we accept your version of the world,
do not even claim to love their 'spouses' enough to want to try to be faithful.

There are lots of social relationships that accommodate the lifestyle you advocate.
They show up in "Every Child Deserves..." every week.

Marriage is not one of them.

The Troll may not be a smart man but we know what Love is.

And Love does not want to cheat.

Love does not seek to justify cheating.

And Love does not try to convince itself
or those we claim to Love
or others
that cheating is OK.
Posted by We Feel Sorry For You on December 17, 2012 at 8:29 AM · Report this
Ah, but Dan, when THEY do it, they are redeemed by their penitence. That's why catching these fuckers not living up to the standards they expect everyone else to meet doesn't slow them down - we call it hypocrisy, they call it redemption. If they didn't sin, they couldn't be saved, washed in the blood of the lamb. Prodigal son, lost lamb - it's all the same damn story. They can do anything they like, as long as they are sorry afterward.

Those of who do what we think is best for our own lives, own the consequences, and have no regrets just burn their asses because they can't imagine a life free of guilt and self loathing.
Posted by agony on December 17, 2012 at 8:31 AM · Report this
@6, thank you for making my case.
Posted by agony on December 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM · Report this

...are and always WILL be cheating...
Posted by ....crap. now we feel sorry for us on December 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 10
Troll honey, you're mistaken badly. We Homosexuals don't want, need, desire, or care about YOUR acceptance or care about your distorted notion of how we view the world. Fuck you and your notions that some how YOUR acceptance and view is the gold standard or desired by us, it's not.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on December 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM · Report this

are you kidding?
Danny wants so badly for Maggie to admit that he has a Real Marriage that it hurts.....
Remember, you came to Us trying to make Us recognize Your "marriages".
Posted by sorry, not enough lipstick in the world to mask that porker on December 17, 2012 at 8:40 AM · Report this
Are either of those smiling gals named Murphy Brown?

'cause it seems we've heard this tune before.......
Posted by That worked out really well...... on December 17, 2012 at 8:41 AM · Report this
nocutename 13
Just hold on a second, unregistered twit: my cousin has been with his partner in a monogamous relationship for 37 years. (They aren't married yet because their state won't let them marry and they want to wait until it's legal where they live but they did become registered domestic partners as soon as that became available to them. They will get to marry in their home state someday, I hope.)
They are monogamous, conservative, old-fashioned men. Your assumption that all gays are not monogamous is ridiculous.

But straight or gay, people aren't cheating shits, even when they're not monogamous, as long they are open with each other about the boundaries in their marriages or committed relationships.
Posted by nocutename on December 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM · Report this
I'm a Chicagoan. What can I do to help?
Posted by Bonzer Terriffic on December 17, 2012 at 8:44 AM · Report this
So if you could marry Terry a third time, you would pick and chose which parts of his anatomy you would get... umm... hitched to? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Posted by TechBear on December 17, 2012 at 8:56 AM · Report this

That is Danny's assumption about Homosexuals. Not ours.

And sorry, they are.
Cheating Shits, that is.
Because even if two Cheating Shits get together and decide they don't care if they cheat on each other they are still cheating on the Institution of Marriage.
Because Traditional Heterosexual Marriage is a means to help people be better than they otherwise might have been.
It inspires and motivates them.
It makes them, and their community, better.
But only if you play by the rules.
No Cheating.....

If you want to Cheat, and don't plan not to Cheat, then don't marry.

Posted by Cheaters Never Propser on December 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM · Report this


Posted by damn, where did that little red pill go?... on December 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM · Report this
RTam 18
It cannot be called "cheating" if the person is not dishonest. Troll, your argument is invalid.

Act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, esp. in a game or examination: "she cheats at cards".
A person who behaves dishonestly in order to gain an advantage.
Posted by RTam on December 17, 2012 at 1:43 PM · Report this

So you are saying that if someone dishonestly enters into "marriage" in order to gain the benefits and advantages thereof (tax breaks, social status, etc etc) but has no intention of living up to the standards by not committing adultery they are a cheater?

We never thought of it that way but we see that you are correct.......
Posted by thank you for your comment. on December 17, 2012 at 4:25 PM · Report this
venomlash 20
@19: Show me where in the law of the land participants in marriage are expected to be monogamous.
Posted by venomlash on December 18, 2012 at 2:33 AM · Report this

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