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Monday, June 25, 2012

New Records Show Feds Upset with City's Immature Attitude and Impotent Police Reforms

Posted by on Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:52 PM

For months now, numerous documents exchanged during the city's negotiations with federal lawyers were under lock and key.

But less than an hour ago and without much explanation, Mayor Mike McGinn's office posted online numerous records relating to the negotiations with the US Department of Justice. And it appears relations have been awful. The two parties have been attempting to reach terms of a court settlement that would end the police department's pattern of using excessive force, a problem detailed in a critical DOJ report in December.

The city posted its lengthy proposal for a court settlement (and in an update at the bottom of this post, I've posted the DOJ's original proposal and a joint statement from both parties). But of the documents now online, the most immediately notable are the harsh words from federal authorities:

"We have been very discouraged by the way these negotiations have been handled by the City," says a terse May 16 letter to city officials from John Smith at the US Attorney's office. He blasts the city for failing to address issues of discriminatory policing in its proposals.

Moreover, Smith says, "The city has made this process unnecessarily contentious and personal," adding that this attitude "raises the risk of unnecessary litigation."

In a letter the following week, Smith writes to the city again about its settlement proposal. "The city's proposal will not achieve reform that is measurable and enforceable," says a May 23 letter from Smith. He adds that the feds reject the city's attempt at "piece meal bartering" and say the "positions take by the city in negotiations are making settlement unlikely."

There are several other documents—too many synthesize quickly in this post—so TAKE A LOOK. If you see something, say something.

UPDATE at 6:15 pm: The DOJ has now issued its counter proposal for a court agreement with city. I've uploaded it HERE. Furthermore, the DOJ and city say in a joint statement that they are currently in mediation and they will accept make no further public comments, what appears to be a rebuke of advocacy groups that wanted a seat at the table during negotiations. [Updated to make it clear that it's the parties who will make no further comment. The city and DOJ have not made a statement about other parties joining the negotiations.]

"In an effort to increase transparency and respond to the broad public interest in proposed reforms of the Seattle Police Department, the Department of Justice and the City of Seattle jointly have agreed to release their initial settlement proposals," says the joint statement. "These proposals have served as the starting point for negotiations between the parties to reach an agreement on all issues. We continue to move forward with those negotiations beyond these documents and are currently in mediation. While the mediation is ongoing, the parties have agreed that further public comment on the substance of the initial proposals and the status of the ongoing talks would be counter-productive to progress and long-term reform efforts."

 

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gloomy gus 1
I love how the Mayor's lawyer suggests in his May 31 letter that DOJ has misunderstood pretty much everything about the City's awesome efforts (ha!) and DOJ refuses to acknowledge that so maybe McGinn should talk directly to Attorney General Eric Holder. Jesus fuck whatta nerve.
Posted by gloomy gus on June 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM
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Y'don't say? Seattle's establishment pushing back on police reform?

Posted by TravisConquest on June 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM
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Other than seriously chafing the nerves of SPD and other city leaders, I don't have much faith that even a federal consent decree would change much. Look at Oakland's consent decree. Extended several times and their cops are still racist psychos. Oh yeah, probably because they have to be because otherwise there would be some kind of crazy, inspiring social revolution.
Posted by blackgreens on June 25, 2012 at 6:17 PM
gloomy gus 4
@3, it's improved LA policing hugely. Just hugely. They remain flawed but the process hsa made things materially better for all of LA's citizens, and recaptured so much credibility for the city too. We should be so lucky.
Posted by gloomy gus on June 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM
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Why would they be more competent at negotiating than they are at policing or governing?
Posted by also on June 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM
biffp 6
This is a big failing by the mayor. I've been on the fence, but this is crap and the pepper spray incident over the weekend really illustrates the lack of leadership. The city and the police force deserve better. There are a lot of good cops in Seattle.
Posted by biffp on June 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM
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@4 Unfortunately regular (non-excessive-force/by-the-book) policing is also completely fucked as the police are there to enforce a system of laws that are mostly also completely fucked. (You know, that whole "war on drugs" thing to start.) I have no doubt that LA policing continues to be racist and violent and conservative even if the most spectacular instances of cop violence are off your radar.
Posted by blackgreens on June 25, 2012 at 6:34 PM
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Not to mention, the entire "justice" system is based on punishment and not rehabilitation or restoration.
Posted by blackgreens on June 25, 2012 at 6:37 PM
gloomy gus 9
@7, if it can't be 100% you refuse any reform at all? Try to think of the people who are going to escape needless suffering if the DOJ can shape up at least the worst abuses at SPD. It makes sense to press for this reform for their sake, even though you know it won't solve everything all at once..
Posted by gloomy gus on June 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM
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From the DOJ reform plan: "The unconstitutional patterns include, but are not limited to, the following: (1) the use of excessive force in the course of arrests for minor offenses; (2) the use of excessive force inflicted by multiple officers on one person;"

