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Thursday, September 8, 2011

Obama Jobs Speech Live-Slog

Posted by on Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM

We're going to try something different this time. This live-Slog will take place within the post, the way Sullivan does it. We're watching the speech over on PBS.org.

So prepare to refresh your browser and join us, please, after the jump:

4:51: Eli says:

This was a great speech—and, far more important, great politics.

Obama has a plan. It's paid for. It will create jobs. All that needs to happen is one thing: Congress needs to pass the plan. (You know, in case you missed Obama saying a thousand times during this speech that Congress needs to "pass this plan.")

Congress, which applauded on both sides of the aisle for many of Obama's proposals, will now be the body that's blamed if something's not done on the jobs front. Particularly Republicans in Congress, who will be seen as the obstacle.

Obama also called out Congressional Republicans for their seeming willingness to allow 14 more months of financial pain in the hopes of gaining some electoral edge in November 2012. They will be held responsible for that, too, if they do nothing.

There's no way Obama loses here. Congress fails to act: He wins. Congress acts: He wins.

Smart, smart, smart. A great flipping of the script.

4:47: Goldy notes the media response:

ABC: 9/11 anniversary related unspecified terrorist threat.
NBC: Lightning storm outside capital.
CBS: Not a detached professor.
PBS: Injecting a sense of urgency into the conversation.
FOX: Break to commercial

4:43: I think it's time for a little poll dancing.

4:42: "We are tougher than the times we live in and bigger than our politics have been." Great flourish at the end. Great, short speech.

Goldy says:

Obama is running against Congress. Give 'em hell, Barack!

4:41: The Republicans look like real dicks. The image a lot of people are going to take from this is half of Congress sitting down while Obama makes an optimistic speech about what America can do.

4:40: Goldy says:

Best speech of Obama's presidency. Telling it like it is. Forcefully making a case for government, and against the reactionary, anti-government ideology of the right. "What kind of country would this be if this country voted down Social Security and Medicare just because it violated some principle."

4:38: Eli says:

I missed how the President plans to pay for this, but the White House just sent out a fact sheet that explains. It's additional deficit reduction, achieved by that Joint Committee that our own Senator Patty Murray is helping to lead:

5. Fully Paid for as Part of the President’s Long-Term Deficit Reduction Plan. To ensure that the American Jobs Act is fully paid for, the President will call on the Joint Committee to come up with additional deficit reduction necessary to pay for the Act and still meet its deficit target. The President will, in the coming days, release a detailed plan that will show how we can do that while achieving the additional deficit reduction necessary to meet the President’s broader goal of stabilizing our debt as a share of the economy.

4:37: I'm loving this push for Democratic values. I was afraid this speech was going to be all pragmatism and no ideals or justifications. but fighting teabagger values in the middle of this speech is a nice touch.

4:35: Eli says:

The vote that supposedly was the reason for delaying Obama's speech:

"Authorizing the use of the Capitol Grounds for the District of Columbia Special Olympics Law Enforcement Torch Run."

4:34: Goldy says:

Obama should throw in a line about executing lots of death-row inmates. That should get the Republicans to stand and applaud.

4:33: Is Obama going to come out strong for regulations? God, I hope so.

4:31: Eli says,

But what is the free parting gift that he throws in at the end???

4:30: Goldy notes:

Obama presenting policy as choices... as "simple math." Tax breaks for oil companies or tax breaks for small businesses: "We can't do both." Most Americans are not ideologues; they want government that works. This is a smart speech.

4:28: Boehner uncomfortably clapped at that last tax-the-rich routine. Stranger publisher Tim Keck points out that Boehner is turning the same color as the leather chair he's sitting in.

4:27: Goldy says:

"We need a tax code where everybody gets a fair shake, and where everybody pays their fair share." Again, Republicans remain seated, because again, they presumably don't believe in fair shakes and fair shares when it comes to taxes. Assholes.

4:25: Eli notes:

Boehner didn't clap when Obama talked about asking "the wealthiest Americans and corporations to pay their fair share."

4:23: The Republicans should've said the words "jobs" and "middle class" last night as often as Obama is saying them tonight. Romney said "middle class" three times last night. And that's it.

4:21: Eli says:

So if they all stand up and clap for a proposal, does that mean it passes? The speech video vs. vote tally comparison will be interesting.

Goldy says:

"You should pass it right away," and "Pass this jobs bill" are the tag lines of the night. Voiced in the imperative. I know he's supposedly talking directly to the American people, but he's explicitly addressing the Congress. There's a preacher-like cadence to his repetition that strikes me as very effective.

4:19: The repetition of "pass this bill" reminds me of Goodnight, Moon.

Eli says:

"And you can have this bill... If you vote now!"

Goldy says:

"Republicans refuse to applaud "every child deserves a great school," presumably because they don't believe that every child deserves a great school. Classy."

