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Panic / Health / ??!! Outraged Child Killers to Protest Against Bill Gates For Calling Them "Child Killers"
Posted by Goldy on Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:54 PM
I don't usually read any of the dozens of press releases that flood my inbox each day, but this one from the New York City Coalition for Vaccine Safety and Autism Advocacy Organizations had a long headline in BOLD CAPS, so of course, it caught my attention:
OUTRAGED AUTISM GROUPS AND LEADERS TO ANNOUNCE 50,000-PARENT PROTEST IN NYC AGAINST BILLIONAIRE AND MICROSOFT CHAIRMAN BILL GATES AFTER BEING CALLED "CHILD KILLERS"
Bill Gates called autism advocacy groups "child killers"? Wow. That's outrageous. Except, in Gates' defense, A) he didn't call autism groups who advocate against childhood vaccines "child killers," he said that they "kill children," and B) autism groups who advocate against childhood vaccines are child killers.
I mean, setting aside the fact that no credible scientific study has ever proven a causal link between childhood vaccines and autism, and the fact that the original study that sparked all this anti-vaccine hysteria was recently retracted as an "elaborate fraud," objectively, autism doesn't kill children, but childhood diseases do. Some of these unvaccinated children will needlessly get sick and die, as will other children too young or immune-compromised to be vaccinated, who subsequently catch illness due to the lack of herd immunity. So yes, I think it fair to say that these anti-vaccine advocates are "killing children," if indirectly.
And you know what else these vaccine deniers are? Fucking idiots who cannot accept that the "scientific" evidence on which their entire crusade is based simply no longer exists. You know what else doesn't exist? The Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and God. Believe in any or all of them if you please, but don't claim your faith is based on science, because it's not.
Now, I don't mean to be insensitive to the parents of autistic children. I'm a parent myself, and I can imagine how devastated I would have been had my daughter been diagnosed with autism. But you know what? Just because something awful afflicts your child and your family, doesn't mean it is somebody else's fault. Bad things happen, sometimes with no explanation, so if you have a God, and it makes you feel better, blame Him. But don't blame Bill Gates for trying to save millions of people through childhood vaccination; he's already got enough blood on his hands for Windows Vista.
And for goodness sake, get your kids vaccinated already!
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Can we add to the list people who believe that 9-11 was an inside job or believe that President Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii?
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More and more people are starting to wake up to vaccine truth. Bill Gates is a eugenicist and should be scorned for the racist, sterilization programs his tax shelter foundation is running all over the globe. We're not swallowing the poison that you, the supposedly 'liberal' paper are helping to promote.
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And you know what else these vaccine deniers are? Fucking idiots who cannot accept that the "scientific" evidence on which their entire crusade is based simply no longer exists.
Never did exist, in fact.
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Oh, might I add Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal authority and technological capability to take supreme command in cases of national emergency. The Air Force was running multiple war games on the morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA radar screens. These war games eerily mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded.
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Oh yeah, it's just a parody. No worries. Go out and get your h1n1 flu shot. Pump your kids full of squalene, formaldehyde and mercury. Autism has no connection to to massive increase in juvenile vaccination rates in the last 20 years.
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Goldy, you've got a typo in paragraph two. It should be "Gates'" or "Gates's", not "Gate's".
But for the rest, spot on.
But for the rest, spot on.
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But Goldy.
These people heard it from their friends who think it is plausible. And surely the artificial chemicals in the vaccines are bad and therefor cause autism! My aunt says that her son developed autism at kind of around the same year that he got vaccines. What more evidence do you need. I mean what is polio anyway. I don't know any kids who've gotten polio. I think it never existed, just another example of big pharma wanting to milk polio vaccine money out the public with their pattented chemical coctails! And anyway science is just another opinion! Shouldn't we teach both sides of the opinion!
These people heard it from their friends who think it is plausible. And surely the artificial chemicals in the vaccines are bad and therefor cause autism! My aunt says that her son developed autism at kind of around the same year that he got vaccines. What more evidence do you need. I mean what is polio anyway. I don't know any kids who've gotten polio. I think it never existed, just another example of big pharma wanting to milk polio vaccine money out the public with their pattented chemical coctails! And anyway science is just another opinion! Shouldn't we teach both sides of the opinion!
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Maybe the blame of autism can be laid at the feet of those evil Jews! They are always up to no good.
