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Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Rick Perry Says Texas Won't Be Seceding

Posted by on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:36 AM

I was kind of hoping this whole Republicans calling for secession thing would catch on, but if Rick Perry isn't willing to board your conservative crazy train, there's not much hope that other mainstream Republicans will climb on board, either.

The Dallas Morning News reports that the Republican governor's press secretary, Catherine Frazier, said in an email that Perry "believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it." She added, "But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government. Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens can provide for their families and prosper."

Even those far-right loons over at Red State aren't biting. Today, Red State management posted an unusual letter demanding an end to all the talk of secession on the site, in addition to an end to the chatter that President Obama somehow stole the election:

Barack Obama won. He won by turning out the most people in a well run campaign. In other words, he won fair and square. Instances of voter fraud should be taken seriously and we urge their investigation. But any instances of voter fraud would not have altered the ultimate outcome of this election.

We here at RedState are American citizens. We have no plans to secede from the union. If you do, good luck with that, but this is not the place for you.

There's still hope, though: Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain haven't yet been heard from. Do they think Minnesota and Georgia should secede from the union? Does it seem likely to them that President Obama stole the election from Mitt Romney? God, I hope so.

 

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Fifty-Two-Eighty 26
Shut up, dumbass. BTW, if your family fought in the Revolutionary War, they were probably Yankees. How's that make you feel?
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on November 20, 2012 at 10:13 AM · Report this
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THIS WILL NOT GO AWAY AND I WILL NOT LEAVE AND WE WILL SECEDE AND YOU 20 OR SO STATES (IF YOU ARE LUCKY) CAN SWIM IN OBAMANATION SEWER and live in OBAMAVILLE and become COMMIE ZOBIES! We are too far apart and you evil lefties have to cheat to win and WE WILL TAKE BACK OUR GOD AND GUNS AND COUNTRY. My family fought in the Revolution War and created the Bills of Right and the Constitution and I WILL NOT LET YOU DESTROY WHAT MY FAMILY AND THE OTHER FOREFATHER GAVE US! WE SECEDED FROM ENGLAND AND WE WILL SECEDE FROM OBAMANATION AND KEEP OUR LAND! WE HAVE GOD ON OUR SIDE AND YOU DON'T!
Posted by For the love of God on November 20, 2012 at 9:24 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 24
@20 nope,just the panhandle and part of the western side of the state.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on November 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM · Report this
Fred Casely 23
@1: Wouldn't even have to be an entire state; how about just Bachmann's congressional district? It's on the Mississippi, so it would have an outlet to the sea. And this would finally be eradicated within the U.S.
Posted by Fred Casely on November 13, 2012 at 4:58 PM · Report this
Teslick 22
21: I thought it was "Lord of the Rings" fans emigrating to NZ looking for Rivendell.

As for Texas, I'm sure there's more than a few urban archipelago residents signing those White House succession petetions.
Posted by Teslick on November 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM · Report this
Dougsf 21
@16 - The conservative analog for Canada as the proverbial liberal American's election refuge is (naively) Australia—but more recently, New Zealand. I didn't know it was a thing either until this election cycle, but that's what they say.

It's always just been hot air on both sides, but NZ is actually becoming a haven for right-leaning American billionaires.
Posted by Dougsf on November 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM · Report this
Dougsf 20
@6 - I always imagined Texas to be sparsely populated between cities. Are the metro areas infinitely sprawling like Phoenix? With Obama carrying Texas' big cities, I'm trying to imagine what else could account for it being so Red there.
Posted by Dougsf on November 13, 2012 at 1:58 PM · Report this
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Robert Bentley, Nathan Deal and Phil Bryant all recently announced that their states would not be succeeding either.

Queries regarding the confusion were met with heart blessings.
Posted by Not The Tastiest Crackers In The Barrel on November 13, 2012 at 1:15 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 18
@1 for the win.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on November 13, 2012 at 12:32 PM · Report this
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So they won't secede.... Can we eject them?
Posted by SuperSteve on November 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM · Report this
Matt from Denver 16
@ 9, that's not why it's interesting. Of course it doesn't have a chance in hell of happening.

To me, it's the contrast to all the talk of emigrating to Canada you heard from liberals after Bush's elections. I haven't fully sussed out what it means, but it's interesting that liberals would leave America, but conservatives want to secede. Both are expressions of giving up, but one side would resort to something they have to know would never happen without violence. The petitions may request that they be allowed to leave peaceably, but I bet everyone signing them is imagining shooting up feds and liberals in a righteous rebellion.

But petitioning the White House directly is interesting, too. While I'm sure the number of people who took some actual tentative steps toward emigrating (which includes getting their passport in order as a direct result of the elections, or downloading whatever paperwork needed to be submitted for emigration, even if they didn't follow through) was in the tens or hundreds of thousands, they didn't make the news. Mostly they just made virtual noise online. But petitioning to secede... that's novel.

