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Monday, March 12, 2012

Iraq After Saddam

Posted by on Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:03 AM


A recent rash of killings of people perceived to be gay or emo in Iraq has stoked fear within those communities, which worry the government might be unwilling or unable to protect them.
At least 14 such victims were killed in Baghdad in the past three weeks, according to a senior Interior Ministry official, who was not authorized to talk to the media.
Rights activists claim the number is actually much higher, with some suggesting dozens or more than 100 have been killed since February.
The killings appear to target people perceived to be gay, or emo — shorthand in Iraq for an in-your-face style of Western dress that favors tight clothes, long hair and the color black.
Most of the killings have taken place in Shiite neighborhoods like Sadr City, Shulaa, Ameen and Tariq, activists said.
At least you are liberated from a tyrant who had WMD.


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Cook 1
you linked to the third page! that's the worst.
Posted by Cook on March 12, 2012 at 9:39 AM · Report this

How do emo people maintain their pallor in the desert?
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://_ on March 12, 2012 at 9:46 AM · Report this
Rob in Baltimore 3
Sounds like a Santorum and American Family Association wet dream. They'd do it if they thought they could get away with it.
Posted by Rob in Baltimore on March 12, 2012 at 9:48 AM · Report this
I hate posting comments on the slog, because it's a pain in the ass. However, the idiocy of Mr. Charles Mudede has to be addressed. Listen you moron, when you post a link to an article can you at least have the intelligence and common decency to post the link to the BEGINNING of the article? If I'm taking the time to link to the referenced story can I at least be linked to the BEGINNING, rather then the end???
Posted by Kelly L on March 12, 2012 at 9:58 AM · Report this
Max Solomon 5
is your contention that Shia youth were safer, or more free, under a baathist sunni dictatorship that appeared to be heading for a generational transfer as in Syria?

this is a case where both oppressors (Hussein, Shiite Mullahs) suck.
Posted by Max Solomon on March 12, 2012 at 10:23 AM · Report this
JensR 6
Naaaaw Kelly have to flip pages... oh my god. Life is collapsing around us. No wonder its such a problem for you to post on slog - I mean you have to first of all WRITE something, then you have to click a green little button (its tiny)... and THEN even worse you have to wait a few seconds and click another one...

Who cares about Emos in Iraq when this kind of horrendous shit is going on? I mean honestly! Kellys granddad didn't go off and fight in wars in someplace else for him/her to have to stand for this crap!

@Charles I would say your as bad as hitler for linking to the wrong page! Consider poor Kelly for once in your life! For shame!

... I would like us all to have a moment of silence for Kelly and his/her obvious struggles with things like going back in articles and posting on Slog.
Posted by JensR on March 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 7
I am not surprised. Now bring the rest of the troops home.
Posted by Will in Seattle on March 12, 2012 at 11:10 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 8
Your statement is in serious need of perspective Charles. Under Saddam, in 1988, he slaughtered 50,000 people. In April 1991, a conservative estimate of deaths due to his genocidal programs was 80,000. With just these two instances, in which the lowest estimate of deaths were taken, that equates to roughly (very roughly) 15 people per day.

This does not count the daily executions, kidnappings, or systematic tortures and rapes. Considering how Baltimore has roughly a murder a day, as tragic as it is, fourteen in three weeks does not really warrant a "see it was better under Saddam!" argument.

While the intelligence was overblown and the war unjustified, the argument you are making is vapid and lacks any kind of educated perspective.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on March 12, 2012 at 11:36 AM · Report this
Theodore Gorath 9
Oh, I should probably clarify, that is 15 people on average per day, every day of his rule, from 1979-2003, just from these two episodes.
Posted by Theodore Gorath on March 12, 2012 at 11:55 AM · Report this
Sir Vic 10
Wait a minute. Being 'emo' is a choice, right? (Maybe Robert Smith was born that way, but for the most part it's a phase.) Not quite a capital offense, but I can't say I object to slapping some sense into the kids now and then. They're barbarians!
Posted by Sir Vic on March 12, 2012 at 12:02 PM · Report this
See? That's what you get, Kelly.
Posted by floater on March 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM · Report this

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