4:17: Wow, I don't think I've ever seen Obama sell something so hard. The "pass this jobs bill" repeating thing is old-school salesmanship..

4:16: Eli says:

It's the Pass This Jobs Bill Jobs Bill!

4:15: Eli says;

Obama's current approval rating: 43.8 percent

Congress's current approval rating: 12.3 percent


This is what he's needed to take advantage of for a long time. In the public's mind, Congress is in no position to lecture anyone. In the public's mind, it's Congress that needs a good talking to. And if Obama can make the American people feel that he's given Congress a piece of their mind, and Congress then acts—well, that's a huge, huge win for the president.

4:14: Goldy says:

"The American Jobs Act." Simple. Straight forward. Finally bill from the Dems with a marketable name. I don't even care what's in it anymore.

4:13: "I am sending Congress a plan that you should pass right away." He's going to try as hard as he can to sell this over Congress's head to the American people, making them look contrary if they take too long to pass it or shoot it down.

4:11: Obama outlines the American Dream: Benefits, retirement, savings. He urges Congress to "stop the political circus" to big applause.

4:09: Obama comes out swinging against the "political crisis" that has "made things worse." He's attacking the media for over-speculating, saying that the American people don't care about that kind of shell game.

4:07: Eli notes:

Obama just gave the cold shoulder to Washington State Congressional hopeful (and reported Ghaddaffi supporter) Dennis Kucinich on his way in. No handshake for Dennis.

4:06: Here he comes. Everybody is shaking his hand, and PBS wants us to think this is unusual, somehow, even though his approval ratings are down.

4:05: Goldy reminds us:

All the major broadcast TV networks are showing the speech live. Also, Fox.

4:03: Goldy says:

I haven't watched the PBS News Hour in I dunno how long. My God, Judy Woodruff is old. And worse, she's old in HD!

4:02: Eli Sanders says:

Hello. Here's an excerpt the White House was waving in front of political reporters earlier today, and was embargoed until 6 p.m. Eastern:

The people of this country work hard to meet their responsibilities. The question tonight is whether we’ll meet ours. The question is whether, in the face of an ongoing national crisis, we can stop the political circus and actually do something to help the economy; whether we can restore some of the fairness and security that has defined this nation since our beginning.

Those of us here tonight cannot solve all of our nation’s woes. Ultimately, our recovery will be driven not by Washington, but by our businesses and our workers. But we can help. We can make a difference. There are steps we can take right now to improve people’s lives.

I am sending this Congress a plan that you should pass right away. It’s called the American Jobs Act. There should be nothing controversial about this piece of legislation. Everything in here is the kind of proposal that’s been supported by both Democrats and Republicans – including many who sit here tonight. And everything in this bill will be paid for. Everything.

The purpose of the American Jobs Act is simple: to put more people back to work and more money in the pockets of those who are working. It will create more jobs for construction workers, more jobs for teachers, more jobs for veterans, and more jobs for the long-term unemployed. It will provide a tax break for companies who hire new workers, and it will cut payroll taxes in half for every working American and every small business. It will provide a jolt to an economy that has stalled, and give companies confidence that if they invest and hire, there will be customers for their products and services. You should pass this jobs plan right away.

I'm far from the only one, but this is exactly what I've been saying Obama should do tonight: Give Congress an offer they can't refuse (unless they want to position themselves as not caring about job creation).

4:00: We're getting context for the speech, now. Obama's approval rating is in the toilet, unemployment is stuck over 9%. This could be the "most important" hearing of his presidency.

3:58: Here's what the New York Times is saying the speech will contain:

President Obama is expected to call for a significant, and costly, expansion of the payroll tax holiday, which already reduces workers’ contributions this year to financing Social Security, as part of a plan to spur what he will call an economic recovery “driven not by Washington, but by our businesses and our workers.”

3:56: I hope this live-casting stuff works better on PBS than it did on Politico last night. That just gave us video of some douchebag saying "Test" over and over again.

3:55: So this top post will soon be the bottom post. Freaky! I don't know how I feel about this.