Maybe the blame of autism can be laid at the feet of those evil Jews! They are always up to no good.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3Hp…
Your opinion that vaccines do not cause brain disorders in infants is just that; an opinion. Cigarette lobbyists had a arsenal of quack doctors at their disposal for years publishing pseudo-scientific reports that smoking didn't cause cancer. The pharmaceutical industry reaps billions off of their product and has the medical establishment in their pocket.
Your opinion that vaccines do not cause brain disorders in infants is just that; an opinion. Cigarette lobbyists had a arsenal of quack doctors at their disposal for years publishing pseudo-scientific reports that smoking didn't cause cancer. The pharmaceutical industry reaps billions off of their product and has the medical establishment in their pocket.
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When you say pharmaceutical industry and medical establishment what you really meant to say was the Jews right?
Don’t be shy now.......
When you say pharmaceutical industry and medical establishment what you really meant to say was the Jews right?
Don’t be shy now.......
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Thanks for keeping up with this story. I've been outraged for years at these modern-day Typhoid Marys. Of all the stupidity going around, anti-vaccinationists have the greatest potential for widespread harm of anyone.
"Dr." Wakefield should be charged with manslaughter.
"Dr." Wakefield should be charged with manslaughter.
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@14: Just an opinion supported by independent science research MANY MANY TIMES.
Scientists, remember, the same ones who told you that cigarettes were bad without trying to sell you on any sort of cure for them?
Not to mention the fact that pharmaceuticals don't make much money on vaccines. Not to mention that your claim is basically that they are also making up diseases, diseases which we know are not made up. Not to mention that autism hasn't gone up since flu vaccines have come into the picture. Not to mention that many of the chemicals your talking about are present in smaller doses in a vaccine than they are in a fish sandwich. Not to mention this whole controversy is based on a guy who has been proven to have been motivated by money...JUST LIKE YOU'RE CLAIMING VACCINE SUPPORTERS ARE...oh hey, except the only PROOF applies to Wakefield and not anyone on the other side.
Great logic there.
I know I shouldn't be baited like this but this is a topic that really gets my goat.
Scientists, remember, the same ones who told you that cigarettes were bad without trying to sell you on any sort of cure for them?
Not to mention the fact that pharmaceuticals don't make much money on vaccines. Not to mention that your claim is basically that they are also making up diseases, diseases which we know are not made up. Not to mention that autism hasn't gone up since flu vaccines have come into the picture. Not to mention that many of the chemicals your talking about are present in smaller doses in a vaccine than they are in a fish sandwich. Not to mention this whole controversy is based on a guy who has been proven to have been motivated by money...JUST LIKE YOU'RE CLAIMING VACCINE SUPPORTERS ARE...oh hey, except the only PROOF applies to Wakefield and not anyone on the other side.
Great logic there.
I know I shouldn't be baited like this but this is a topic that really gets my goat.
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Science that vaccines do not cause brain disorders in infants is just that; well established scientific fact. You have no facts to supports your fucked up opinion.
Now go take your meds. Your mental illness is real and is not a conspiracy by "Big Pharm."
Now go take your meds. Your mental illness is real and is not a conspiracy by "Big Pharm."
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Jesus. Fucking. Christ. You just can NOT win with these people. 100 years ago childhood illnesses killed and maimed countless children (do you anti-vaxers have ANY fucking idea what rubella can do to an unborn child, as just one example?). It was just an accepted fact of life. Then mass vaccination campaigns begin, mortality plummets, and suddenly all these people are saying "oh, childhood diseases are no big deal! It's not like people actually died!". Because they grew up in a time that so many fewer kids did. (and don't give me that "the diseases were getting weaker" horseshit, there is no fucking science to back that up) People who oppose vaccination are just completely unable to understand basic fucking math. /rant over.
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Vaccines and Immunization References and Research Citations Vaccines Have Been Linked to Leukemias and Lymphomas:
Bichel, “Post-vaccinial Lymphadenitis Developing into Hodgkin’s Disease”, Acta Med Scand, 1976, Vol 199, p523-525.
Stewart, AM, et al, “Aetiology of Childhood Leukaemia”, Lancet, 16 Oct, 1965, 2:789-790. [Listed under Vaccine Adverse Reactions.]
Glathe, H et al, “Evidence of Tumorigenic Activity of Candidate Cell Substrate in Vaccine Production by the Use of Anti-Lymphocyte Serum”, Development Biol Std, 1977, 34:145-148.
Bolognesi, DP, “Potential Leukemia Virus Subunit Vaccines: Discussion”, Can Research, Feb 1976, 36(2 pt 2):655-656.
