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Friday, September 7, 2012

Troops Not Important to Romney

Posted by on Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Kos:

Asked by a friendly news outlet why he didn't bother praising our troops in his speech, Romney responded: "When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things you think are important." Wrong answer. You thank the fucking troops. They are not a laundry list. And while Romney might not think they are important, they kind of are.

Let's play let's pretend! Let's pretend that someone the Democrats had nominated for president did and said this—failed to mention the troops in his acceptance speech, then said he doesn't think the troops are important—and then imagine the 24/7 shit storm on Fox, on Limbaugh, on Breitbart, in Michelle Malkin's pants, etc.

I just forwarded this to my nephew the Marine. Make sure your friends and relatives in the armed services see it, okay?

 

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IOIYAR.IOIYAR.

Honestly, what's the point in being surprised anymore? Good thing the librul media is bringing this to everyone's attention, eh?
Posted by johnjjeeves on September 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM · Report this
seatackled 2
Don't need much imagination--you saw what happened when they didn't use the word God in their platform.

When Fox reporters were making a big deal of it--there's an interview of a Democrat by Greta what'sherface--the Democrats should have asked the reporters why they weren't wearing flag pins.
Posted by seatackled on September 7, 2012 at 11:34 AM · Report this
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surely everyone in the military will vote for Obama.

'cause they hope to be in Afghanistan for the next 30 years....
Posted by Necessary War! on September 7, 2012 at 11:39 AM · Report this
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I really want to hear what your Marine nephew thinks. The military is a different animal than the rest of us. Words are just words, I think. I suspect he wouldn't give a shit about whether there was lip service or not. He would want to know the actions behind the words. That is just a guess on my part. I hope he gives you permission to share his reaction with us.
Posted by bareboards on September 7, 2012 at 11:41 AM · Report this
Pope Peabrain 5
As a veteran of the Vietnam era, I think Rmoney stinks. But this is a window into the Republican party and it's contempt for those they send into war. And Rmoney didn't serve. He doesn't have a clue as to what's important. The only person he gives a shit about is himself.
Posted by Pope Peabrain on September 7, 2012 at 11:41 AM · Report this
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I can see what he meant here - I hate the whole laundry list thing, on par with wearing a flag pin and saying "god bless the united states of america" at the end of the speech. But even I know you don't say that about the troops in an interview, especially not implying they aren't important. What this just points out is that he can't be counted on to say the sensible thing when it's needed (just like all the mistakes on his Europe trip). A Romney Presidency would be, among other things, a series of embarrassing statements - not stupid like GWB, just clueless and socially inept.
Posted by Jude Fawley on September 7, 2012 at 11:43 AM · Report this
Urgutha Forka 7
Let's see...
God and Jerusalem = Important

U.S. Troops = Not Important

Got it. What's next republicans?
Posted by Urgutha Forka on September 7, 2012 at 11:43 AM · Report this
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The lie banner under Romney is a perfect microcosm of the campaign he is running. When Obama pushed to rescue the auto industry, he did it over vociferous Republican objections, and Romney himself penned an op-ed arguing that Detroit should be allowed to go bankrupt ("severe" conservatism in action). Now that the bailout of the auto industry has been proven to be a great success that saved many jobs, Ryan and Romney are blaming Obama for plants that closed while Bush was president. Sweet Jesus, can we just flush these lying turds already? Why the hell is this election even close?
Posted by esperando on September 7, 2012 at 11:43 AM · Report this
Zebes 9
Look, folks, the best way, the Republican way to honor the troops, is to just throw them into meat grinder after meat grinder until they are utterly exhausted, and then publically mourn their untimely loss. Anything else is just lip service. Now how about that Iran, right? About time we fucked THAT shit up, isn't it?
Posted by Zebes http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.html on September 7, 2012 at 11:44 AM · Report this
levide 10
This should be run on all news programs all day every day until the debates. Too bad it won't be.
Posted by levide on September 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM · Report this
keshmeshi 11
@8,

Because most Americans are ignorant, either inherently or willfully. It's really astounding when I occasionally pop my head out of the liberal echo chamber, how much everyday Americans spout right-wing talking points. Most of the time they don't even have the slightest fucking idea what they're saying actually means.
Posted by keshmeshi on September 7, 2012 at 11:59 AM · Report this
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The way Republicans honor the troops is to throw them into multi-country meat grinders, as Zebes said above, but then keep them alive and bring them back so horribly injured, body and mind, that they are a danger to themselves and everyone else, and then starve the VA so that they don't get treatment. That's Republican honor.
Posted by sarah70 on September 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM · Report this
seatackled 13
Did people catch that last part? "I didn't use the word troops, I used the word military. I think they refer to the same thing."

