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Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Shall We Discuss Terra Nova?

Posted by on Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM

I have more dinosaurs on my desk than Terra Nova has per episode.
  • I have more dinosaurs on my desk than Terra Nova has per episode.
Are you guys watching Terra Nova?

I'm watching because it's my (self-imposed) duty to watch anything with dinosaurs. The show's fine, I don't have much to say about it. In fact I'm only bringing it up because, well, dinosaurs.

You guys, I want to be excited about this show! Prehistoric creatures! Time travel! But I don't think it'll last long. I think there's too much family drama and not enough dinosaurs. But I guess the show's not really about dinosaurs, it's about a family surviving in a harsh environment through the power of love. I wish it was about dinosaurs.

At the very least they should have blown up the background conspiracy arc bigger and more immediately. You know, the one about the commander's son, who may or may not be writing math problems on stone in a different time stream or something? Yeah.

Anyway, I'll keep watching it. Because: dinosaurs. Also: time travel.


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Baconcat 1
Needs more dinosaurs, sorry.

Not a fan.
Posted by Baconcat on October 12, 2011 at 11:15 AM · Report this
scary tyler moore 2
have you ever read 'a sound of thunder' by ray bradbury? this radio theater adaption is fantastic!
Posted by scary tyler moore on October 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM · Report this
SpecialBrew 3
Watched the pilot and first two episodes. It's simply awful. The anvil dropping of plot points, the cliches, the terrible writing and pacing make you notice all the scientific holes. I suspect somewhere in the making of this they also decided to make it more teen-friendly & family-friendly. There is defintely a Swiss Family Robinson thing going on, and not in a good way.

I'll keep watching for Mira/the Sixers plot, since they haven't shown them enough yet to ruin the potential there.
Posted by SpecialBrew on October 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM · Report this
SpecialBrew 4
I do love the overall concept, though, it's just the execution is really bad and keeps getting worse.
Posted by SpecialBrew on October 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM · Report this
MacCrocodile 5
What about a show about the drama of dinosaur families?
Posted by MacCrocodile on October 12, 2011 at 11:28 AM · Report this
Needs more boxing robots.
Posted by RonK, Seattle on October 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM · Report this
Simone 7
Yep, needs much more dinosaurs and less family drama. And I too will keep watching in hopes of more dinosaurs. I was afraid for the last episode about a memory loss virus/bug/whatever. In the previews I got the impression that the entire camp was going to get infected and it was going to be up to the few to find a star trek cure type thing. But, I was glade that it didn't come to that.

I hope that the cops kid who is working for the black market guy isn't stupid and rats out his father too much. He better catch on quick that he is being used.
Posted by Simone on October 12, 2011 at 11:32 AM · Report this
Mary P. Traverse 8
@2 Thank you! I love Bradbury and have not hears this!!!
Posted by Mary P. Traverse on October 12, 2011 at 11:32 AM · Report this
heywhatsit!? 9
Yep. I'm watching. It's awful. So awful I can't look away. Plus there are lots of cool guns, explosions and dinosaurs.
Posted by heywhatsit!? on October 12, 2011 at 11:38 AM · Report this
Will in Seattle 10
CGI is expensive.

The guns are way overdone - that was NOT why we watched Avatar ...
Posted by Will in Seattle on October 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 11
I'm in for as long as it's on unless the quality dips wildly for a long span. Just about every sci-fi show on TV has tons of crap early on before they right the ship and figure out all the little quirks. The first yearish of every Star Trek was weak to bad, and the same was true of Stargate, Farscape, just about everything.

I'm content to let it grow on me, and I'm enjoying it enough so far. Although, as soon as we came back from commercial at the last bit and I saw that we were at minute 00:54 of the broadcast, I guffawed and said "5 minute solution!"

They're clearly making the show for "mass market" appeal, by the way. They won't make or have a long-running profitable show by just catering to us nerds--for the God knows how much they've sunk on Terra Nova they want CSI or at least 24-level profits and longevity I'm guessing. Think about it--the Jurassic Park films were schmaltzy as all hell and dripping with as much hokey family looooove situations as there were tyrannosaurs eating lawyers and CLEVER GIRL velociraptor shenanigans.

