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Sunday, November 18, 2012

Slog Bible Study: Leviticus 25:44-46

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Leviticus 25:44-46
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.


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SEANIEPANTS 23
This passage seems distinctly relevant to the latest boondoggle in the pro vs. anti-Zionist soap opera.
Posted by SEANIEPANTS on November 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM · Report this
treacle 22
13,15 - ALL religions -- Xtianity, Islam, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, etc. -- have rules against usury. Still do. But as you point out, they are only relevant to one's in-group.

The USA even had anti-usury laws on the books ... until they were abolished during Reagan's presidency. Now we have "payday loans" and credit cards that charge any ol' predatory interest rate they want. No longer the realm of loan sharks and the mob, usury is fully legal!
Fuck you, capitalism!

D. Graeber makes the very valid point that slavery --being reduced the state of a slave-- very specifically revolves around being removed from your social context. You as a person have value to friends, family, neighbors... Once you are ripped from that social context, you are nothing. This is consistent with slavery up to and including today.
Posted by treacle on November 19, 2012 at 11:04 AM · Report this
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I'd love a Canadian slave. He'd give me health care, respect my marriage, and when I'd ask for something, he'd say, "No worries." Everyone should have a Canadian.
Posted by Clayton on November 19, 2012 at 5:42 AM · Report this
blackhook 20
I'm thinking of getting me a Canadian slave or two. Canucks are usually pretty docile creatures who, except for NHL playoffs, generally know who their masters are.

So nice to have the Lord's OK on this...
Posted by blackhook on November 19, 2012 at 12:08 AM · Report this
tomas 19
So, I get to include my house keeper in my will? My son's wife will be pleased. How do capital gains affect my tax burden?
Posted by tomas on November 18, 2012 at 4:08 PM · Report this
Tacoma Traveler 18
16,

Agreed.
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on November 18, 2012 at 1:18 PM · Report this
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I think pointing out the more easily refuted verses is important. Religious people will often enough argue that some bigotry or another is good because the bible says so, and the bible is always right because god. Having bits like this fresh in my mind makes those conversations blessedly brief.
Posted by Kansas boy on November 18, 2012 at 12:12 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 16
Meh.

This is such low hanging fruit it's hardly even worth it.

I like what @2 said. Interesting and I'd never heard of it before (shocking I know... the church only publishes the shit it feels like publishing!).

Not that any of this matters. Religions - ALL religions - are make believe fantasies.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on November 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM · Report this
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@13, you have it wrong. The Christians had a rule about interest and lending, and forced the Jews to become their bankers in the early Middle Ages. The Christians didn't care what the Torah said.
Posted by sarah70 on November 18, 2012 at 11:24 AM · Report this
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#13 That was pretty much the rule for everyone in antiquity. And now, come to think of it.
Posted by LadyAlice on November 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM · Report this
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Odd how so many of the rules in Judaism are along the lines of "You can be a dick, but just not to your own group". IIRC, there was a prohibition on usury in Judaism that was interpreted the same way in the Middle Ages, which is why Jews could lend at interest to Christians.

This also explains why Leviticus is so popular with conservatives, and why they have no trouble with bending the rules for their own, but interpret them strictly for everyone else.
Posted by Corydon on November 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 12
@10 Only when you insist they do it pantless.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on November 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM · Report this
Just Jeff 11
How much for Shania Twain?
Posted by Just Jeff on November 18, 2012 at 8:37 AM · Report this
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i just want somebody to do my dishes. is that so wrong?
Posted by Adrian Ryan on November 18, 2012 at 8:11 AM · Report this
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I'm a Canadian. Someone please buy me.
Posted by Ruth Evershed on November 18, 2012 at 8:09 AM · Report this
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I need someone to clean my townhouse if anyone would like to be bequeathed. Male and female slaves welcome.
Posted by Swearengen on November 18, 2012 at 8:08 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 7
Maria! Dos mas Margueritas, por favor!
Posted by Pope Peabrain on November 18, 2012 at 8:07 AM · Report this
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Slavery has so MANY RULES! Just not worth it anymore.
Posted by Nate Dogg on November 18, 2012 at 7:20 AM · Report this
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@2 kinda like the movie The Prestige. starring 'Christian' Bale. hmmm
Posted by Cassette tape fan on November 18, 2012 at 7:09 AM · Report this
NotSean 4
Pretty sure this is a rerun.
Posted by NotSean on November 18, 2012 at 7:08 AM · Report this
Matt from Denver 3
This makes it clear that the solution to illegal immigration is to enslave the migrants. God, you ALWAYS have the answer!
Posted by Matt from Denver on November 18, 2012 at 7:05 AM · Report this
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Yawn. Leviticus is easy pickings for stupid stuff said in the bible. How about the gnostic Gospel of Thomas , where we find out Jesus had a twin brother, who may or may not have substituted in for him in the cross (thus explaining the big 'miracle' of The Resurrection in a very Non-divine, almost magician/grifter way).
Discuss.
Posted by JulietteF on November 18, 2012 at 6:29 AM · Report this
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Where is the part about paying them sub- minimum wage while complaining about how they take jobs away from real Americans?
Posted by Clayton on November 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM · Report this

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