 

Comments (57) RSS

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sepiolida 1
so do i have to constantly refresh it then?
Posted by sepiolida on September 8, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Matt from Denver 2
@ 1, yep.
Posted by Matt from Denver on September 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM
Big Matt G 3
Some sort of blather about a Homeland Security alert on NBC...
Posted by Big Matt G on September 8, 2011 at 4:04 PM
sepiolida 4
gotta say i like the other format.
Posted by sepiolida on September 8, 2011 at 4:06 PM
Paul Constant 5
Howdy spepiolida:

We figured the commentary wouldn't be as hot and heavy as during the Republican debates, so Cover It Live might be unnecessary. Do let us know what you think at the end, though. It's a learning process!
Posted by Paul Constant http://https://twitter.com/paulconstant on September 8, 2011 at 4:09 PM
AmyC 6
the way president obama says "thank you" cracks me up.
Posted by AmyC on September 8, 2011 at 4:10 PM
Bigsfrottin 7
this live slog sucks! Pleeeeeease change it back!!
Posted by Bigsfrottin on September 8, 2011 at 4:11 PM
8
Well, at the beginning, I think this new format sucks. I'm a bi-partisan snark provider! But maybe I'll actually watch this speech and reserve my final judgment til the end, as Paul suggests.
Posted by DannyG on September 8, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Bigsfrottin 9
Is Boehner checking out Obama's ass?
Posted by Bigsfrottin on September 8, 2011 at 4:11 PM
Matt from Denver 10
"Washington hasn't always put [working families] first."

Christ, Washington hasn't put them first for 30 years.
Posted by Matt from Denver on September 8, 2011 at 4:12 PM
Chef Thunder 11
This format sucks
Posted by Chef Thunder on September 8, 2011 at 4:14 PM
Bigsfrottin 12
Mitch McConnel looks like a sad little turtle.
Posted by Bigsfrottin on September 8, 2011 at 4:14 PM
Max Solomon 13
my browser never lets me see stuff after the jump - all i can see are Constant's comments. i have no choice but to go back to working on billable things. boo.
Posted by Max Solomon on September 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM
gloomy gus 14
@11, that liveblog thingy costs money. Keck's got a boat payment due this week, so suck it up.
Posted by gloomy gus on September 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM
pissy mcslogbot 15
This is 'merica and every child deserves to be modernized. bleep bloop beep.
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on September 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM
pissy mcslogbot 16
that texas republican and a mass dem line gave me a big boehner.
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on September 8, 2011 at 4:19 PM
pissy mcslogbot 17
yay, moar child labor for the kids building ladders...
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on September 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Paul Constant 18
@14: CiL doesn't cost money. Honestly, we're just trying different stuff out and seeing what works. I'm noting your protests, but we can't start up a liveblog in the middle of this speech.
Posted by Paul Constant http://https://twitter.com/paulconstant on September 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM
19
I feel so left out. So many smartass things to say and no one to share them with!
Posted by DannyG on September 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM
Bigsfrottin 20
how do I get the satisfaction of having my witty comments posted on liveslog???
Posted by Bigsfrottin on September 8, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Irena 21
Is it normal that he gets so many standing ovations, or is it like Catholic church, where you just kind of have to?
Posted by Irena on September 8, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Bigsfrottin 22
my ustream lagged at such a point that I think I know what Obama would look like as he prepared to give a blow job. Mmmm mmmm.
Posted by Bigsfrottin on September 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM
gloomy gus 23
@18, not to get meta, but I wasn't bothered, I was poking fun at 11 seeming to be. Thanks for caring tho.
Posted by gloomy gus on September 8, 2011 at 4:28 PM
pissy mcslogbot 24
warren buffet is like OBL.... think about it. pon raul sayz.
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on September 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM
Irena 25
whoo, patent reform! I was hoping to hear that.
Posted by Irena on September 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM
Matt from Denver 26
@ 21, it's normal.
Posted by Matt from Denver on September 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM
Matt from Denver 27
About this "Made in America" bit... I find it funny because Fox News just today published an article claiming that Obama was deliberately trying to derail that. Let me find it...
Posted by Matt from Denver on September 8, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Paul Constant 28
@23: D'oh! Everything is moving so quickly I don't have time to register fun-poking. Sorry.

@21: This kind of applause is pretty normal for this kind of thing. It's weird.
Posted by Paul Constant http://https://twitter.com/paulconstant on September 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Posted by Matt from Denver on September 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM
30
Obama is KILLING IT in this speech! Maybe it's because I'm watching and not being an online asshole throughout it, but I think this is a very effective speech. So I imagine the talking heads on tv are getting ready to tell me how much it sucked.
Posted by DannyG on September 8, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Irena 31
Michelle looks like she's falling asleep. Or bored to death. Do you think he talks like this at the dinner table all the time?
Posted by Irena on September 8, 2011 at 4:40 PM
Bigsfrottin 32
Biden is like the bass drum. His part is simple, but focus and commitment are key. Nod. Nod fervently. Nod. Nod fervently. Nod and Clap.
Posted by Bigsfrottin on September 8, 2011 at 4:41 PM
33
Lift every voice? Is that a dog whistle to his supporters in the Black church?
Posted by DannyG on September 8, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 34
While you guys were looking one way, the Congress just usurped the Constitution and rewrote the patent process into a system of private taxation.

