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Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Paul Ryan: "30 percent [of Americans] want their welfare state"

Posted by on Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Paul Ryan is way more optimistic than Mitt Romney. Whereas his boss says 47% of Americans are leeches on the makers, Ryan says only 30% of Americans are filthy welfare queens:

Wotta guy. He sure does love numbers, that guy.

 

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biffp 1
He's paid by the government, and his wife is a lobbyist.

Over just three years, Ryan’s 20 corporate clients paid more than $2.7 million in lobbying fees to her two employers, Pricewaterhouse Coopers and Williams & Jensen, according to records compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

Her client roster reads like a who’s who of some of America’s most politically polarizing corporate interests. Drug industry clients included the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers Alliance (PhRMA), Wyeth Pharmaceuticals and Novartis. Oil industry clients included Conoco and Marathon Oil. Big health insurance companies Blue Cross Blue Shield and Cigna were also on the list.
Posted by biffp on October 2, 2012 at 3:20 PM
2
How many of those people are on Social Security, and how many work for the federal government? I am betting those numbers are really misleading.
Posted by Hanoumatoi on October 2, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Pope Peabrain 3
Does this include corporate subsidies? I'm guessing no. But that's a lot mooching of billions to ignore.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on October 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM
4
@1 Who? Jenna Ryan? I didn't hear this at the Republican Convention.

Here we go again! What's implied, I gather, is that it's those lazy blacks and Hispanics mooching off The Government as they waddle in poverty. They love poverty!

When did helping out your brother become some sort of moral failure, by the way?

However, I'm guessing those moochers he's referring to don't include massive corporations with generous tax breaks, or millionaires exploiting loopholes to pay 10% on their income, or large Mormon families relying on welfare to help fund their broods. Or poor and middle-income white Republican voters who are still having trouble getting by. Welfare, our great moral failure, only involves minorities in the ghettoes.
Posted by floater on October 2, 2012 at 3:39 PM
5
So instead of retracting, he's calibrating the insult. Nice.
Posted by Proteus on October 2, 2012 at 3:42 PM
biffp 6
@4, Jenna was. She's now a sweet mommy, but she used to be a tax attorney (from a long line of attorneys) and high-paid lobbyist representing those who'd benefit the most from repealing the Affordable Care Act.
Posted by biffp on October 2, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Will in Seattle 7
Well, of course they do.

Mind you, those are Red voters like him, so I don't see why Comrade Ryan is so upset.

Remember, both R and R took welfare and medicare.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on October 2, 2012 at 3:56 PM
rob! 8
(@5, the vid date is almost a year ago.)

Yes, a huge percentage of teabaggers are poor or lower-middle-class but assume they're on the road to becoming multi-millionaires when the Marketplace of Ideas finally recognizes their brilliance (SRotU being a case in point) and consistently vote against their reality-based economic self-interest.

So what's yer point, Munster?
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on October 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM
9
Since he uses the Tax Foundation as the basis of his argument, it's fun to see who the board of directors are on the Tax Foundation. Things that make you go hmmm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Foundat…
Posted by Jim from Kirkland on October 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM
10
How many members, exactly, are on his list of confirmed communists?
Posted by mark on October 2, 2012 at 4:53 PM
rob! 11
@9: "Joseph O. Luby, Jr." Any relation to Matt Luby, I wonder?
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on October 2, 2012 at 4:54 PM
Knat 12
"Those of you who know me know I'm kind of a numbers guy."

Well, most of America is at least acquainted with you now, but the majority of us have only heard rumors that you're a numbers guy. You've been awfully light on specifics since you got the second name on the ticket, Ryan.
Posted by Knat on October 2, 2012 at 5:49 PM
emma's bee 13
@12: he doesn't have the ti...It would take too long to explain it to you, Knat.
Posted by emma's bee on October 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM
14
If by 'American ideal' you mean Republican party platform and by 'numbers guy' you mean asshole, then I'm with you all the way.
Posted by Nezz on October 2, 2012 at 6:31 PM
Max Solomon 15
the American Dream is a fucking delusion, a carrot at the end of a stick dangled in front of gullible mules. no one wants to be in public housing, getting food stamps and ADC. it's humiliating, but not nearly as humiliating as taking charity from a religion.
Posted by Max Solomon on October 2, 2012 at 6:56 PM
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@2 About 13% of the US population is over 65 and therefore eligible for social security and medicare. Probably, more than half of the 20% of Americans who are dependent on the federal government are elderly. Ironically, this is also the age demographic where opposition to Obama is strongest.
Posted by Ken Mehlman on October 2, 2012 at 11:38 PM
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Ryan and Romney are such lovable fellows, huh? They really think that a large percentage of their fellow citizens are lazy moochers. Interesting.
Posted by Patricia Kayden on October 3, 2012 at 11:59 AM
sloegin 18
Republicans tweaking their numbers; their only admitted error, their targeted hate was too large a percentage this time.
Posted by sloegin on October 3, 2012 at 1:25 PM
19
Funny how the numbers guy hasn't looked at the *number* of votes his budget would get in the Senate. Here's a tip: close to zero. Most anti-government Republican Senators come from states that are permanently attached to the federal teat.
Posted by keshmeshi on October 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM

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