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News & ArtsThursday, August 30, 2012
2012 Gold Star Comment of Yesterday
Posted by Eli Sanders on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:00 AM
- Robert Ullman
In my piece about former state supreme court justice Richard B. Sanders's attempt to get back on the bench, I page through the man's history of being, as one knowledgeable person put it, "inexcusably insensitive on women's issues."
One example: Sanders's 2005 dissent in a case involving a middle school teacher who'd had a sexual relationship with a 13-year-old student.
Sanders, noting that the girl had at one point lied about the relationship, suggested she was partly to blame for what transpired. "She may be below the age of consent, but not below the age of honesty," Sanders wrote in his dissent, warning that the majority's ruling could encourage girls below the age of consent to "seduce" their teachers.
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@1: Joe McDermott, Mike McGinn, John Dunn, Jay Inslee, Adam Smith, James Deal, Craig Pridemore, Bob Ferguson, Peter Goldmark....
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I thought one of the advantages of being an adult is that you take responsibility for your actions. And that children had to have a legal guardian because they are not deemed self-responsible. Goes to show that those evil women can seduce the skin off a snake, or was it the legs? Just shouldn't be so damned attractive.
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Always adorable when you see a budding young troll trying prove how he can do big boy stuff.
Now put down those scissors, Stranger'sWorstNightmare, it's naptime.
Now put down those scissors, Stranger'sWorstNightmare, it's naptime.
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At the risk of getting gang slammed by fellow SLOG commenters, I wanted to ask a question (bad idea, I know).
There seems to be a symmetry in the SLOG mindset that the "gay" of the heterosexual world is underage.
So, therefore, when gays are attacked, SLOG goes after the asymmetric age relationships...tit for tat.
But is it? I mean, are there no gay liberal democrats with 20 years difference between partners.
It seems like displacement behavior...where you can't fight the real bullies, so you go punch a kid who is even more weak than you.
There seems to be a symmetry in the SLOG mindset that the "gay" of the heterosexual world is underage.
So, therefore, when gays are attacked, SLOG goes after the asymmetric age relationships...tit for tat.
But is it? I mean, are there no gay liberal democrats with 20 years difference between partners.
It seems like displacement behavior...where you can't fight the real bullies, so you go punch a kid who is even more weak than you.
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@6 that's the funny thing about all the trolls on Slog, except for Seattleblues on days when he's not warning us with threats of his imminent departure to go live in the hills of Tuscany, where there are no gay people for a thousand miles.
A successful troll generates anger, derailment of discussion, outrage, and responses of anger and engagement. All our trolls are pretty much able to ever achieve is a bunch of us mocking them for being poor trolls.
Everyone then counter-trolls the troll with effective trolling of the troll. Every day. You'd think they'd up the troll game or just give up. You'd have more success trolling your dog by repeatedly pretending to toss a ball but not actually tossing it.
A successful troll generates anger, derailment of discussion, outrage, and responses of anger and engagement. All our trolls are pretty much able to ever achieve is a bunch of us mocking them for being poor trolls.
Troll: Tee hee, this will annoy all them Slog users and staff!
Troll posts the comment that says, "You hate non-Slog target demographic people and pander to minorities!"
Troll: There, that will ruin their day and I'll get lots of responses! My internet ego is afire with joy!
Everyone then counter-trolls the troll with effective trolling of the troll. Every day. You'd think they'd up the troll game or just give up. You'd have more success trolling your dog by repeatedly pretending to toss a ball but not actually tossing it.
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@8
I agree. It's more advisable (and fun) to just try to be more obnoxious than the troll. Sure you might irritate many normal inhabitants of a blog, but whatever, I find a lot of you irritating anyway. Just in the case of StrangersLaziestDaydream, I don't bother because there's so little substance. Troll harder, bro, seriously.
I agree. It's more advisable (and fun) to just try to be more obnoxious than the troll. Sure you might irritate many normal inhabitants of a blog, but whatever, I find a lot of you irritating anyway. Just in the case of StrangersLaziestDaydream, I don't bother because there's so little substance. Troll harder, bro, seriously.
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Judges, Catholic leaders, same difference, right?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29…
It's those evil, sexy children defiling these innocent adults. This is what they honestly want you to believe.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29…
It's those evil, sexy children defiling these innocent adults. This is what they honestly want you to believe.
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@7 - I'm not sure I understand the question. My boyfriend is twelve years older than me, but we never started dating until I was well over the age of consent (never mind that we've only even known each other for about a year, and I haven't been underage since the twentieth century). The issue isn't asymmetry of age, but asymmetry of power: parent over child, teacher over student, priest over child-whose-parents-insist-it's-good-for-him, and so on. I am, for all intents and purposes, empowered to leave my boyfriend if he abuses me physically or emotionally, and if I don't, I am legally responsible for the consequences of my own actions.
The age of consent is an arbitrary line below which we determine that a person has no power, and thus no authority to consent to sexual behavior. In many places, there is an additional law against teachers having sex with their students, regardless of their ages, simply because of that abuse of power.
The age of consent is an arbitrary line below which we determine that a person has no power, and thus no authority to consent to sexual behavior. In many places, there is an additional law against teachers having sex with their students, regardless of their ages, simply because of that abuse of power.
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@11, a moment spent trying to figure out what knee-jerk synaptic fault Bailo is attempting to communicate is a moment wasted forever.
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"There seems to be a symmetry in the SLOG mindset"
I'm only mildly high, but how does this make so little sense? Do you mean we are all in agreement? What does "symmetry" (spelled correctly, what??!) have to do with the "SLOG mindset"? Also, remind me again: what is the "SLOG mindset"?
"that the 'gay' of the heterosexual world is underage."
Again, a nonsensical statement. Someone help me out here.
"So, therefore, when gays are attacked, SLOG goes after the asymmetric age relationships...tit for tat."
Ummm.
"But is it? I mean, are there no gay liberal democrats with 20 years difference between partners."
I think this was answered above.
"It seems like displacement behavior...where you can't fight the real bullies, so you go punch a kid who is even more weak than you."
Who is this kid? I can't even imagine who you're talking about. Stupid crazy.
I'm only mildly high, but how does this make so little sense? Do you mean we are all in agreement? What does "symmetry" (spelled correctly, what??!) have to do with the "SLOG mindset"? Also, remind me again: what is the "SLOG mindset"?
"that the 'gay' of the heterosexual world is underage."
Again, a nonsensical statement. Someone help me out here.
"So, therefore, when gays are attacked, SLOG goes after the asymmetric age relationships...tit for tat."
Ummm.
"But is it? I mean, are there no gay liberal democrats with 20 years difference between partners."
I think this was answered above.
"It seems like displacement behavior...where you can't fight the real bullies, so you go punch a kid who is even more weak than you."
Who is this kid? I can't even imagine who you're talking about. Stupid crazy.
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