Colon, VF, et al, “Vaccinia Necrosum as a Clue to Lymphatic Lymphoma”, Geriatrics, Dec 1968, 23:81-82.
Park-Dincsoy, H et al, “Lymphoid Depletion in a case of Vaccinia Gangrenosa”, Laval Med, Jan 1968, 39:24-26.
Hugoson, G et al, “The Occurrence of Bovine Leukosis Following the Introduction of Babesiosis Vaccination”, Bibl Haemat, 1968, 30:157-161.
Hartstock, , “”Post-vaccinial Lymphadenitis: Hyperplasia of Lymphoid Tissue That Simulates Malignant Lymphomas”, Apr 1968, Cancer, 21(4):632-649.
Allerberger, F, “An Outbreak of Suppurative Lymphadenitis Connected with BCG Vaccination in Austria- 1990/1991,” Am Rev Respir Disorder, Aug 1991, 144(2) 469.
Omokoku B, Castells S, “Post-DPT inoculation cervical lymphadenitis in children.” N Y State J Med 1981 Oct;81(11):1667-1668. Vaccines and Chromosome Changes Leading to Mutations:
Knuutila, S et al, “An Increased Frequency of Chromosomal Changes and SCE’s in Cultured Lymphocytes of 12 Subjects Vaccinated Against Smallpox,” Hum Genet, 1978 Feb 23; 41(1):89-96.
Cherkeziia, SE, et al, “Disorders in the Murine Chromosome Apparatus Induced By Immunization with a Complex of Anti-viral Vaccines,” Vopr Virusol, 1979 Sept Oct, (5):547-550.
[Note: SCE means sister chromatid exchange and is an indication that genetic mutations are occurring, which could possibly lead to cancer-causing mutations. Vaccines and Auto-immunity Citations:
Romanov, V A, et al, "Role of Auto-immune Processes in the Pathogenesis of Post-Vaccinal Lesions of the Nervous System", Oct 1977, Zh Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol, 10:80-83.
Grachev, V P, et al, "Formation of Auto-antibodies in Laboratory Animals After Inoculation of Viruses With Different Virulence. I. Results of Studies ..., July 1973, Acta Virol (Praha), 17:319-326.
Movsesiants, AA, et al, "Experimental Study of the Ability of Different Strains of Vaccinia Virus to Induce Auto-Antibody Formation", Vopr Virusol, May-Jun 1975; (3):297-302.
Negina, IuP, "Comparative Study of Auto-antibody Formation Following Immunization With Different Types of Typhoid Vaccines", Zh Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol, May 1980; (5):69-72. Vaccinations and Diabetes Citations:
Sinaniotis, et al, "Diabetes Mellitus after Mumps Vaccination", Arc Dis Child, 1975, 50:749.66
Polster, H, "Diabetes insipidus after Smallpox vaccination", Z Aerztl Fortbild (Jena), 1 Apr 1966, 60:429-432.
Patan, "Postvaccinal Severe Diabetes Mellitus", Ter Arkh, Jul 1968, 40:117-118.
Classen, JB, MD, "The Timing of Immunization Affects The Development of Diabetes in Rodents", Autoimmunity, 1996, 24:137-145.
Classen JB, "The diabetes epidemic and the hepatitis B vaccines," N Z Med J, 109(1030):366 1996 Sep 27. [letter]
Classen JB, “Childhood immunisation and diabetes mellitus,” N Z Med J, 109(1022):195 1996 May 24 [letter]
Poutasi K, ” Immunisation and diabetes,” N Z Med J 1996 Jul 26;109(1026):283. [letter; comment] Other Articles Linking Diabetes to Vaccines:
Dokheel, T M, “An Epidemic of Childhood Diabetes in the United States? Evidence from ….”, Diabetes Care, 1993, 16:1606-1611.
Parent ME, et al, “Bacille Calmette-Guerin vaccination and incidence of IDDM in Montreal, Canada,” Diabetes Care 1997 May; 20(5):767-772.
House DV, Winter WE, “Autoimmune diabetes. The role of auto-antibody markers in the prediction and prevention of insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus,” Clin Lab Med 1997 Sep; 17(3):499-545.
Zeigler, M et al , “[Autoantibodies in type 1 diabetes mellitus]” Z Arztl Fortbild (Jena). 1994 Aug; 88(7-8):561-5 Vaccines and Nervous System Changes:
Bondarev, VN et al, “The Changes of the Nervous System in Children After Vaccination”, Pediatria, Jun 1969; 48:20-24.
