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News & ArtsMonday, November 19, 2012
Visual Art Is It Time to Put the Art in Storage in Israel?
Posted by Jen Graves on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:20 PM
This round of fighting feels different, more dangerous, to some of Israel's museums. At the Tel Aviv Museum of Art, where there's supposed to be a Brueghel-related exhibition, the director has decided to strip the red walls of the valuable paintings. That hasn't happened there since 1991.
Other museums aren't reacting to the recent attacks that way at all. Even the national Israel Museum in Jerusalem isn't moving its prized antiquities. "It's business as usual," its director told reporters.
"We don't get into a panic and take stuff from the glass showcases," the spokeswoman from another museum said.
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Is it time for American armchair quasi-liberals to stop opining about situations they know nothing about?
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@1, is it time for Hamas to accept that Israel exists and stop firing sending rockets into it?
And @2, yes, it is.
And @2, yes, it is.
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@2: It is. I specifically refrained from opining, or even offering any comment, for this very reason. (Didn't I?) I just wanted to share the news.
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Is it time for Americans to be complacent about their tax dollars funding war crimes? Appears to be so.
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@2 was aimed at @1, and not at yourself, Jen.
I thought your post was an interesting insight into how people removed from the political front lines react to a sudden drop in perceived stability. Thank you for it!
I thought your post was an interesting insight into how people removed from the political front lines react to a sudden drop in perceived stability. Thank you for it!
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"58% [of Israelis] believe Israel already practises apartheid against Palestinians"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct…
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Who cares what Hamas SAYS its about. Lets infantalize them, put words in their mouths, and pretend that they think just like the denizens of Capitol Hill! http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thej…
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Who cares what anybody SAYS: what really matters is what they DO. A colonial turd sandwich posturing as a democratic experiment is nothing more than a turd sandwich.
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It takes 2 to tango, which points to your failure to account for what Israel does (rather than SAYS). It's a quite unfortunate "blind spot" on your part since Israel is the occupier that employs methods described as 'apartheid' by a majority of its own population.
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Remind me again why a government, with a duty to protect its people, should allow them to be showered by hundreds of rocket attacks. I know you've told me the reason before, but I keep forgetting it.
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Sadly, @1 has a point. Hamas was in secret negotiations for a peace treaty, and the warhawks in the Israeli cabinet decided to cap someone to avoid any peace deals.
Oh, I'm sorry, you didn't WANT the truth?
Oh, I'm sorry, you didn't WANT the truth?
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Palestine had its chance for peace when Clinton was in office. Arifat made it clear that peace is something that they will never want.
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Because the random rockets that Hamas fires and many of which are knocked out the sky pose a great treat to the art museums of Tel Aviv.
Howabout we put the children of Gaza in storage instead until the adults are done killing each other?
Howabout we put the children of Gaza in storage instead until the adults are done killing each other?
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It always amazes me the massive blind spot Americans have towards the actions of Israel. Not all of it can be blamed on Israel's influence on our news media (which is insidious and very real).
People living in Israel care more about the Palestinians and the despicable actions of their own state than people in America, which tells you a lot about Americans.
@17: Anyone who thinks that Palestine was being given aything but a completely raw deal does not understand what the deal was. The point was for a two-state solution, not Israel retaining power or a tiny, non-continous "state" still under the essential control of another hostile state.
Arafat would have been signing the Palestinians into essentially a large prison camp.
People living in Israel care more about the Palestinians and the despicable actions of their own state than people in America, which tells you a lot about Americans.
@17: Anyone who thinks that Palestine was being given aything but a completely raw deal does not understand what the deal was. The point was for a two-state solution, not Israel retaining power or a tiny, non-continous "state" still under the essential control of another hostile state.
Arafat would have been signing the Palestinians into essentially a large prison camp.
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It always amazes me the massive blind spot Americans have towards the actions of Israel. Not all of it can be blamed on Israel's influence on our news media (which is insidious and very real).
It always amazes me the massive blind spot quasi-progressive Seattleites have towards their own jawdropping antisemitism.
Name any other point in history when a nation attacked by its neighbors, which not only successfully defended themselves but turned around the conflict and acquired disputed lands from its attackers, was then expected to relinquish or acquiesce to global pressure regarding those acquired lands in any way.
Should Germany get Gdańsk and Alsace-Lorraine back, just to be nice? Let's send Texas back to Mexico, shall we?
Had historical precedent been followed, residents of the former Jordanian and Egyptian territories would have been mass-exiled east and south, the lands would have become wholly Israeli, and that would have been that.
That Israel would even entertain the idea of a two-state solution makes them historical outliers.
It always amazes me the massive blind spot quasi-progressive Seattleites have towards their own jawdropping antisemitism.
Name any other point in history when a nation attacked by its neighbors, which not only successfully defended themselves but turned around the conflict and acquired disputed lands from its attackers, was then expected to relinquish or acquiesce to global pressure regarding those acquired lands in any way.
Should Germany get Gdańsk and Alsace-Lorraine back, just to be nice? Let's send Texas back to Mexico, shall we?
Had historical precedent been followed, residents of the former Jordanian and Egyptian territories would have been mass-exiled east and south, the lands would have become wholly Israeli, and that would have been that.
That Israel would even entertain the idea of a two-state solution makes them historical outliers.
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@19, you've got to be kidding. Just about every single liberal in America considers Israel a violent aggressor. Go onto any liberal college campus, attend any leftist social justice organization meeting, talk to any member of a liberal Christian organization: Israelis = vicious apartheid enforcers, Palestinians = innocent victims no matter what they do. And ironically, part of that meme is that no Americans care about Palestinians, which you just recited.
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