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Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Off-Duty Officers Brawl with Neighbours Security

Posted by on Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

In a nightclub drama that reads like a gayed-up version of 21 Jump Street, three unidentified off-duty officers have filed a police report against security personnel at Neighbours Nightclub, claiming that security guards yelled at them and assaulted them in the alley behind the club "but they didn't know why." Meanwhile, a security guard for the club claims that the situation got out of hand after one of the officers shoved him and called him a know-nothing Mexican.

This claim demands sleuthing! Or at the very least, repeating!

The drama begins on Monday, January 16 at 1:00 a.m. when police were called to the alley entrance of Neighbours nightclub—aka the gayest back door west of Basic Plumbing—to investigate a (presumably) gay scuffle, or what I like to call a "fox trot." There, responding officers discovered that three of the individuals involved in the fight were off-duty police officers who were "visibly intoxicated" and covered in dirt, according to the police report. As the off-duty officers explained to responding officers, they were just hangin' in the alley behind Neighbours when security for the club started getting aggressive.

However, the main security guard involved in the confrontation told police that Officer 3 had started the disturbance by pushing his elbow into the guard's chest. Neighbours security also claims that before the pushing started, either Officer 2 or 3 stated for some inexplicable reason, "You don't know anything about the law, Mexican."

Neighbours has surveillance video of the incident (but no audio).

The police report states that the video shows Officer 2 and Officer 3 walking north in the alley before the confrontation. Another man—identified in the report only as a business acquaintance of Neighbours's security guards—runs ahead of them. He reaches the security guards stationed at Neighbours's entrance and gestures at the two approaching men. Once he has security's attention, the man returns to Officer 2 and appears to scream in Officer 2's face for unknown reasons. "You can see arm and shoulder movement near [Officer 2's] face," the report notes. In turn, the officer uses his arm to push the dude a few feet back—"this was not a hard violent push but seemed to be used to gain separation between the two," notes the report.

Suddenly, one of the security guys in a beefy SECURITY shirt approaches the off-duty officers, says a few words, and then "quickly leg sweeps [Officer 3] slamming him to the ground."

SECURITY says it was because the officer threw his elbow at his chest; the officer denies this; the video is apparently inconclusive.

Meanwhile, Officer 1 has been standing this whole time by the alcove entrance to Neighbours "relaxing with his hand against the wall," the preferred stance of teen and gay heartthrobs alike. But when the pushing started, Officer 1 jumped in the midst of the brawl and "is clearly seen putting his hands up in the air telling everyone to stop fighting."

So: SECURITY approaches Officer 1, they exchange a few words, Officer 1 may have moved to grab SECURITY's arm ("the video is not clear," the report states) and in turn SECURITY "pushes [Officer 1] into the wall and to the ground."

The report states that Officer 1 lifts himself from the ground and starts to walk to the Neighbours' entrance but a moment later SECURITY tackles him again, "hard to the ground... [Officer 1] appears to be holding his hand up as though he is trying to defend himself or telling SECURITY to stop. [Officer 1] then tries to get up off the ground and SECURITY is seen pulling [Officer 1's] head backwards with his hands around [Officer 1's] neck." Later, SECURITY tells reporting officers that he put Officer 1 in a choke hold because Officer 3 "came at him from behind and took his collapsible baton from his back pocket," the report explains. The baton was lying on the ground when responding officers arrived.

Presumably, the fight was broken up for good shortly after this. The report notes that "The video was grainy and difficult to see the exact movement of the subjects, however, it appeared that [SECURITY] was the aggressor in most of the video."

SECURITY admitted that all three men identified themselves as off-duty officer. The responding officer asked SECURITY why he continued to whale on the men after they identified themselves. He replied that "they shouldn't have been acting like that if they were police officers."

 

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COMTE 1
Regardless of what actually transpired, can you imagine the razzing these three are going to get from their fellow officers in the locker room on their next watch?

Serves them right, too.
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on January 18, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Vince 2
This is the kind of trouble I can get behind! (Teehee)
Posted by Vince on January 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM
long-time reader 3
So what, when somebody tells you they're an off-duty cop, you're supposed to say, "Oh, okay, then carry on causing trouble, officer!"
Posted by long-time reader on January 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM
douchus 4
Emphasis on the OFF-duty. Don't expect special treatment if you're just some schmoe in an alley.
Posted by douchus on January 18, 2012 at 12:42 PM
5
Headline should read: In Positive Reversal of Norm, Gays Beat Up Cops
Posted by Meinert on January 18, 2012 at 12:51 PM
6
Bouncers in this town are getting out of control, almost as bad as the cops...
Posted by Bouncers are stupid pricks on January 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM
7
Stay classy, SPD.
Posted by suddenlyorcas on January 18, 2012 at 12:55 PM
SPG 8
Let's see, a fight between bouncers and drunk cops. Can I hope they both lose?
Posted by SPG on January 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM
9
What were those off duty cops doing in a back alley at Neighbors? Looking for some back alley duty?
Posted by neo-realist on January 18, 2012 at 1:16 PM
10
Before we go all snow-crazy on SPD brutality, we might want some actual facts. If you carefully read the story Cienna cribbed from the P-I, the security guard changed his story three times, first ID'ing one of the officers as the potty-mouth, then ID'ing another one, and finally saying that the guard had charged the officer because one of them had taken his collapsible baton. This is not nearly as clear-cut as some of the other cases of off-duty SPD misbehavior.

