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News & ArtsWednesday, November 2, 2011
At Large Here I Am In Eugene, O
Posted by Dan Savage on Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Not going to be able to blog much today—swamped at the moment (haven't been on much this week)—but I wanted to toss this up so you'll know I haven't forgotten about you, Slog. See you at HUMP!
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Nor we you, dear. Thank you for that gem of a performance. I've not heard a true high note like that in forever.
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Now I understand, Dan you must not have been clapping for that Trans-person singing like that. No wonder they hate you.
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OK, I had to go look this up as well. Heh, yes, very well played.
I have to admit I am doing a complete double take here. OK, so part of their statement was: "He's a racist and misogynist and a rape-apologist, too!"
Okaaaaay. Except that in the earlier part of their statement, they *also* said "The Dan Savage Welcoming Committee let him know that he can't be a douche with impunity."
OH HAI WELCOMING COMMITTEE. YOU GUYS APPEAR TO BE PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF MYSOGYNISTIC SLINGING AROUND YOURSELVES.
I swear.
I have to admit I am doing a complete double take here. OK, so part of their statement was: "He's a racist and misogynist and a rape-apologist, too!"
Okaaaaay. Except that in the earlier part of their statement, they *also* said "The Dan Savage Welcoming Committee let him know that he can't be a douche with impunity."
OH HAI WELCOMING COMMITTEE. YOU GUYS APPEAR TO BE PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF MYSOGYNISTIC SLINGING AROUND YOURSELVES.
I swear.
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Meanwhile, Oakland is having fun. Beer sprayed on banks, Whole Foods shut down, you name it.
At least you're half way there.
At least you're half way there.
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I had to look it up too.
Here's my thing, it's true that comments have been made in the past that weren't entirely accepting of trans people. But I explain it the same way that I explain South Park to people. South Park got a lot of heat when they did that episode on Islam. But the thing is, South Park had already done episodes on Christianity, Scientology, Judaism, Mormonism, you name it. They make fun of everyone equally. I think the same is true for Dan. He doesn't coddle the trans community in the same way that some other people do, but it's hardly like he's singling them out and making fun of them and them alone. He's a humorous advice columnist. He bashes on everyone at times, not based on their sexual orientation or gender identity, but based on the issues they're dealing with. To call treating trans people the same way as he treats all the rest of his audience "transphobic" is expecting special treatment. Man up (or woman up!) and accept being treated the same way everyone else is.
Here's my thing, it's true that comments have been made in the past that weren't entirely accepting of trans people. But I explain it the same way that I explain South Park to people. South Park got a lot of heat when they did that episode on Islam. But the thing is, South Park had already done episodes on Christianity, Scientology, Judaism, Mormonism, you name it. They make fun of everyone equally. I think the same is true for Dan. He doesn't coddle the trans community in the same way that some other people do, but it's hardly like he's singling them out and making fun of them and them alone. He's a humorous advice columnist. He bashes on everyone at times, not based on their sexual orientation or gender identity, but based on the issues they're dealing with. To call treating trans people the same way as he treats all the rest of his audience "transphobic" is expecting special treatment. Man up (or woman up!) and accept being treated the same way everyone else is.
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South Park will wait until you think they're ok, after you twist your heads around trying to make it ok, and then change it again on you.
Seriously, why do you bother?
Seriously, why do you bother?
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Enjoy. And if you see a gentleman who is on the very tall side with an excellently shaped, well a basketball, biking, and indoor soccer, bunda then he's my better half.
Take care.
Take care.
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@11 Very true. I've seen him slap gay men upside the head, bi folks, trans folks, everyone. And each group takes umbrage in their turn and so on.
No, Dan isn't perfect by any means (who among us are), but this protest seems particularly pointless. I've been annoyed by various comments on bisexuality that Dan's made, plus a few on women. I got over 'em.
No, Dan isn't perfect by any means (who among us are), but this protest seems particularly pointless. I've been annoyed by various comments on bisexuality that Dan's made, plus a few on women. I got over 'em.
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@16 Perfectly summarized. I concur. I hope that Dan shrugged off the glitter in a stylish fashion.
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Yo Danny-
how about an update on the KickAss ACLU lawsuit against those BIGOTS at Alice HS.
How is the Kissing Cheerleader doing, anyway?
how about an update on the KickAss ACLU lawsuit against those BIGOTS at Alice HS.
How is the Kissing Cheerleader doing, anyway?
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@16 "No, Dan isn't perfect by any means (who among us are)"
You hurt my feelings, perfectionist basher!
You hurt my feelings, perfectionist basher!
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I think I may have watched that clip seven times now since you posted it. Thank you so much for that. Also: keep on keepin' on!
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interesting how Danny's and the Faggoratia's attitude to glittering changes when he is getting dumped on
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All that glitters is gold, Dano, and you are almost glowing in the dark!
Can you post the video of the glittering? Please?!?!
Can you post the video of the glittering? Please?!?!
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I was once on a flight with Mr. Savage. The person sitting next to me commented on his prescence & speculated as to whether he should ask for an autograph. My response, "Are you insane? He may take your pic, put it on Slog, & write who knows what. Could be something funny or it could be something mean. Let sleeping dogs lie."
I like Mr. Savage's work, but I'd never want to put myself on his radar or his bad side. But to equate him with people on the level of Anita Bryant seems delusional.
I like Mr. Savage's work, but I'd never want to put myself on his radar or his bad side. But to equate him with people on the level of Anita Bryant seems delusional.
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@25 Or, you know, you could send him a note telling him how much you enjoy his stuff, and get a Cute Lesbian Couple* In That Restaurant response on Slog...
*change to fit your circumstances, of course
*change to fit your circumstances, of course
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I first met Our Dan way back when, in the "Hey Faggot" days: he was doing a signing of his comic book at Bailey/Coy, and dressed as Mrs Santa Claus. I was there with my dear friend Marianne, and we had a jolly time sitting on his lap.
Later that night, sans Marianne, I was at the Brass Connection, and Dan came up to me. At the time, I was barely out of the closet, and truely overwhelmed that such a role model - and I mean that honestly, for I was one of the first readers of "Savage Love", and simply adored him - would want to talk to me that I responded in monosyllables, and made a very bad impression of myself.
Later, when I got involved in an AIDS charity, I worked with Dan, and was even more impressed with him: he was a righteous force for good in those dark, pre-cocktail days, and he successfully challenged a lot of the sacred cows in what was, at the time, a very smugly self-satisfied "gay community" .
I'm a Beacon Hill housewife now, and removed from all that, but I still respect Dan for all the good he has done, and continues to do. If some neurotic chooses to glitter him for some imagined injustice, you might as well glitter me to: God knows I could use some pizzazz, wardrobe-wise.
Later that night, sans Marianne, I was at the Brass Connection, and Dan came up to me. At the time, I was barely out of the closet, and truely overwhelmed that such a role model - and I mean that honestly, for I was one of the first readers of "Savage Love", and simply adored him - would want to talk to me that I responded in monosyllables, and made a very bad impression of myself.
Later, when I got involved in an AIDS charity, I worked with Dan, and was even more impressed with him: he was a righteous force for good in those dark, pre-cocktail days, and he successfully challenged a lot of the sacred cows in what was, at the time, a very smugly self-satisfied "gay community" .
I'm a Beacon Hill housewife now, and removed from all that, but I still respect Dan for all the good he has done, and continues to do. If some neurotic chooses to glitter him for some imagined injustice, you might as well glitter me to: God knows I could use some pizzazz, wardrobe-wise.
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