Anyway, the reaction we're experiencing isn't "Wow, this might really happen guys, what are we gonna do about it?" It's more like, "Wow, these people are bigger crybabies and assholes than I imagined." It's something to talk about for now, and will either get old as it dies out for lack of support from anyone of influence (like redstate.com or Rick Perry), or get new life if something new happens (like a bunch of idiots attacking an FBI office in a pathetic reenactment of the shelling of Fort Sumpter. (No, I don't consider that likely, but anything's possible.)
More...
Posted by Matt from Denver on November 13, 2012 at 11:57 AM · Report this
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There is now a petition to the White House to revoke the citizenship of anyone who signs a secession petition. This could be fun.
Posted by ratcityreprobate on November 13, 2012 at 11:49 AM · Report this
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn 14
Why exactly do we want them around? Let them go.
Posted by Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn http://youtu.be/zu-akdyxpUc on November 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM · Report this
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The whole thing seems preposterous. Somebody was boasting that the Texas petition had 30,000 signatures.

30,000 out of 25 million. As a measure of popular support its indistinguishable from 0.
Posted by Alden on November 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM · Report this
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This election turned into the best chance for the GOP to cleanse themselves from the tea party. It was fun for one cycle but now they've seen how unpopular extremists truly are. I imagine that we'll see a huge break in the GOP during the fiscal cliff talks. The GOP knows its better to alienate 20 percent of the voters (roughly the number of people who dig the tea party) than to ruin their name for the 80 percent who don't share the tea party's wrapped view on civic responsiblity.
I imagine we'll watch a hilarious 'civil war' among conservatives on the Internet, red state vs FreeRepublic, etc.i can't wait to see who can out patriot the patriots.
Besides, those tea party guys will come crawling back to the GOP in a few years anyways.
Posted by CbytheSea on November 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM · Report this
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@9 entertainment value, akin to previously discussing Sarah Palin being remotely possibly the Vice President.
Posted by originalcinner on November 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM · Report this
danewood 10
@4 You and I are talking about the same thing. I didn't mean to suggest that the national conversations we should be having have been destroyed recently. But I believe its destruction correlates pretty well to the rise of the toxic propaganda the Right has been spewing. People aren't just "haha" crazy out there, they are legitimately terrified because of what they hear and if it continues I can only imagine it will end in tragedy for this country.
Posted by danewood on November 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 9
Why the fuck is anyone talking like seccession is even close to being a remote possibility?
Posted by Theodore Gorath on November 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM · Report this
The Max 8
Remember, even here in the reddest of the Red States, at least a full quarter of us more or less pretty much agree with y'all up-out there in the Bluese of the Blue States. Secession would be a hellacious tragedy for those of us who make our homes down here and work to bring the rest up to the light. Don't abandon us. We're trying. And we are making progress. Right Wing crazy though she be, we elected a South Asian woman governor. Didn't think I'd live to see that.
Posted by The Max on November 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM · Report this
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The Republican pity party just goes on and on.
Posted by jeffg166 on November 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM · Report this
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Not all of Texas is Perry-like: Obama did very well in Dallas (he won it 57% to 42%), Austin (he won it 60% to 36%), San Antonio (he won it 52% to 47%), and South Texas (along the border of Mexico, where most of the population is Hispanic -- Obama got 70%-80%+ of the vote in these counties). But in Houston (Harris County), Obama and Romney tied at 49%.

http://www.411mania.com/politics/columns…
Posted by Fluffy on November 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM · Report this
treacle 5
People are => People aren't even...
grr.
Posted by treacle on November 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM · Report this
treacle 4
"Destroying reasonable national conversations"?
With all due respect my friend, those reasonable conversations were destroyed quite some time ago. People are even using the same words with the same definitions. "Socialist", for just one outstanding example. "Debt/deficit", "war", "welfare", "taxes", and the list goes on. I wish we could all come to some agreement on what all those words and more actually mean.

This country is in a heavily dysfunctional relationship with itself, none of the partners are having the same conversation, yet all are talking at the same time. They are using fear and dramatic manipulations to attempt to control the yelling-"conversation", and while that is going on the oligarchs are winning at everything. :(

Time to stop mentioning Bachmann and Cain, though. And we should probably drop this blather about secession. It was funny yesterday, but today we have to pull on our boots and get some work done.
Posted by treacle on November 13, 2012 at 11:03 AM · Report this
venomlash 3
I'm fine with not having heard from Bachmann.
Posted by venomlash on November 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM · Report this
danewood 2
I wish this whole thing would calm down. I get the schadenfreude, but this division is ruining our country and destroying reasonable national conversations. The toxic propaganda from the Right has to end. I wish some conservative leaders would start stepping up and calling this insanity out.
Posted by danewood on November 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM · Report this
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I wish some interior state would secede so we would have that weird country-in-a-country thing South Africa has going on.
Posted by DisorganizedReligion on November 13, 2012 at 10:48 AM · Report this

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