And speaking of bashing, @9, @1, et al, are cops not allowed to be gay off-duty? Nice.
Posted by Mr. Happy Sunshine on January 18, 2012 at 1:41 PM
Timrrr 11
Not that I'm cynical of the SPD lately or anything, but...

I'd really like to have someone other than another officer look at that "grainy and difficult to see" Rorschach of a video and give me their interpretation of what's happening in it before passing judgement either way.
Posted by Timrrr on January 18, 2012 at 1:42 PM
Vince 12
@10 I'm not bashing. I admire and respect the police. They have a very difficult and dangerous job. And they do it for the most part admirably. They are, after all, human beings who have all of the same everyday problems we all have. And they want to get home to their loved one's when the day is done. Maybe even kick back and have a few beers. I can understand all that. And sometimes they even get into a little trouble. Something we've all done.
Posted by Vince on January 18, 2012 at 1:57 PM
COMTE 13
@10:

There's nothing in either report that indicates: A.) any of the off-duty cops self-identified as gay, or; B.) that any of them had even been inside Neighbors. The scuffle took place in the alley BEHIND Neighbors, which is a common short-cut for people who want to go between Pine & Pike, rather than, say, walking the extra half-block to Broadway.

And I don't think the inclusion of additional information re: the baton really counts as a "change of story" so much as a simple embellishment of it. Plus, in situations like this (a quick physical confrontation in a rather poorly-lit alley), it wouldn't be terribly surprising for the bouncer to make such a mis-identification.

As is usually the case in these types of situations, there are probably elements of truth on both sides of the story. But that being said, my expression of schadenfreude over the cops' predicament still stands.
Posted by COMTE http://www.chriscomte.com on January 18, 2012 at 2:13 PM
in-frequent 14
neighbors security has always seemed pretty good to me, fwiw.
Posted by in-frequent on January 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM
15
I think Neighbors' security are my new heroes.
Posted by seatackled on January 18, 2012 at 3:21 PM
thatsnotright 16
If I read this post in a news paper or straight blog the use of "gayed up" and "fox trot" as well as the flippancy about what could be off-duty police officers targeting a gay bar or gay people for harrassment would be offensive. As it is, it's The Stranger and Cienna Madrid so it's trolling, which is offensive.
Posted by thatsnotright on January 18, 2012 at 3:51 PM
17
Everyone knows Neighbors' security guys are full of mexican piss.
Posted by beef rallard on January 18, 2012 at 4:39 PM
venomlash 18
Maybe I'm a little more supportive of police forces than you guys, but the way I read this, the security dudes seem to be more in the wrong.
Posted by venomlash on January 19, 2012 at 12:15 AM
watchout5 19
90% of this story seems like it's cop propaganda they're pushing to make themselves look better. I don't think it's working. They just got curious and frustrated.
Posted by watchout5 http://www.overclockeddrama.com on January 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM
20
I didn't know Randy JOkela, Nori Etoh and Jason Drummond were out of the closet..... interesting
Posted by Nick Bauer on January 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM
21
It's especially hypocritical/funny/sad when supposed liberal-minded folks are a-okay with intolerance of people who sometimes wield power, etc. There's nothing positive about anyone beating up anyone.
Posted by N8 on January 19, 2012 at 4:22 PM
22
It just doesn't matter what cops say since they have unbelievable legal protections, money, and union protections that security guards and the rest of the taxpayers do not have. Only fools listen to cops today. It's the same story over and over about hero cops getting attacked as if they are pregnant or elderly. just totally pathetic! The only people that can side with cops in America today are the ones who they feed, breed, and bail out. You can't logically have sympathy for people who have so much more legal protections than you... This story should remind us that pig are pigs regardless if they are black, latino, white, or gay. Their union(guild) is making sure they hire enough minorities so DOJ and FBI can't bust them for discrimination like the old days. The monster is evolving...
Posted by mikey on January 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM

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