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News & ArtsMonday, July 25, 2011
Enviro The Illusion of Private Property
Posted by Charles Mudede on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:13 AM
Recently in the Oregonian...
(The story's web version is here, but the update only adds information that's favorable to the old property owner.)
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Well, why dont the people who want him to keep the trees up just pay him the value in timber that he would have gotten? That seems fair.
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His land, his call as long as it's within the zoning limits. Otherwise, the people need to buy the land from him.
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He's owned the property for decades, filled out all the correct papers, waiting until the summer to do this. How is this an outrage? This man is clearly within his rights to mow down all the trees on his property, even if he sells them, its his right.
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The sin of property
We do disdain
No one has any right to buy and sell
The earth for private gain
By theft and murder
They took the land
Now everywhere the walls
Rise up at their command.
We do disdain
No one has any right to buy and sell
The earth for private gain
By theft and murder
They took the land
Now everywhere the walls
Rise up at their command.
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In other news, local man without much stuff strongly espouses political philosophy that requires others to give their stuff to him.
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@9 Just what I was thinking. It's funny how those without like to complain about what those with choose to do with their property. Me, I wouldn't cut the trees. But anyone looking to complain about how I use my acreage this coming fall, when I selectively cut, can kiss my ass.
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Besides which, I'm sure no one complains when he pays what have got to be fairly extensive property taxes on that land, and has for years. Now they want him to keep paying yet not get the use out of his own land. Ridiculous.
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Property is a social construct ... but so are laws, rights, justice, a whole slew of lofty stuff.
In this particular case, woodland adds market value to adjacent property. The neighbors have been free riders for years, and they're pissed to have their tickets pulled.
In this particular case, woodland adds market value to adjacent property. The neighbors have been free riders for years, and they're pissed to have their tickets pulled.
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Couple of thoughts:
I hate to say it, but it is done all the time in Seattle in the name of "density."
Maybe at 88 years old this is his final big "fuck you" to all of his neighbors.
I hate to say it, but it is done all the time in Seattle in the name of "density."
Maybe at 88 years old this is his final big "fuck you" to all of his neighbors.
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Charles Muede's refusal to come wash my underwear without compensation is just him hoarding his so-called right to labor for pay.
I expect you others to help in putting him into shackles and permit me to properly chastise him for not washing my underwear.
I expect you others to help in putting him into shackles and permit me to properly chastise him for not washing my underwear.
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Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
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It's a shame to hear of so many trees being felled, but to begrudge the owner from a neighboring property which was also once such a forest and is now your home from which you sue...
I don't know why I'm writing in this crappy psuedo-poetic style, I'm trying to make this as short as possible.
I don't know why I'm writing in this crappy psuedo-poetic style, I'm trying to make this as short as possible.
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In other news, Slog commenters sneer and snark at observations beyond their silly, socially constructed conditioning.
Property is theft.
Property is theft.
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"They argue cutting the trees would harm the environment and disrupt populations of wild animals living in the area."
Oh, those lazy animals. Those shiftless trees. Why didn't they listen to the Sloggers and major in something practical, like business or engineering? Then they might have been able to get good jobs, buy their own homes, and have a say in their own survival. They really have no one to blame but themselves at this point.
Oh, those lazy animals. Those shiftless trees. Why didn't they listen to the Sloggers and major in something practical, like business or engineering? Then they might have been able to get good jobs, buy their own homes, and have a say in their own survival. They really have no one to blame but themselves at this point.
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