Not quite.
Posted by seatackled on September 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM · Report this
seatackled 14
I want to hear what Mark Owen thinks about this.
Posted by seatackled on September 7, 2012 at 12:13 PM · Report this
dnt trust me 15
Dan, say Hi to your nephew from me next time you guys hang out. Talking with family members is so much more gratifying than reading noise on a blog.
Posted by dnt trust me on September 7, 2012 at 12:16 PM · Report this
Posted by sgt_doom on September 7, 2012 at 12:17 PM · Report this
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They talk about individualism, but then focus more on the well-being of abstract entities, rather than the well-being of the individuals that make up those entities: corporations instead of people, the military instead of troops, the church instead of the congregation.
Posted by dirge on September 7, 2012 at 12:22 PM · Report this
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Holy cripes. Mitt Romney is such an asshole.
Posted by rainbird on September 7, 2012 at 12:23 PM · Report this
Cracker Jack 19
@15: Then shouldn't you go upstairs and talk to your mom?
Posted by Cracker Jack on September 7, 2012 at 12:33 PM · Report this
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Umm 12. It's a myth that hurts a lot of veterans that we all come home all jacked up in the head and are a danger to our communities. As for thanking the troops, its nice to hear when you are in a remote corner of the world and home seems very far away
Posted by jiberish on September 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM · Report this
biffp 21
Troops and military spending don't refer to the same thing. He'd love to funnel more money to KBR and Blackwater, but he has no interest in the moral obligation to the troops overseas or returning home. Arrogant fucking asshole.
Posted by biffp on September 7, 2012 at 12:41 PM · Report this
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He's looking not well.
Posted by paulus on September 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM · Report this
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What exactly is he supposed to thank the troops for? Failure in Iraq? Failure in Afghanistan?

Maybe he should thank them for risking their lives, but here's the thing: as a soldier, you don't just risk your own life, you risk the life of whoever brass tells you to kill. If you think that's a good idea I'll thank you in advance for killing yourself before you kill anybody else.

Mitt Romney was right to dodge the draft and right to use every advantage he had to do it. Anybody with a shred of confidence in the value of their own life wouldn't throw themselves onto the shitheap like that. What he's missing is that no human being should ever go to war, for the exact same reasons he didn't.
Posted by effthearmy on September 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM · Report this
biffp 24
@3, please point to anything that supports your assertion that Romney wants the war in Afghanistan.
Posted by biffp on September 7, 2012 at 12:46 PM · Report this
biffp 25
@23, why don't you put your name on those statements?
Posted by biffp on September 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM · Report this
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I'd have to agree that this is a foot-in-the-mouth issue. I don't think that Romney thinks that the troops aren't important and I can get what he's saying about not mentioning every single issue in every single speech.

Let's hope its as big of a slip up as Al Gore's "I invented the Internet."
Posted by DRF on September 7, 2012 at 12:52 PM · Report this
dnt trust me 27
@19 you're right. my comments of late are showing a lack of interest in Slog. Breaking up is so hard to do! 'tears' Mommmy!
Posted by dnt trust me on September 7, 2012 at 12:55 PM · Report this
STJA 28
Dan, you're that kind of uncle?
Posted by STJA on September 7, 2012 at 1:14 PM · Report this
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@26 Which of course Al Gore never said.

What he did do was vigorously champion legislation that helped lead to the internet's creation. But you know, liberal media...
Posted by dirge on September 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM · Report this
geoz 30
I think you are right that the left would get slammed, but I think the right has already made a case that they love the military more than the right. And let's be fair... they do. They love the power, the hawkish way of life.

