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Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Who Is in Charge? The Constitution or the People?

Posted by on Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM

One of the things that has long worried me about the Initiative 1053 lawsuit is that given its troubling history of "justiciability" rulings, the court's decision might ultimately be moot.

The state Supreme Court might very well toss out the initiative's two-thirds supermajority requirement, but by the time the next legislative session is gaveled to order in January, it is I-1185 that could be on the books, not I-1053. And while the underlying constitutional issue might have already been settled, I can still imagine a long drawn out battle over standing and ripeness that leaves I-1185 in force for months if not years.

I know that sounds crazy. But no crazier than Solicitor General Maureen Hart's bizarre argument that the issue only becomes justiciable, not with the passage of the law or even its enforcement, but with its violation.

And so it was with great interest at our SECB interview this afternoon that I posed to Republican Lt. Governor candidate Bill Finkbeiner the following question: If the court were to rule I-1053 unconstitutional, but the people approve I-1185 at the polls, would he rule in his parliamentarian role as President of the Senate that a tax-hike bill passed or failed on simple majority vote?

Although he says he voted for I-1053, and will vote for I-1185, Finkbeiner says he would follow settled constitutional law, not the statute on the books. He would rule a simple majority sufficient to pass a tax measure.

That is reassuring.

 

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TheMisanthrope 1
Why don't you do some investigative reporting on how the plaintiffs of the lawsuit plan to address the needed restructuring of our tax system into a more progressive structure if they succeed in repealing the initiatives?

Or, how about asking them what their plan for new tax hikes will be.

Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by TheMisanthrope on September 26, 2012 at 2:45 PM
pdonahue 2
Point taken, although I may bitch a lot about Eyeman and his army, the real issue of tax revolts have yet to be addressed. While I may not agree that WA should become a Bantustand of gated communities, the rest of the voting public is sick of the lottery and tobacco paying for basic services.
The levy for operating expenses for the library was last straw, have they no shame? I agree, dig into how our tax system can be made more progressive instead of defensively beating back another Eyeman initiative.
Posted by pdonahue on September 26, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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I think that a large part of the problem is that we tend to ask the electorate taxation questions individually and separate from spending questions. You could not make a realistic household budget in this manner, and there, all of that spending is actually on people you putatively care about.

It is almost always true that the correct answer to do you want to pay a higher tax is "No".

Instead of these bullshit balanced budget policies that attempt to cut programs formulaically, there should be an automatic tax adjustment escalator that either kicks in a special predefined tax, or simply raises all taxes proportionally to cover shortfalls.

Ultimately, and I think the Stranger should push this as an Initiative, all future taxation initiatives should be required by statue to include the word dumbfuck and state, in the vernacular what all is funded, such as: Hey dumbfuck, you want people who can afford nicer cars to chip in more money to fix up our roads and shit as part of their yearly registration: _ Fuck Yeah! or _ Shit No!
Posted by Founding Fathers Were Skeptical Of Democracy on September 26, 2012 at 3:39 PM
BLUE 4
I don't get it. For the feds, the legal question has to be ripe. Just passing a law does not make it ripe - there has to be an injury or threatened injury to plaintiff. One could argue (if not successfully) that until the legislature passes (or doesn't) a measure based on the dictates of the initiative then there has been no injury.
Posted by BLUE on September 26, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Will in Seattle 5
You mean like them taxing people who don't use the Billionaires Tunnel?

Oh, wait, you're ignoring the real news of the day.

Never mind.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on September 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Teslick 6
From the Department of Revenue:
In the first of many subsequent instances of citizens attempting to directly influence the tax system, the voters approved two initiatives in 1932. One imposed a limitation on property tax rates equal to 40 mills (one mill = 0.001). The other established a state personal and corporate income tax. This was intended to provide more balance to the tax system and reduce property taxes. However, in a landmark decision handed down in early 1933, the State Supreme Court disallowed the income tax by interpreting income as constituting property and therefore implying that a tax on income would be in violation of the Constitution unless it were applied uniformly. (Because of personal exemptions and graduated rates, income taxes are rarely uniform.)
The income tax passed with over 70%, so I guess if the Legislature wanted to bring it back, that would be ok, as it was the "will of the people".
Posted by Teslick on September 26, 2012 at 6:14 PM
Steve Zemke 7
If you believe the State Supreme Court on uniformity then it should be possible to challenge all of the tax exemptions for B & O taxes by various businesses as unconstitutional since they also affect the income of businesses including individual businesses owned by one person but result in B&O taxes being set at different rates for different businesses.
Posted by Steve Zemke http://www.majorityrules.org on October 2, 2012 at 9:00 AM
BombasticMO 8
Did Brad Owen have an answer?
Posted by BombasticMO http://www.BombasticMo.com on October 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM

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