It's like how I view the new Hawaii 5-0 series: I get to turn off my brain for 44 minutes and enjoy a middleweight grade Michael Bay Bad Boys knock off in Hawaii each week, and I'm very OK with this. With Terra Nova I get lightweight Avatar and Jurassic Park weekly. I'm OK with this too, until I get Bad Boys 3, Avatar 2, or Jurassic Park 4: Raptors Eating Little League Kids In Kansas.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi on October 12, 2011 at 12:11 PM · Report this
California Kid 12
More dinos less whiny teens!

Actually all the plots so far are ripoffs of Eureka without the charm. Weird science thing threatens town, science solves problem in the 11th hour; average joe cop/sheriff deploys sciencey fix at the last possible minute; average joe cop/sheriff covered in goo; laugh; cake is served.

BTW has anyone explained how they communicate with people in the future?
Posted by California Kid on October 12, 2011 at 12:13 PM · Report this
it sucks.
and, while you were thinking about it, you probably missed The Rebirth of Mothra III, which was on TV last night, and features time travel, dinosaurs, AND tiny princesses singing songs.
There is nothing in Terra Nova even 1/10th as cool as riding on the back of Fairy Mothra, the tiny steed of the princesses.

It was on Strarz, and will be on again next Tuesday, I believe.
Posted by CATSPAW666 on October 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 14
@12 they haven't explained it overtly but presumably they can send electronic messages back through the portal when it's cycle is active. That's a sci-fi staple that (I think) was first popularized on Stargate.

It can't possible go Eureka as you say, because Jason O'Mara cannot--no man can--shriek in girlish terror as well as Colin Ferguson can on Eureka.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi on October 12, 2011 at 12:20 PM · Report this
wisepunk 15
Needs moar Sleestaks.
Posted by wisepunk on October 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM · Report this
OuterCow 16
@5 Not the Mama! Not the Mama!
Posted by OuterCow on October 12, 2011 at 12:28 PM · Report this
Dougsf 17
What @1 said. I've tried, mostly because, well, dinosaurs. It just seems like it's made for dumb people. Also, fake Ron Perlman leader guy needs to be replaced by real Ron Perlman—who isn't busy because that biker show sucks too.

Also, am I crazy or do Spielberg's dinosaurs still look better than Terra Nova's, even after nearly 20 years. I'd figure there was some CGI-related "So-and-So's Law" regarding progress in this field, but it must really come down to artistic aptitude as much as anything.
Posted by Dougsf on October 12, 2011 at 12:33 PM · Report this
Kinison 18
The love story between the sister (and her crush) and the older brother (and his crush) remind me of Dawsons Creek, it forces me to fast forward through those scenes.

Still trying to give it a chance, but like most things produced by Steven Spielberg, its a bit of a let down.

Last episode we find out theres remote outpost developing cures for things that aboslutely do not pertain to surviving in a dinosaur infested era. You would think they would be developing bullets that can penetrate the skins of these dinosaurs as they appear to bounce right off them, but noooo lets develope a cure for super alzheimer's disease.

These outposts are dumb, and theyre vulnerable to attacks by these rouge humans called the 6'ers. Why put them out there in the first place?
Posted by Kinison on October 12, 2011 at 12:42 PM · Report this
Dougsf 19
@12, 14 - From what I gathered from the first episode based on a clunky conversation about the original beacon they sent through the portal but never found in the present, they determining there's a crack in the space/time hooha, so while they're now living in Earth's past, it isn't necessary on the same time line.

Only got mostly through episode two so far though, so if there's been a further explanation than ignore me. Also, I don't think that answered your question.
Posted by Dougsf on October 12, 2011 at 12:42 PM · Report this
evilvolus 20
@19 - That's exactly right. They stuck a clock in a big ball of iron and threw it through the hole, then dug around in that spot and never found a big ball of iron. Makes enough sense to me.

