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Sunday, October 28, 2012

Slog Mormon Study: Doctrine and Covenants 130:22

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[Slog Bible Study is on hiatus through the November election as we honor Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney by studying the scriptures of his Mormon religion.]

Doctrine and Covenants 130:22
The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

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Tacoma Traveler 1
In the Philippines (an intensely Catholic country), Nestle markets a very popular brand of instant coffee called "3 in 1". it tastes awful, but part of its success has been the usage of trinitarian implications in its advertising.

Interestingly, the Philippines also has the second-highest concentration of Mormons anywhere in the world. Their concept of god being non-trinitarian (two parts of god having two distinct physical bodies and one being something else altogether, and these three people not being one), I wonder what they think of this godawful tasting faux-coffee that Nestle pushes on the Philippines. Then again, Mormons don't drink coffee, so they probably hate it anyway.

All of this is quite sad, because the Philippines grows its own rather delicious coffee bean that is far more satisfying than ersatz instant coffee. Unfortunately, the local population seems to frown upon their home grown bean in favor of this imported 3-in-1.

Is this a metaphor of some kind? Or just a lament over marketing strategies depriving a nation of good coffee?
Posted by Tacoma Traveler on October 28, 2012 at 10:26 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 2
Ghosts? What is this, the Dark Ages? Superstitious nonsense.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on October 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM · Report this
MacCrocodile 3
Mormon pickup lines: Do you have some Holy Ghost in you? Do you want some?
Posted by MacCrocodile http://maccrocodile.com/ on October 28, 2012 at 11:48 AM · Report this
dnt trust me 4
Mormon pickup lines aren't all that different from Toyota or Chevy pickup lines. It's a little easier changing the oil on a pickup than compacts/sedans, don't you think Mccroc?
Posted by dnt trust me on October 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM · Report this
mikethehammer 5
Sounds like a job for Dr. Peter Venkman. He's got PhD's in both psychology AND parasychology, after all.
Posted by mikethehammer on October 28, 2012 at 12:22 PM · Report this
The Max 6
I've met a few other flesh and blood people who have claimed to be Gods. There's no great mystery to them. They're just crazy people with nice cars is all.
Posted by The Max on October 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM · Report this
blackhook 7
The Holy Ghost is a sneaky little fella. He is EVERYWHERE! Last night I saw Him (It?) slithering though my keyhole.
Posted by blackhook on October 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM · Report this
Cato the Younger Younger 8
Aren't all ghosts the personages of Satan and his works?
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on October 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 9
Well, duh.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on October 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM · Report this
rob! 10
So praying to be spiritually receptive makes you an ectoplasmic cum-dumpster. Never thought of it that way, but if that's what greases your skids...
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on October 28, 2012 at 2:41 PM · Report this
11
Maybe the Ghost is just a virus.

A retrovirus, most likely.
Posted by RonK, Seattle on October 28, 2012 at 3:29 PM · Report this
Fifty-Two-Eighty 12
You can always count on Goldy when you're looking for a clueless idiot.

I'm not defending Mormons here, but this is pretty straight-forward Christianity here. Not that Goldstein would have the first clue about that.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on October 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM · Report this
13
Actually 5280, this is a VERY different conception of God than traditional Christian thought... that's why (well, one of the main reasons) so many Protestants and Catholics don't consider Mormons actual Christians.

Posted by pacnwjay on October 28, 2012 at 5:36 PM · Report this
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@12, no, in the traditional Christian Trinity, the Father and Holy Ghost are both non-corporeal. In the LDS Trinity, only the Holy Ghost is non-corporeal.
Posted by MarBeth on October 28, 2012 at 5:41 PM · Report this
evilvolus 15
@14 - Jesus is also non-corporeal. He briefly took a human form, but the Being of the Son is spiritual.
Posted by evilvolus on October 28, 2012 at 6:31 PM · Report this
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More fun: God (Elohim) did not create the universe in the Mormon tradition. He sent Jesus and Michael (who later became Adam) to create it (along with others?) out of stuff that they found laying around.

Something like that, iirc.
Posted by rainbird on October 28, 2012 at 7:06 PM · Report this
kim in portland 18
@12,

Fifty-Two-Eighty,
I don't know of any Christian: mainline, Catholic, evangelical ... that share this view of the trinity. This is unique. Sorry.
Posted by kim in portland http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/fast-paced_video_provides_a_fu.html on October 28, 2012 at 7:34 PM · Report this
Goldy 20
@12 Not unless you consider Mormonism to be Christianity. God the father having a corporeal body of flesh and bones? That is a novel view of the Holy Trinity.
Posted by Goldy on October 28, 2012 at 8:56 PM · Report this
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@15 the Marcionites took that view, while the Ebionites took the opposite view. The eventual orthodox position was somewhere in the middle. Read Jesus Interrupted, pgs 255-260 for an overview of early Christian debates on this theological point. Hint, dont expect a solid reason to believe one way or the other.
Posted by wxPDX on October 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM · Report this
venomlash 22
@19: Where in it, then? I'm honestly curious. I looked around, and it seems like mainline Christianity holds that only the Son has a corporeal body, while the Father and the Holy Ghost are spiritual entirely.
Posted by venomlash on October 29, 2012 at 4:59 PM · Report this

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