The left likes the military to be there, as protection, and occasionally to right a wrong. But I don't think the left has the love affair the right does. The right has little to prove on this point. However, the love of the right means that more of our men and women die. Aye, there's the rub. And the repeated misuse of military power (WMD lie for example, "mission accomplished" banner), and very serious invasions, torture of opposing military which opens up torure for our guys, the poor equipment (remember the un-armored HUMVEEs?) and poor hospital care (Walter Reed anyone?) seems to have little impact on the military voting base.... which I don't get.
Posted by geoz on September 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM · Report this
merry 31
God, I love it when the mask slips and we get to see the REAL Rmoney, not just the shiny Repugobot that's running for office... Almost as good as when McKenna snarls "Get a job!" at a citizen asking a question...

Keep it up, guys, keep it up...
Posted by merry on September 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM · Report this
balderdash 32
Look, Mitt Romney is an inhuman piece of shit, but can we maybe try to get past our idolatry for the armed forces? They're the sharp end of a massive imperialist machine, and you know what? I don't support them, not willingly. I want them home, and unarmed, and in gainful civilian employment. I don't want them to be troops at all! And I certainly don't support them being overseas, wrecking other people's infrastructures and killing civilians no matter how hard they try to avoid it. If I thought a candidate for public office were saying something similar, rather than in this case just spitefully refusing to mention something his opponent is clearly benefiting from, I'd get behind that.

You're not fucking un-American if you don't "support our troops." You are, however, an idiot if you're running for President on a Republican ticket and you don't say that you support our troops.
Posted by balderdash http://introverse.blogspot.com on September 7, 2012 at 2:01 PM · Report this
Cracker Jack 33
@26: But the thing is, that speech was written, vetted, re-written, focus grouped, edited, shot with X-Rays, run up the flag-pole and then polished and throughout that whole process no one thought that not mentioning the troops was a mistake?

Sounds to me like they thought the 15 seconds were better spent elsewhere.
Posted by Cracker Jack on September 7, 2012 at 2:01 PM · Report this
COMTE 34
@27:

Actually, it's pretty easy; here, I'll help:

I break with thee, I break with thee, I break with thee.

Now, please stand still whilst I throw this dog poop on your shoes...
Posted by COMTE on September 7, 2012 at 2:05 PM · Report this
Granny Smith 35
Mr Romney cares about the companies that sell to the military. That is where the extra money goes, not to the troops. He cares about those on the front line of the military just the same as those on the assembly line. This is about as transparent at it gets. People are just numbers to Mitt.
Posted by Granny Smith on September 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM · Report this
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Wowwwwww. And the man hasn't even been elected yet. We are in for hell if he wins.
Posted by floater on September 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM · Report this
Dougsf 37
Scrolling through his speech, let's see... he mentions church, old people, college tuition, small business owners, Neil Armstrong, his wife, his wife's parent's sofa, U-S-A, U-S-A, his dad, the Mexican revolution, his mom's dreams of being an actress, God, a bunch of Governors, more church... my God I can't keep watching. Does he know the job entitles being the Commander in Chief?
Posted by Dougsf on September 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM · Report this
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@37 So basically, he had a laundry list. He just didn't think our troops were worthy of being included.

Of course, if Fox News had any reporters who weren't trained Republican lapdogs... Well, Romney wouldn't have even been on to be interviewed. Sigh...
Posted by Brooklyn Reader on September 7, 2012 at 3:46 PM · Report this
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@25 Why, when they have the guns, the authority, the assent, popularity, even worship, not only from the people but from both mainstream political parties -- why, in that case, should I also give them my name? I'm here and I'm happy to read and respond to any serious replies.
Posted by effthearmy on September 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM · Report this
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His wife's parents' sofa. Higher up the laundry list than thanking the troops. The Rs have a furniture fetish.
Posted by originalcinner on September 7, 2012 at 5:26 PM · Report this
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As a 22 year Vet Romney disgusts me! Another chicken hawk willing to send someone elses sons and daughters off to war, when his country needed him during Vietnam he did everything in his power to avoid service.
Posted by Blackhorse on September 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM · Report this
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 42
@13- A friend made the same point to me on Facebook and tied it to his "corporations are people" thinking. The big entity that gets all the work done is important, the humans are just cogs in the machines.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceclop on September 7, 2012 at 6:25 PM · Report this
Free Lunch 43
To me, the Dems complaining about Romney not thanking the troops in his speech is as fainting-couch ridiculous as the GOP fanning themselves over the removal of God from the Democratic platform.

