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Thursday, November 8, 2012

What They Said

Posted by on Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Matthew Yglesias:

Indeed, perhaps the most telling exit poll result about Hispanics is the almost identical thumping Romney took with Asian and Jewish voters, and even more so with black voters. ... Gerald Ford got 17 percent of the black vote while losing overall, while Romney won less than 10 percent. As Tom Scocca wrote last week, all kinds of people vote Democratic, and it’s the Republicans who rely on a narrow ethnic niche to win. The real issue isn’t Democrats courting minority “special interests” (indeed, as an economic matter Latin American immigration is good for everyone except Americans who primarily speak Spanish), it’s Republicans who use targeted outreach to help boost their share of the white vote despite a generally unpersuasive message. Viewed in that light, the anti-Sotomayor demagoguery becomes far more comprehensible. Far from an unforced error, it’s part of a reasonably effective strategy to ensure the loyalty of white voters without altering an economic agenda that’s relentlessly biased toward the rich.

Ta-Nehisi Coates:

I am hearing a great deal of talk about "appealing to Hispanics" and "appealing to women." But I am not hearing much about endorsing actual policies. What happened last night is not a matter of cosmetics. This is not false consciousness. This a real response to real policies. Mitt Romney actually endorsed Arizona's immigration policies. You can't fix this by flashing more pictures of brown people.

This is not a "branding problem." This is a "problem problem." Latino voters didn't go crazy. Latino voters went voter.


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Pope Peabrain 1
Posted by Pope Peabrain on November 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 2
One of the things I am quite interested in is finding out how "The Catholic Vote" voted, particularly since the Bishops got absolutely hysterical in the last few months leading up to the election.

Hispanics tend to be Catholic, but Evangelicals and Mormons (as well as good old free thinking) are making inroads with them as well.

But supposing that the Hispanic vote is similar to the Catholic Vote, what does that tell the men in dresses, and that creepy old perv in the Vatican?
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay on November 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 3
Oooops! Wrong post. Sorry.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on November 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM · Report this

White Catholics, by contrast, swung strongly in the Republican direction relative to 2008. Nearly six-in-ten white Catholics (59%) voted for Romney, up from 52% who voted for McCain in 2008. Three-quarters of Hispanic Catholics voted for Obama, and Catholics as a whole were evenly divided in 2012 (50% voted for Obama, while 48% backed Romney).…
Posted by cgd on November 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM · Report this
Sargon Bighorn 5
The Democratic party showed itself to be a party of inclusion. They drew a very wide and clear line in the dirt that a progressive inclusive America includes Gay folk, Black folk, Brown folk, Women folk, Religious folk that respect Equality, and frankly every one. The Republicans actively and with a very public and focused effort pushed all those groups away from their "tent". Is it any wonder they did not take control of America, they wanted to have America for the Rich White Hetero Male.
Posted by Sargon Bighorn on November 8, 2012 at 12:32 PM · Report this
Catalina Vel-DuRay 6
Thank you, cgd dear.
Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay on November 8, 2012 at 12:49 PM · Report this
@ cgd

Worth mentioning that the white catholic vote just followed the trend of the overall white vote. That makes sense, because white catholics are a heterogeneous group that basically mirrors the white US population as a whole.
Posted by Joel_are on November 8, 2012 at 5:36 PM · Report this
@6 You're most welcome.
@7 You may be right, although the white non-evangelical Protestant vote didn't swing Republican.
Posted by cgd on November 8, 2012 at 8:05 PM · Report this
@8 While I believe that, I think Joel are's point was that Catholics are pretty much exactly the same proportions of conservatives/liberals/moderates as the general white population. The non-evangelical Protestants are probably more liberal than the white population at large. Catholics have conservatives and liberals and everyone in between. I think that's less true of Protestant religions- they tend to have one side of the spectrum or the other, but not both.
Posted by alguna_rubia on November 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM · Report this
@2: It's also worth pointing out that whites are pretty much the only race who votes based on whether the party and their religion match up on social issues.
Posted by alguna_rubia on November 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM · Report this
@10 White Catholic vote was down 1%, and the Hispanic Catholic vote was similarly down 1% (although the Hispanic vote in the whole US population was up), so one way or another, the Catholic hierarchy may be getting its wish for a smaller, ideologically purer church.
Posted by cgd on November 9, 2012 at 6:00 AM · Report this
Exactly. Republicans don't pay lip service to minorities because they think minorities will actually vote for them, they pay lip service to minorities to make white voters feel more secure that their candidate isn't racist.
Posted by Shannon Murphy on November 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM · Report this

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