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News & ArtsMonday, October 3, 2011
News Our Joe the Plumber Is a Lot Smarter Than Their Joe the Plumber
Posted by Dan Savage on Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:01 PM
"This guy being interviewed in NYC at the protest," writes Slog tipper Michael. "He's sharp, eloquent and his tone is spot on. I'm pretty sure they just sought him out cause of his silly hat. My friend called him the left's joe the plumber. And no surprise, Fox News never aired it. Check it out if you haven't seen it."
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OMG I would have loved to see how they would have tried to spin this if it aired. You sir are awesome! This deserves repost.
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@1 How do you know it was a Confederate cap? It looked Civil Warish but I think both sides wore that kind of hat.
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#4
The Blue:
http://www.fun-shop.com/show_image.php?i…
And the Grey:
http://baystatecostumes.com/CNWebSite105…
The Blue:
http://www.fun-shop.com/show_image.php?i…
And the Grey:
http://baystatecostumes.com/CNWebSite105…
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It's not grey.It's navy blue- the color the Union Army fought under.
I have a friend of mine that likes to wear Civil War era stuff like that, and it's all memorabilia from the Union Army, such as belt buckles that say "USA" rather than CSA.
I have a friend of mine that likes to wear Civil War era stuff like that, and it's all memorabilia from the Union Army, such as belt buckles that say "USA" rather than CSA.
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Any child support payments he still owes? Any back taxes? Seriously, might want to do a background check before you prop this guy up on a high pillar.
There were a number of black women who refused to move to the back of the bus, but only one of them had a clean background.
There were a number of black women who refused to move to the back of the bus, but only one of them had a clean background.
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I don't have a tee-vee and if I did, it wouldn't be tuned to Faux News. Did this clip actually air?
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@8 So I guess not. May as well not waste your breath talking to a Faux News reporter. A few years ago at an anti-Iraq war protest I was approached by a Channel 13 reporter in Westlake Plaza. Refusing to talk to him and doing my best to discourage anyone else from doing so pissed him off more than anything I could have said (which would inevitably been twisted and reduced to a 5-second sound bite designed to make me look as ludicrous as possible).
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Extensive OWS and earlier blogging by Jesse "Ministry of Truth" La Greca here:
http://www.dailykos.com/blog/MinistryOfT…
http://www.dailykos.com/blog/MinistryOfT…
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@12,
It could have been worse. Remember James O'Keefe, the guy that made those videos about ACORN? He took all this footage and re-edited it to make his target look bad.
Fox could easily have done the same. There's no law against editing raw footage any way that you want to. And it's very easy to make anyone, no matter how good-hearted or intelligent, look bad that way. And after they scandalize you, you're not going to get a chance to defend yourself or tell your side of the story to anyone.
I avoid Fox and unknown people wielding cameras for exactly this reason. I'll talk to people if I know they're not going to destroy my reputation. But not Fox, and not unknown individuals.
It could have been worse. Remember James O'Keefe, the guy that made those videos about ACORN? He took all this footage and re-edited it to make his target look bad.
Fox could easily have done the same. There's no law against editing raw footage any way that you want to. And it's very easy to make anyone, no matter how good-hearted or intelligent, look bad that way. And after they scandalize you, you're not going to get a chance to defend yourself or tell your side of the story to anyone.
I avoid Fox and unknown people wielding cameras for exactly this reason. I'll talk to people if I know they're not going to destroy my reputation. But not Fox, and not unknown individuals.
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I reject any suggestion that the man's headwear was not the reason he was approached for a sound byte. Clearly the crew fell for it.
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@17, maybe it was, but it's their ignorance if they fail to recognize the color of the Union Army in the US Civil War.
Maybe we should all take up this fashion statement as a trap for Republicans. If we all dress up like Generals Sherman or Grant, will they make the error of exposing their vulnerabilities to us, thinking we are fellow travelers rather than the proud inheritors of the traditions fought for by their ancient enemies?
Maybe we should all take up this fashion statement as a trap for Republicans. If we all dress up like Generals Sherman or Grant, will they make the error of exposing their vulnerabilities to us, thinking we are fellow travelers rather than the proud inheritors of the traditions fought for by their ancient enemies?
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But I thought the wall street protestors were just stupid, dirty fucking hippies with no message...
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I suppose the Fox "reporter" saw a guy in a funny hat at a protest and associated him with tea party nitwits in funny hats. Oops.
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@22, why? Do you think there is no such thing?
I mean, I get your "let's not resort to emotional accusations / let's think about facts and arguments instead" stance. But in Fox News' case, the phrase seems to fit descriptively. Or do you have evidence to the contrary.
I mean, I get your "let's not resort to emotional accusations / let's think about facts and arguments instead" stance. But in Fox News' case, the phrase seems to fit descriptively. Or do you have evidence to the contrary.
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As for "propaganda machine", he's talking to Fox News, which works for the Republican Party. It is not an independent news organization, and is always mindful of its purpose when it chooses which stories to report on and in what way. Therefore its purpose is propaganda and not news.
Meanwhile, I don't know anything about the specifics of the hat but I agree with @17 that that was why he was approached. However, I can tell you by his accent that he is from the mid-atlantic and it's very unlikely that he has any confederate sympathies.
Meanwhile, I don't know anything about the specifics of the hat but I agree with @17 that that was why he was approached. However, I can tell you by his accent that he is from the mid-atlantic and it's very unlikely that he has any confederate sympathies.
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Newsflash..the entire corporate media industry in this country is a "propaganda machine". If you want real news you need to check out Democracy Now. If you don't realize that your nightly news is corporate propaganda...you'd have made the perfect German in 1935 and Joesph Goebbels salutes your loyalty.
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