But when Romney says thanking the troops wasn't as important as the meaningless drivel he had IN there, well, that's fair game.

After all, the Democrats didn't say, "We left it God out because God isn't as important as the other stuff." No - they ate crow and backtracked on that ridiculously stupid blunder.

Here's how to behave like a candidate who has a chance of winning, Romney:

"I feel terrible for not mentioning the troops!. That was an unforgivable oversight." [Looks sincerely into the camera.] "All of you fighting for us over in Afghanistan, I just want you to know that I thank God for your brave and selfless service every day, and you are constantly in Ann's and my prayers."
Posted by Free Lunch on September 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM · Report this
Knat 44
Poorly worded, sure, but hardly Romney saying he doesn't care about the troops. And just because Fox et al are shits without a shred of integrity, that doesn't give you carte blanche to act similarly.
Posted by Knat on September 7, 2012 at 10:20 PM · Report this
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"Military" doesn't equal "troops". The former includes defense contractors, etc., who I'm sure will do very well under either candidate, but especially Romney.
Posted by Jeph on September 7, 2012 at 10:38 PM · Report this
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The issue is not that Romney doesn't care about the troops. The issue is that he said something as stupid as that when he knew the question would be asked and he had over a week to prepare an answer.

I suppose you could claim this is being taken out of context, but does the GOP really want to go down that road? The GOP just built its entire convention around an out of context statement by Obama.

Now I understand why Mitt is so bad at ad libbing. Good luck in the debates Mitt, you're going to need it..
Posted by ddt58 on September 8, 2012 at 2:58 AM · Report this
DeaconBlues 47
yo I'm ex-navy

and you know what I would like most?

if people stopped using me and my former comrades as political footballs

that would be ace

I seriously do not give two shits about the fact that a known liar and general piece of shit didn't take the time to thank the troops

you want to talk about Romney and the troops, how about this: what I give a shit about is the fact that he used every deferment he could to avoid vietnam, and counterprotested students who protested losing THEIR deferments, and then went to France on "mission," and then came home having used his unique position in society to completely avoid yet another unjust horseshit war of American aggression, and then, forty years later, is running for president on the ticket of the most hawkish party at the most hawkish time in our history

that's a man who has no problem with men being sent to their deaths as long as he's not one of them

that's a man who won't think twice about sending those men and women to die himself

and that makes me nervous as all hell
Posted by DeaconBlues http://radzillas.blogspot.com/ on September 8, 2012 at 4:34 AM · Report this
venomlash 48
@39: Is something bad going to happen to you if you attach your statements to your real name? Or even to a persistent pseudonym?
Posted by venomlash on September 8, 2012 at 5:11 AM · Report this
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you girls are wasting you time on this trivia.....

here; enjoy this DNC highlight reel ----

1- Clinton making the case that:
Obama hasn't gotten the job done-not even close- but, hey!- even a demigod like me couldn't have done it.....(plus reminding everyone how much they miss Bill and what a limp noodle Obama is)

2- The vicious snarling angry rank and file Democraps rejecting God and Jerusalem (with the yummy icing of the total fiasco hamfisted clumsy way in which it was handled, managing to Piss Off and Disgust, literally, every band on the ideological spectrum- the Godless Heathens know they had the votes to defeat the measure but were screwed over and ignored and humiliated and Godfearing Real America not at all fooled by the cosmetic repair to the platform.)
Priceless.........

3- Obama's limp speech, confirming the impression of inadequacy created by Bill's boffo performance and hinting at the job numbers to come....

4- the truly frighteningly GRIM job numbers that rushed in before the hangovers were even gone mocking the Democraps party.

damn. You couldn't make up stuff this good.......
Posted by Pshaaw! on September 8, 2012 at 5:29 AM · Report this
jcsmith2 50
@47 - Fuckin'-a Bubba. That said, the Republican Party has traditionally been known as the party on the side of the "military", which has always been a crock. To me things like this, and lack of acknowledgement that we're currently operating in an active theater of war during their national convention show the truth - The Republican Party has never been truly pro-military, they're pro-defense industry.
Posted by jcsmith2 on September 8, 2012 at 9:40 AM · Report this
jcsmith2 51
I should add to my previous comment - US Navy '82-'86
Posted by jcsmith2 on September 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM · Report this

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