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Thursday, April 12, 2012

Law Enforcement Clashes Over Later Bar Hours

Posted by on Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:43 PM

At a meeting held last week in Western Washington, the police chiefs of Battle Ground and Vancouver lobbied the state to kill a Seattle petition that would allow Washington cities the option of extending bar service hours. Directly afterward, their counterparts at the the Clark County Sheriff's department took the mic and argued in favor of the proposal because of the flexibility and control it gave law enforcement.

At the April 3 meeting in Vancouver, the two chiefs testified to the Washington State Liquor Control Board (WSLCB) that their resource-strapped departments aren't equipped to handle later crowds of drinkers and preferred the standard 2:00 a.m. bar push-out. They join the city of Federal Way in opposing the measure, where last week city officials and law enforcement declared it "horrendously bad public policy."

As I've mentioned in the past, getting law enforcement in other jurisdictions to support the proposal—which was first introduced by Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn with the support of the Seattle Police Department, City Attorney Pete Holmes, and a united City Council last July—is key in getting it approved by the notoriously cautious liquor board.

(In a modest coup, King County Executive Dow Constantine addressed a letter of support to the board last year, an implicit sign that the King County Sheriff's office also backs the measure.)

Of course, if the state granted the rule change, bars wouldn't automatically be granted the right to serve until sun up. Cities would still have to petition the state for extended hours and prove that they could handle the rollback from a public safety perspective.

At the April 3 meeting, the Clark County Board of Health and tourism board also lodged their support of the measure because of its emphasis on local control. Meanwhile, last night, WSLCB spokesman Brian Smith says that many Tri-Cities law enforcement and city officials attended a Kennewick meeting on the measure last night but "they did not testify," he says. "They only wanted to listen [and] learn more."

The deadline for testifying is getting down to the wire—the final state meeting is scheduled for Monday, April 16 in Spokane. (To recap, here's how Seattle's March meeting on the measure went.)

The liquor board is slated to make its decision on May 7.

 

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Will in Seattle 1
Wait, I thought the police forces were taking a larger percentage of the total taxes to city and county tax collections every year?

Either one is true (growing share of our taxes) or the other (shrinking police).

Can't have both.
Posted by Will in Seattle http://www.facebook.com/WillSeattle on April 12, 2012 at 1:56 PM
slade 2
Don't like Mcginn anymore don't like the drunks that cant even walk at 2am much less the 3 or 4 crowed.

I will be waiting for McGinn and his wonderfulness of Ideas to go back, way back, all the way back to New York where he came from?

Don't like the police involved in the WSLB and I don't like Politics involved in Decisions about public safety? The state issues licences and is responsible for the bag of crap that goes with it.
the night life has vanished as club after club has closed down with the economy and McGinns crap along with the Piss Dept wont come close to applying to next years problems? Seattle's night life will be 2 LGBT bars 1 Country bar 2 Rock bars 2 Discotechs and 5 sport bars and ten Asian or Mexican holes in the wall by this time next year?

1st ave is drying for crying out loud? Duh!
Posted by slade http://www.youtube.com/user/guppygator on April 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Urgutha Forka 3
Why do states even have mandatory bar closing times anyway?
Why not let the bars choose when they want to stop serving alcohol?
Posted by Urgutha Forka on April 12, 2012 at 2:45 PM
4
"In a modest coup, King County Executive Dow Constantine addressed a letter of support to the board last year, an implicit sign that the King County Sheriff's office also backs the measure."

You're basing that on what? That they both are part of King County government? The King County Executive and the King County Sheriff have disagreed on various policy matters ever since the Sheriff was made an elected position. To infer the Sheriff or the Sheriff's Office supports something solely on the fact the Executive does is plain dumb.
Posted by TJ on April 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM
slade 5
@3 Republicans will drink until their guts explode and poop rain like volcanic ash. Seen it lived it its nasty.
Posted by slade http://www.youtube.com/user/guppygator on April 12, 2012 at 3:14 PM
6
@1 - sure you can. If the pie gets smaller, one chunk may take a larger portion, but still shrink in relation to what it was previously. This has happened with the King County Sheriff's Office - they take up a larger and larger share of the general fund, but because the general fund has suffered massively in the economic downturn, the Sheriff's Office has had to lay off personnel and make cuts too.
Posted by TJ on April 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 7
Here's what I would do.

I would require everyone who enters a bar to present, along with ID, a $50 taxi pass which is current and valid with their address and maybe even picture ID stamped on it.

As they leave if there is any sign of intoxication, they would be forced to use the pass and be verified by the cab driver that they rode all the way home.

(Actually maybe you could just do this with a drivers license...the drunk would be "ticketed" by the taxi company using their license for record keeping.)

No pass. No entry.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on April 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM
COMTE 8
Let me guess, @7 you also work for the taxi lobby...

I have no problem with preventing drunks from driving, but some of us purposely live in neighborhoods where we can WALK home from the bar. Why the fuck should I have to pony out $50 for a cab I don't need?
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on April 13, 2012 at 12:07 AM

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