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Friday, June 1, 2012

Why Does the Seattle Times Hate America?

Posted by on Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:28 AM

The Seattle Times editorial board is never more stupider than when it's instructing courts on how to decide cases:

JUDGE Bruce Heller of King County Superior Court, who threw out Initiative 1053, will not have the last word on the two-thirds rule for taxes. The Washington Supreme Court will have the last word, and it should reach a decision opposite of Heller's.

Wow. Well. If they're going to make such a bold statement, I can only presume they've got an equally bold legal analysis to back it up.

We do not argue that Heller is legally mistaken.

Oh.

The Washington Constitution does not allow an initiative to raise the threshold for passing a law.

Double oh.

Nor does it disallow it.

You gotta fucking be kidding.

Given that the Supreme Court can decide either way, we believe the court should let the people have what they want.

Um... that's not how this legal stuff works. Really.

The state Constitution either does or does not allow an initiative to raise the threshold for passing a law, and it is up to the Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution based on its plain language, the intent of the framers, and established legal precedent, not based on what the justices (or Frank Blethen) think the people do or do not want. The justices have no leeway on this. They do not have the luxury of picking which policy they (or Frank) think is best. That's not the role of the court.

An initiative amounts to a sub-constitutional restraint on the Legislature...

No it doesn't.

It is a kind of trial amendment...

No it isn't!

The initiative process merely grants the people the same power as the legislature to "propose bills, laws, and to enact or reject the same at the polls" by a simple majority vote.

Jesus... have the editors ever read the fucking Constitution? Have they ever even bothered to look up the word "constitution" in the dictionary? Constitutions are supposed to be difficult to amend; otherwise the fundamental principles and protections they embody would carry no more weight than any other law. The extra-constitutional line of reasoning the editors propose is nothing less than a recipe for undermining the rule of law.

Honestly, the Seattle Times editorial board is about as qualified to give legal advice as I am to operate on Bruce Ramsey's prostate.

To be clear, when I say that the Constitution does not allow an initiative to raise the threshold for passing a law (and it doesn't), I am not telling the justices how to decide this case. I am predicting how they will decide it based on my own informed analysis and the legal opinion of attorneys I trust.

But what the Seattle Times ed board is attempting to do is totally different. They are attempting to use their op-ed page to persuade elected justices to reinterpret the Constitution based on political expediency—an effort that displays both a lack of understanding of the law, and a lack of regard for it.

 

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Go get 'em Goldy.
Sometimes you're an ass but you're not a presumptive pompous patrician, power-to-business-not-to-the-people ass e.g. The Times Editorial Board.
Posted by gator bait on June 1, 2012 at 8:35 AM
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There is a really handy summary of the constitutional issues in the Appendix at the end of the decision. Makes the issue and decision pretty clear. Judge Heller did a very thorough job establishing jurisdiction and citing precedent in WA and other states for his decision. Hard to see how a reasonable Supreme Court doesn't agree.

And yes, the times Editorial's language is flippant , snarky and mis-informed -- Joni must still be writing for them. The 'Court can decide either way' line is particularly ignorant.
Posted by moretent on June 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM
Baconcat 3
"We should let the people have what they want..."

Well, that's one way to justify all sorts of ballot-based bullshit. I'm glad the State Constitution is officially an enemy of the Baltersphere.
Posted by Baconcat on June 1, 2012 at 8:49 AM
Teslick 4
I don't know how a reasonable person can read the State Constitution and not come to any other conclusion, regardless of party.

So does that mean if an initiative is passed, for example, shutting down The Times "just because", that would be ok, as long as the voters approve?
Posted by Teslick on June 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Joe Szilagyi 5
Goldy, you need to learn how to summarize the manifestos the Times publishes. Like this:

Blethen Clan: raises taxes on us is against our political wishes; courts should heed our wishes in violation of the law because we're more important than the rule of law.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on June 1, 2012 at 9:11 AM
Joe Szilagyi 6
* raising taxes on us
Posted by Joe Szilagyi http://twitter.com/joeszi on June 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM
7
And who is surprised at the Times editorial? Either the opinion, the lack of logic or the ignorance?
Posted by 1971 on June 1, 2012 at 10:01 AM
8
Goldy - your constant take down of the Time's tortured editorial board screed is amazing.
Posted by virtuosobob on June 1, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Will in Seattle 9
Face it, suburban city-hating newspapers are a drag.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on June 1, 2012 at 10:51 AM
dangerousgift 10
More stupider Goldy?
Posted by dangerousgift on June 1, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Goldy 11
@10: First draft was "more stupidest," but I didn't think that scanned well.
Posted by Goldy on June 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM
TVDinner 12
Most stupidest?
Posted by TVDinner http:// on June 1, 2012 at 11:44 AM
13
#11 Goldy - great take down of the Seattle Times, as usual. Thank you! I sometimes wonder how many ST reporters and other staffers read your posts re: the editorial board and get a good chuckle.

Anyway, as to the question of grammar, how about 'The Seattle Times is never more stupid than when...' Just a suggestion.
Posted by screed on June 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM
14
Say either "more stupid" or "stupider".

Both of the above are correct ways to express the comparative. For the superlative, use either "stupidest" or "most stupid".

Neither "more stupider" nor "most stupidest" comes within lightyears of English grammar. If you want to suggest that previous editorials were really stupid, but this one goes beyond their usual level of stupidity (though it isn't the ne plus ultra of stupidity), try "even stupider" or "even more stupid".

I can't think of a grammatically appropriate modifier or intensifier of "stupidest" or "most stupid". They're as extreme as you can get. Though not as extreme as "unique", which cannot be intensified, not even with "more" or "most" (or "-er" or "-est"). Something can be "almost unique" or "nearly unique", but once it's "unique" you've hit an intensification dead end. There are no comparative levels of one-of-a-kind-ness.
Posted by N in Seattle http://peacetreefarm.org on June 1, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Beetlecat 15
@14 the point is nowhere near where you think it is.
Posted by Beetlecat on June 1, 2012 at 2:05 PM
16
Here is the really, really weird part of all of this. The Times, and those of their ilk, want the initiative to stand because... the majority willed it. They would appear to support majority rule. Except that the initiative itself was in opposition to majority rule. So they agree with majority rule only when the majority is opposed to majority rule?

Do they have any idea of the sort of cognitive dissonance they are pulling here?
Posted by Charlie Mas on June 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM
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@15:

Yes, Beetlecat, I know full well that Goldy's phrase-turning has nothing whatsoever to do with the important point he's making about the inanity of the Blethens and their minions. Then again, it was the fifth of five consecutive comments on grammar, so I was hardly alone in mentioning it.

I've been pointing out Goldy's minor errors to him for many years. Yet we're still on speaking terms. It's rather refreshing to take him to task over something other than his too-common use of the contraction "it's" where the adjective "its" is supposed to be.
Posted by N in Seattle http://peacetreefarm.org on June 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Goldy 18
@17: It's only a grammatical "error" when it's unintentional.
Posted by Goldy on June 1, 2012 at 5:31 PM
19
I liked the threat at the end of the editorial. I wonder what the Times and Republicans have planned?
Posted by 2cents on June 1, 2012 at 10:06 PM
20
I thought conservatives were literalists about the Constitution. If it ain't in there, it ain't in there. If it says "the legislature does this" and it does not say "the people can make the legislature do it this way" then what IS in there takes precedence. It's not called "the law of the land" for nothing.
Posted by K on June 2, 2012 at 12:53 AM

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