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Friday, April 15, 2011

Nearly 1,000 People Support Changes to NE 125th Street

Posted by on Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Yesterday, Cascade Bicycle Club policy director David Hiller presented Mayor Mike McGinn with a petition signed by 961 people who support the city's plan to put NE 125th street on a road diet by cutting the four-lane road down to two flanked by bike lanes and a center turn lane—a week after opponents of the plan submitted a petition of their own, signed by roughly 150 people.

At that meeting, McGinn reportedly told opponents that he was leaning toward approving the project, in which case, this latest round of petitions will surely make him lean harder.

"Normally we wouldn't do a petition," explains CBC spokesman Chris Rule, who launched the petition on Tuesday. "But we wanted to give voice to all the people out there and why they support the project. Now people can look at what their neighbors think and what their experiences have been."

Here's what supporters are saying:

"It is not a 'road diet'—it is a balanced meal, a 'road smorgasbord'," writes Don Brubeck on CBC's petition.

"I attend church on 125th and like to ride my bike to church. I'm hoping that you can add a bike lane and make my ride safer," writes Anne Symonds.

"I am a bicyclist and also a driver who uses this section of 125th approximately 2 times per month," writes Linda Versage." Sometimes on my bike, sometimes in my car. When I have bicycled on this street I have felt completely unsafe and vulnerable. I have had to ride on the sidewalks which are unsafe as there are overhanging branches, roots in the sidewalk, side streets to cross while on a fairly steep grade. In addition, I myself drive too fast on this roadway! I'm 55 years old and have been driving since I was 16. The only speeding ticket I have ever received was on this stretch of road for going over 40 miles per hour. The proposal to slow down cars and make this section of roadway safer for drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians is sound and should move forward quickly."

SDOT recommended changing the road to improve safety, after noting that the street sees higher collision rates than other arterials in the city, and drivers speed, on average, 10 miles over the posted limit.

Road diets are nothing new to the city. However, this particular stretch of street has been particularly contentious. Neighbors opposing the changes—which amount to little more than a paint job—have lobbied city officials for months to get the project killed. The NE 125th road diet would go into effect between Roosevelt Way NE and 28th Ave NE.

 

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I bet there are more 1,000 who are opposed to it. They just don't have an influential advocacy group behind them. Cascade Bicycle Club has a lot of clout on this city
Posted by Sheeeeit! on April 15, 2011 at 11:56 AM
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I live on 127th st, and drive on 125th at least two three times a day. I have never noticed enough bike or pedestrian traffic to warrant this.
Posted by yeah1 on April 15, 2011 at 12:18 PM
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I drive this stretch 4 times a week back and forth to work. It's not just bikes and peds, trying to drive this road and take a left across traffic is scary. It needs a center turn lane.
Posted by snooki on April 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 4

Great presentation by Cascade Bicycle Club at Kent Council Chambers yesterday on Complete Streets.

http://www.completestreets.org/

Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://yrihf.com on April 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM
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1,000 signatures from Lake City residents who actually use that road or 1,000 signatures from bike advocates in West Seattle/Ballard/Capitol Hill that look at a top down view of the city and see a "crucial connector" between Burke Gillman/Greenwood/Shoreline Trail?

I used to commute every day on that road. Average Joes are not going to fucking bike on this hill. It's ideology over practical sense and the best example of how short sighted and ass backwards the biking infrastructure plans in this city can be. Minor victories wasting countless dollars with half assed nonsensical bike lanes that take commuters absolutely no where. Oh but hey I'm sure SDOT will spend tens of thousands of dollars painting plenty of stick men which will outnumber the actual bikers on the road 10 to 1 like everywhere else in North Seattle.

And stop with the "it's a safety issue!" fucking bullshit. There are so many more dangerous roads in the city that deserve this kind of massive attention. This is an attempt to put a major east/west bike route through North Seattle that connects two major urban trails, period, end of story. Why in the fuck do you think the Cascade BIKE CLUB is spearheading this effort?

Honesty, at the very least, would be nice.

Don't even get me started on the condition of that road. I suppose it's acceptable it is to be encouraging bikers to be biking through pot holes as long as you get your "win" over the auto centric establishment! We are talking about safety, after all.
Posted by Solar System on April 15, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Joe M 6
Road smorgasbord? More like a turd sandwich.
Posted by Joe M on April 15, 2011 at 1:17 PM
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Really, a bicycle club getting cyclists to sign a petition in support of bike lanes? The fact they only got 1,000 is probably more telling.
Posted by bigyaz on April 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM
DOUG. 8
@2: That's because it's a shitty street to ride and walk on. For now.
Posted by DOUG. http://www.dougsvotersguide.com on April 15, 2011 at 3:34 PM
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125th has very wide, offset sidewalks. It is incredibly pedestrian friendly. Aside from the massive hike up the hill that no one takes because there's nothing worth getting to up there on foot that you can't get in Lake City, that is.
Posted by Solar System on April 15, 2011 at 4:03 PM
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 10
@9. It has incredibly crappy sidewalks with bad or no curb cuts. It'd be used more if it didn't suck so much.

And I've never noticed enough traffic on that street to merit it having four lanes, especially given that backups are almost always caused by people make a left turn.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceclop on April 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM
dwightmoodyforgetsthings 11
@Solar System in general. Have you biked that road lately? The condition of the road surface is not that bad, the only thing unsafe about the road is the lane set-up.

Your arguments seem to boil down to "I'm angry about this positive change because other changes would be better so we should block this because I'm angry." Stopping 125th from getting improved isn't going to fix another street. The goal should be fixing all the streets.

And as someone who rides around North Seattle all the time: Fuck you. Seriously, why not make it more bikable? You want average joes riding, you've got to provide the infrastructure. And I don't understand why you seem to think a bike club shouldn't be a bike advocacy organization.

You just seem really angry and I have no clue why, because what you say you're angry about doesn't merit any rage.
Posted by dwightmoodyforgetsthings http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceclop on April 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM
Free Lunch 12
@5 - This is barely about bicycles. All the other road diets have increased safety while not impacting car traffic one iota. Why is this one so specially different? Hell, you can't even use the left lanes on 125th because someone is always stopped in them, waiting to turn left. How many accidents are caused by the frustrated drivers behind them shooting out into the right lane - or just colliding with the stopped car? More than from a turn lane.

If you don't see bikes, it's because there's no bike lane, and riders are taking different, equally-hilly-but-less-direct routes. Before the Fauntleroy road diet (same volume as 125th), there were almost no bikes on it either, and it's FLAT. Plus, as a car, you now can turn left onto it without risking your life or waiting 10 minutes.

Just like my West Seattle friend who raged against the Fauntleroy road diet plan, you'll be eating crow soon enough.
Posted by Free Lunch on April 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM
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I havent seen anybody rage over this topic. At least not on this forum. And if you think making a left turn is scary you need to learn how to drive, aggravating yes, scary no. Pedestrians are fine as long as there is a sidewalk. It doesn't need to be paved with gold to walk on. Repaving the sidewalk would make it more stroller/wheelchair friendly, but again as someone who drives the road everyday, there is not enough bike or ped traffic for two bike lanes. Making one bike lane on the road or making one of the sidewalks bike friendly would be much more sensible. Along with fixing the potholes for the actual cars.
Posted by yeah1 on April 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM

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