I saw both of these unconstitutional patterns in the video of SPD actions from this weekend. McGinn is ultimately responsible for this, but he does nothing. I hope the DOJ can force some changes.
Posted by Asdfgh on June 25, 2012 at 8:31 PM
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Good luck with any reform at all as long as slackwit McGinn's involved.
Posted by Katch22.2 on June 25, 2012 at 8:34 PM
Joe Szilagyi 12
McGinn is a useless coward unwilling to stand up in public to SPD brass and the political bogeyman of the SPOG, of which 93% or so aren't even Seattle residents.

I regret ever having trying to turn people around to support him (several successfully), voting for him, defending him, or considering voting for him. All the bicycle shit aside, he put on false airs of being some sort of progressive. He's another useless piece of political meat out to better himself by extension of his career by playing it safe. Fuck off back to your basement dweller bike advocacy roles, Mike.

If the Stranger supports him any longer via SECB, you're all smoking Rich O'neill's pole.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on June 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM
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Lemme guess -- DOJ wants to take away SPD's pepper spray?
Posted by idaho on June 25, 2012 at 10:04 PM
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I just want to compliment SLOG and Dominic for the good reporting on this issue. The ONLY good reporting on this issue.
Posted by sarah70 on June 25, 2012 at 11:23 PM
Kinison 15
Sounds like the mayor is doing everything he can to avoid his responsibilities.
Posted by Kinison http://www.holgatehawks.com on June 26, 2012 at 7:51 AM
Cato the Younger Younger 16
I can't believe I am going to say this...I almost miss Nickels. God, I can't belive I just typed that.

So, can we get Peter to run for Mayor next year?
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger on June 26, 2012 at 7:54 AM
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until mcginn holmes and diaz come forward and

ADMIT there is a problem, they can't be trusted to solve it.

They should also identify all the victims of the illegal force, tell them who they are and review their criminal convictions -- if an officer lied about the force used, maybe they lied about the whole encounter. officers using illegal violence should be disciplined. the DoJ studied 1230 uses of force and found 20% are illegal force which means hundreds of victims, hundreds of guilty officers and dozens of higher ups who covered it all up or at best were so fucking asleep at the switch it's almost the same thing. the whole point of the city response to date seems to be to make sure that all this is leveraged to get more money for more SPD jobs -- and to ensure not one victim is ever identified or made amends to, and not one officer actually gets the slightest ding letter in their file or gets fired. it's all one big mutual job protection pact by diaz, top commanders, the multiple sergeants who failed to supervise, the officer A committing 18 use of force incidents in two years, the officer B, the other officers leading the bad apple list. SPD and mcginn are largely in denial. this means it's over for mcginn, his bike riding urban young base isn't going to stand for him becoming the apologist for a bunch of violent cops who fail to supervise themselves and are still in denial.
Posted by hundreds of bad cops on June 26, 2012 at 8:31 AM
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@16, the problems of brutality in the SPD go back a ways, including the Nickels administration. Why would he be any better? I could see him being just as defensive to change as McGinn is acting now.
Posted by neo-realist on June 26, 2012 at 8:40 AM
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BTW, my apartment is around the corner from the mayors house, I can't help but notice that there are still two police officers posted outside it ever since someone through something through one of his windows. Despite this, the police can't respond to my place in a timely manner.

Is it really a good use of our resources to have two cops posted outside his house forever? Will every mayor get this?
Posted by K X One on June 26, 2012 at 9:04 AM
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The rat bastards at the Police Guild are at the heart of this thing. They have the City by the balls and won't let go.

Posted by Shades of 1971 on June 26, 2012 at 9:25 AM
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Fear the all-powerful police union!! Their greed and lust for power are the only reasons the city can't negotiate in good faith with the DOJ!

Rich O'neill and Velvet Jones are cackling together in a secret lair somewhere in the Underground!

Posted by six shooter on June 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM

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