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Friday, October 19, 2012

Grand Jury Refuser Leah-Lynn Plante Released from Federal Prison

Posted by on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM

She went in last week for refusing to speak to a grand jury about the May Day vandalism, spent a few days in solitary confinement, and has been released. Matt Duran and Katherine Olejnik are still imprisoned (without charges) for refusing to speak to the grand jury.

(Background on all of this is here.)

 

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This is fantastic news -- could it have anything to do with attorney Peter Mair's comments possibly embarrassing sleazoids, cretins and corrupt swine?????

More critical comments, please.....
Posted by sgt_doom on October 19, 2012 at 10:52 AM · Report this
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From the link, she sounds like a first-rate nutcase. The feds probably didn't want to have to pay for her electroshock treatments for the the rest of her life.
Posted by Mister G on October 19, 2012 at 11:00 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 3
@2 and highly qualified to run for elective office, therefore.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM · Report this
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I have as much sympathy for them as I do people refusing to pay their taxes.

Testifying is one of those obligations of citizenship.

They only have themselves to blame for being in jail.
Posted by giffy on October 19, 2012 at 11:54 AM · Report this
ScienceNerd 5
@4 What about the fifth amendment?
Posted by ScienceNerd http://stanichium.tumblr.com/ on October 19, 2012 at 11:58 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 6
@4 I distinctly do NOT remember Testifying as being one of the obligations of citizenship.

I do remember it in Catechism tho.

Are you confused, and think we live in a Theocracy?
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM · Report this
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@4

This was never a fifth amendment issue; these kids didn't take the stand and refuse to answer questions on fifth amendment grounds, they refused to be sworn in as witnesses at all.

Or at least the two men did; going by the note Brendan linked to, it seems pretty likely that Plante made some sort of deal with the grand jury.
Posted by robotslave on October 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM · Report this
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@5 The fifth amendment provides a limited exception to the general duty. There are some others such as attorney-client and other privlages.

If there was no ability of the courts to compel testimony then there would be no need to craft out exceptions.
Posted by giffy on October 19, 2012 at 12:12 PM · Report this
Max Solomon 9
@2: she's very young.

she gets to be as wierd as she wants to be - the pursuit of happiness, remember?
Posted by Max Solomon on October 19, 2012 at 1:05 PM · Report this
Lissa 10
@2: But at least she's not the variety of Seattle "progressive" that riles your bile so much.
So there's that.
Posted by Lissa on October 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM · Report this
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Thank you, Brendan, for keeping up on this story. It's nice to see someone not only covering it, but also not just telling the state's side of the story.
Posted by GLITUR_Chad on October 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM · Report this
Will in Seattle 12
@8 that's what we have drones for.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM · Report this
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I'm pretty sure that refusing to be sworn in or to testify befor a grand jury is contempt, and therefore they are not being held without charge. The question of why they were called, and the question of how dumb and weird this girl is, are completely separate. The 5th provides protection from self-incrimination, but I don't think it provides any protection from incriminating others.. right?

Also- if you are knowingly engaging in an act of civil disobedience with a likely outcome of detention, announcing that your mental health is poor after less than a week of detention probably indicates that you chose the wrong course of action. Does anyone remember a time when there were some hard motherfuckers on the left?
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on October 19, 2012 at 3:03 PM · Report this
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The edit to my post didn't take, for some reason- I asked if 'charge' was being used as a technical term, and contempt is technically not considered a charge, but a 'citation' or some such other thing. In the common understanding of the word, it seems as though it was suggested they were being held without 'cause', but contempt is clearly a cause, regardless of how valid the reason for them being there may or may not be.
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on October 19, 2012 at 3:10 PM · Report this
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@14

Grand jury refusal is treated as civil contempt, not criminal contempt*. So if we're going to split this particular hair, then there's no criminal charge, but there is cause.

Thus we can correctly if somewhat misleadingly say that Plante was held "without charge," but we can not correctly say she was held "without cause."

 

* however, a grand jury refuser might additionally be charged with criminal contempt, depending on the nature of the refusal, but this will only happen after the grand jury is dissolved.
Posted by robotslave on October 19, 2012 at 3:45 PM · Report this
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#9, how much you wanna bet she was discharged to a rubber room?
Posted by Mister G on October 19, 2012 at 3:50 PM · Report this
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@15- thanks- see, we all learned something.
Posted by Chris Jury http://www.thebismarck.net on October 19, 2012 at 5:04 PM · Report this
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giffy you should probably go down to the police station to make sure they dont need your testimony on anything, just to make sure you shouldnt be in prison. i know how much it would eat you up inside to know that youre just walking free when you might have commited some kind of crime of thought. its scary. giffy. please please go get in your cage. its safer for everyone. calm now. get in your cage.
Posted by peskypoop on October 20, 2012 at 5:04 AM · Report this
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@18

If you think your ideology isn't a cage, then you're definitely not the smartest chimp in the monkey house.
Posted by robotslave on October 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM · Report this
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Poor #18. So much angst, so little time.
Posted by Mister G on October 20, 2012 at 9:33 PM · Report this
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Please remember Matt and KteeO continue to be held in solitary for failure to cooperate with the grand jury. They need and deserve your support. For free and inexpensive ways to to help them go to http://funologist.org/2012/10/16/who-is-…
Posted by Paxus Calta on October 21, 2012 at 2:32 AM · Report this
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Please continue to support Matt and KteeO who remain in solitary without charge for refusing to cooperate with the grand jury. For details on how to support them please see http://funologist.org/2012/10/16/who-is-…
Posted by Paxus Calta on October 21, 2012 at 2:44 AM · Report this
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Sorry, but they don't deserve any support.
Posted by Mister G on October 21, 2012 at 11:13 PM · Report this
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Looks like the Free Leah tumblr that Brendan linked to has gone password-only before posting the promised further information.

I wonder if that counts as panic?
Posted by robotslave on October 21, 2012 at 11:22 PM · Report this
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Matt and KteeO are still in prison, though they have been moved to general populaation from solitary, which is a very good thing. You can find out how to inexpensively or freely support them at{

http://funologist.org/2012/10/23/who-are…
Posted by Paxus Calta on October 23, 2012 at 11:02 PM · Report this

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