@Notenoughdinosaurs - There were a million dinobird things in episode 2, and a T-Rex in episode 3. If that's not enough, I submit that you actually want to be watching a documentary about dinosaurs and not Terra Nova.
Posted by evilvolus on October 12, 2011 at 12:55 PM · Report this
evilvolus 21
@18 - Rogue, darling.

Regardless, the lab wasn't supposed to be working on that virus. They were supposed to be doing botanical research. I'd guess it's outside the compound because it's tough to study plants in the middle of a several-kilometer clear-cut.

Vulnerability to sixer attack is certainly an issue, though. Maybe they're careful not to keep enough supplies onsite to make it worth raiding and provoking counterattack.
Posted by evilvolus on October 12, 2011 at 12:59 PM · Report this
Seek out Primeval from the BBC. Available on iTunes and DVD.

Dinos popping thru wormholes into modern-day England. Every week a new dino! Five seasons worth of good silly fun.

Also, A Sound of Thunder was adapted into a so-bad-it's-Awesome movie in 2005. Stars Edward Burns, Ben Kingsly, reptile-apes, pterodactyl-bats, and a lot of laughs. The real dinos at the beginning are pretty good too.
Posted by UKTV on October 12, 2011 at 1:23 PM · Report this
Joe Szilagyi 23
@20 except that spot moved a fair bit in 85,000,000 years and probably got buried under a half a hundred glaciers.
Posted by Joe Szilagyi on October 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM · Report this
Mary P. Traverse 24
@22 I've actually watched all of Primeval... definitely enjoy the dino action, less so the time-travel problems. And man was I sad when Douglas Henshall left. (swoon)
Posted by Mary P. Traverse on October 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM · Report this
Earth's future is smoggy and overpopulated: it's a dirty, crowded city. The family's move to Terra Nova is a gussied-up flight to the suburbs, complete with new house, cars, boring family drama, and solid white majority.

Terra Nova is a new world that won't repeat mankind's mistakes? Sure. Whatever you say.
Posted by omniart on October 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM · Report this
MacCrocodile 26
@23 - And the earth hurtled bajillions of miles through space, looping around and around the sun, spiraling whichever direction the solar system is moving, blah blah blah. Time travel fiction rather requires us to ignore those things.

Let's say the laboratory was built on the one place on the earth's crust that remained stationary. Hell, that can be their fifth-season reveal: the universe is centered on this one spot! BWAAAAAAAM!
Posted by MacCrocodile on October 12, 2011 at 3:24 PM · Report this
California Kid 27
@ 15- This. Sleestaks- YES

or better yet-…

Pre-historic, hyper intelligent, creepy serial killer artistic squids rise up to colonize the land only to discover... tasty angsty teenage humans! DUN DUN DUUUUNNNN!
Posted by California Kid on October 12, 2011 at 3:36 PM · Report this
evilvolus 28
@23 - I didn't say it was a perfect idea. I said it made enough sense. It's called "suspension of disbelief"

But you want an explanation? Okay.

A group of military scientists were testing out a new theory for a ray gun that they promised to the DOD like 15 years (and countless trillions of dollars) ago. It accidentally rips a hole in the fabric of the universe.
Larry: "I told you guys that might happen."
Everyone: "Shut up, Larry."

2 weeks later -
Team Lead: "So, Congress approved of Operation Big Iron Ball. Let's do this."
Larry: "Did you remember to take continental drift into account?"
Everyone: "Shut up, Larry."

2 weeks later:
Team Lead: "Well, we dug around all over in that spot and couldn't find a big, iron ball."
Larry: "You guys did notice the 600-mile margin of error on those numbers I gave you, right?"
Everyone: "God dammit, Larry, shut THE FUCK up! Who's in favor of Larry going with the first expedition?"
Everyone votes yes, including Larry, who realizes that if the future gets un-made, he might survive on the other side of the portal.

37 minutes after the first expedition arrives in the past, Larry (who is still doing his Happy Dance) is eaten by a velociraptor.
Posted by evilvolus on October 12, 2011 at 3:48 PM · Report this
I still miss this show when it had 1 fewer dinosaurs, was way better written, and was called Outcasts.
Posted by thename on October 13, 2011 at 4:07 AM · Report this

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