Ehrengut W, “Central nervous sequelae of vaccinations,” Lancet 1986 May 31;1(8492):1275-1276.
Provvidenza, G et al, [On a Case of Benign Acute Cerebellar Ataxia in Childhood], Arch Ital Sci Med Trop, 43:189-194, Apr 1962.
Katsilambros, L, “[The Phenomenom of Apathy in Man and Animals After the Injection of Viruses in Very High Doses. Clinical Data]“, Rev Med Moyen Orient, 20:539-546, Nov – Dec 1963. Vaccinations and Autism Citations:
Eggers, C, “Autistic Syndrome (Kanner) And Vaccinations against Smallpox”, Klin Paediatr, Mar 1976, 188(2):172-180.
Kiln MR, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.” Lancet 1998 May 2;351(9112):1358.
Selway, “MMR vaccination and autism 1998. Medical practitioners need to give more than reassurance.” BMJ 1998 Jun 13;316(7147):1824.
Nicoll A, Elliman D, Ross E, “MMR vaccination and autism 1998,” MJ 1998 Mar 7;316(7133):715-716.
Lindley K J, Milla PJ, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.”Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907-908.
Bedford H, et al, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.” Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907.
Vijendra K. Singh, Sheren X. Lin, and Victor C. Yang, “Serological Association of Measles Virus and Human Herpesvirus-6 with Brain Autoantibodies in Autism,” Clinical Immunology and Immunopathology, Oct 1998, Vol. 89, No. 1, p 105-108. ["None of the autistic children in the study had measles in the past, but all had the MMR" stated David Whalgren. Vaccines and Demyelination Citations:
Herroelen, L et al, "Central-Nervous-System Demyelination After Immunization with Recombinant Hepatitis B Vaccine", Lancet, Nov 9, 1991, 338(8776):1174-1175.
Kaplanski G, Retornaz F, Durand J, Soubeyrand J, "Central nervous system demyelination after vaccination against hepatitis B and HLA haplotype." J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 1995 Jun; 58(6):758-759.
Matyszak MK, Perry VH, "Demyelination in the central nervous system following a delayed-type hypersensitivity response to bacillus Calmette-Guerin." Neuroscience 1995 Feb;64(4):967-977.
Tornatore CS, Richert JR, "CNS demyelination associated with diploid cell rabies vaccine." Lancet 1990 Jun 2;335(8701):1346-1347.
Adams, JM et al, "Neuromyelitis Optica: Severe Demyelination Occurring Years After Primary Smallpox Vaccinations", Rev Roum Neurol, 1973, 10:227-231.
In 1988, Dietrich used MRI to show that developmentally delayed children had alterations in their myelin. Coulter described that central nervous system damage can be exhibited as abnormal behavior of the child. In 1935, Thomas Rivers, experimental allergic encephalitis (EAE) can be the result of a viral or bacterial infection of the nervous system. "The fact of the matter is that it is a matter of record that it was known that vaccination produced encephalitis since 1926." The authors stated, "In regions in which there is no organized vaccination of the population, general paralysis is rare. ... It is impossible to deny a connection between vaccinations and the encephalitis (brain damage) which follows it." Vaccines have been linked to seizures, convulsions and epilepsy. Vaccinations and Seizures:
Hirtz DG, Nelson KB, Ellenberg J H, "Seizures following childhood immunizations", Pediatr 1983 Jan; 102(1):14-18.
Cherry JD, Holtzman AE, Shields WD, Buch D, Nielsen, "Pertussis immunization and characteristics related to first seizures in infants and children,"J Pediatr 1993 Jun;122(6):900-903.
Coplan J, "Seizures following immunizations," J Pediatr 1983 Sep;103(3):496.
Barkin RM, Jabhour JT, Samuelson J S, "Immunizations, seizures, and subsequent evaluation," JAMA 1987 Jul 10;258(2):201.
Griffin MR, et al, "Risk of seizures after measles-mumps-rubella immunization," Pediatrics 1991 Nov;88(5):881-885.
Griffin MR, et al, "Risk of seizures and encephalopathy after immunization with the diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine," JAMA 1990 Mar 23-30;263(12):1641-1645.
Cizewska S, Huber Z, Sluzewski W, "[Prophylactic inoculations and seizure activity in the EEG],” Neurol Neurochir Pol 1981 Sep-Dec;15(5-6):553-557. [Article in Polish]
Huttenlocher PR, Hapke RJ, “A follow-up study of intractable seizures in childhood.” Ann Neurol 1990 Nov; 28(5):699-705.