Senate Passes Biggest Overhaul of Patent System Since 1952

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg…
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on September 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Big Matt G 35
Oh, Sweet Jeebus! Now NBC is talking about the lovely lightning show that is going on in DC right now. Happy news for happy people!
Posted by Big Matt G on September 8, 2011 at 4:44 PM
pissy mcslogbot 36
yeah, it was pretty o.k., kinda needed more applause for executions tho.
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on September 8, 2011 at 4:47 PM
37
@34

Equating higher patent fees to "private taxation" is a pretty laughable stretch.
Posted by The CHZA on September 8, 2011 at 4:47 PM
Irena 38
Well, that was rousing. I'm wondering how Republicans will spin this into an example of the anti-Americanism that's driving the country into the toilet? Oh well, I'm sure they'll find a way.
Posted by Irena on September 8, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Ziggity 39
@34: Did the patent office reject your Sad Bachelor brand one-person microwave again?
Posted by Ziggity on September 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM
40
Where the hell was this speechwriter for three years? Glad to see Obama finally breaking it down to simple talking points. He's usually way too cerebral for most Americans, but this was perfect. Time to bring back Bush-era drinking games for all this new repetition of buzzwords and key phrases.
Posted by Subdued Excitement on September 8, 2011 at 4:53 PM
41
O/T: 4th District just tossed out the Cuccinelli (& McKenna, et al) challenge to O'care.
Posted by RonK, Seattle on September 8, 2011 at 5:01 PM
42
@40 I drank every time he said "America" but I thought that was low hanging fruit.
Posted by DannyG on September 8, 2011 at 5:02 PM
43
+1 for the new live slog format. i didn't have any interest in watching the speech, but it was fun to read the commentary afterwards without waiting for the damn thing to load.
Posted by Valkyrie on September 8, 2011 at 5:10 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 44
#37, 39

Dudes. Haven't you noticed the grade curve going up and up here on SLOG...sorry if "your best" comments now only rate a Gentleman's C.
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com on September 8, 2011 at 5:22 PM
Irena 45
re: the new format, I think it's pretty good for something short, like this, where more people will be willing to read it after the fact, like @43. It was a bit of a hassle, but still, I commented, which I never do with live slogs, so yay for me. Thanks, Paul!
Posted by Irena on September 8, 2011 at 5:24 PM
Betsy Ross 46
I like Obama, and I hope the jobs plan is passed. As for the speech, saying "pass this bill right away" over and over irritated me eventually. Also, Obama's delivery sounded not quite sincere to me, which I've never felt before.
Posted by Betsy Ross on September 8, 2011 at 5:29 PM
Fifty-Two-Eighty 47
There is no way in hell he's gonna get this thing passed. First, it's not "paid for." Second, it repeals the Bush tax cuts. And finally, nobody has any guarantees that this money will create any real job growth. Good speech; lousy plan. It's dead in the water.
Posted by Fifty-Two-Eighty http://www.nra.org on September 8, 2011 at 5:51 PM
48
Boy, the teleprompter was really cooking tonight!
Posted by Spindles on September 8, 2011 at 6:15 PM
venomlash 49
@48: I'm sure you know he actually ad-libbed a few bits.
Posted by venomlash on September 8, 2011 at 6:23 PM
pissy mcslogbot 50
yeah, and what is up with that darned teleprompter leaving out all the juicy bits about the evil autistic risks of vaccines??
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on September 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM
Irena 51
Matt from Denver @29, thanks for the link. It's an interesting story, unfortunately marred by their disingenuous paranoia. Since when does Fox News give a damn about keeping jobs in America?
Posted by Irena on September 8, 2011 at 7:12 PM
pissy mcslogbot 52
@ bailo : you can finally make your millions on that jump to conclusions mat idea of yours.
Posted by pissy mcslogbot on September 8, 2011 at 7:28 PM
53
Unfortunately, the Joint Committee has 6 Republicans on it who have--as Obama noted--sworn to not raise taxes. That means not lifting tax exemptions from corporations, because that would be considered new taxation. This is not going to be a big win for the Dems, it is only a repeat of what was done 2 years ago and didn't work, and it will only give the Republicans more ammunition about big-spending government.
Posted by sarah70 on September 8, 2011 at 8:10 PM
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 54
I just don't give a rat's ass what Obama says in a speech.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceclop on September 8, 2011 at 8:21 PM
rob! 55
Paul Constant didn't actually deny that Tim Keck has a boat payment due.
Posted by rob! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBdUceCL5U on September 8, 2011 at 9:34 PM
56
"It's the Pass This Jobs Bill Jobs Bill!"

..... but other than that, when do we find out what it is? Is it like O'Bama care (only shorter)? Do we have to pass it to find out what it requires?

sigh.....
Posted by king solomon on September 9, 2011 at 12:37 AM
57
O/T: Correction: Not the same suit at all.
Posted by RonK, Seattle on September 9, 2011 at 10:42 AM

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