Blumberg DA, “Severe reactions associated with diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine: detailed study of children with seizures, hypotonic-hypo-responsive episodes, high fevers, and persistent crying.”Pediatrics 1993 Jun; 91(6):1158-1165. Vaccinations and Convulsions Citations:
Prensky AL, et al, “History of convulsions and use of pertussis vaccine,” J Pediatr 1985 Aug; 107(2):244-255.
Baraff LJ, “Infants and children with convulsions and hypotonic-hypo-responsive episodes following diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis immunization: follow-up evaluation,” Pediatrics 1988 Jun; 81(6):789-794.
Jacobson V, “Relationship of pertussis immunization to the onset of epilepsy, febrile convulsions and central nervous system infections: a retrospective epidemiologic study,” Tokai J Exp Clin Med 1988;13 Suppl: 137-142.
Cupic V,et al, “[Role of DTP vaccine in the convulsive syndromes in children],” Lijec Vjesn 1978 Jun; 100(6):345-348. [Article in Serbo-Croatian (Roman)]
Pokrovskaia NIa, “[Convulsive syndrome in DPT vaccination (a clinico-experimental study)],” Pediatriia 1983 May;(5):37-39. [Article in Russian] Vaccinations and Epilepsy Citations:
Ballerini, Ricci, B, et al, “On Neurological Complications of Vaccination, With Special Reference to Epileptic Syndromes,” Riv Neurol, Jul-Aug 1973, 43:254-258.
Wolf SM, Forsythe A, “Epilepsy and mental retardation following febrile seizures in childhood,” Acta Paediatr Scand 1989 Mar;78(2):291-295. ________________________________________ Vaccines and Brain Swelling:
Iwasa, S et al, “Swelling of the Brain in Mice Caused by Pertussis … Quantitative Determination and the Responsibility of the Vaccine”, Jpn J Med Sci Biol, 1985 , 38(2):53-65.
Mathur R, Kumari S, “Bulging fontanel following triple vaccine.” Indian Pediatr 1981 Jun;18(6):417-418.
Barry W, Lenney W, Hatcher G, “Bulging fontanelles in infants without meningitis.” Arch Dis Child 1989 Apr;64(4):635-636.
Shendurnikar N, “Bulging fontanel following DPT” Indian Pediatr 1986 Nov;23(11):960.
Gross TP, Milstien JB, Kuritsky JN, “Bulging fontanelle after immunization with diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine and diphtheria-tetanus vaccine.” J Pediatr 1989 Mar;114(3):423-425.
Jacob J, Mannino F, “Increased intracranial pressure after diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis immunization.” Am J Dis Child 1979 Feb;133(2):217-218.
Dugmore, WN, “Bilateral Oedema at the Posterior Pole. Hypersensitivity Reaction to Alavac P injection.” Br J Ophthalmol, Dec 1972, 55:848-849. Vaccines and Neurological Damage
Nedar P R, and Warren, R J, “Reported Neurological Disorders Following Live Measles Vaccine”, 1968, Ped, 41:997-1001.
Paradiso, G et al, “Multifocal Demyelinating Neuropathy after Tetanus Vaccine”, Medicina (B Aires), 1990, 50(1):52-54.
Landrigan, PJ, Whitte, J, “Neurologic Disorders Following Live Measles-virus Vaccination”, JAMA, Mar 26, 1973, v223(13):1459-1462.
Turnbull, H M, “Encephalomyelitis Following Vaccination”, Brit Jour Exper Path, 7:181, 1926.
Kulenkampff, M et al, “Neurological Complications of Pertussis Inoculation”, Arch Dis Child, 1974, 49:46.
Strom, J, “Further Experience of Reactions, Especially of a Cerebral Nature in Conjunction with Triple Vaccination”, Brit Med Jour, 1967, 4:320-323.
Berg, J M, “Neurological Complications of Pertussis Immunization,” Brit Med Jour, July 5,1958; p 24.
Bondarev, VN et al, “The Changes of the Nervous System in Children After Vaccination”, Pediatria, Jun 1969; 48:20-24.
Badalian, LO, “Vaccinal Lesions of the Nervous System in Children,” Vop Okhr Materin Dets, Dec 1959, 13:54-59
Lorentz, IT, et al, “Post-Vaccinal Sensory Polyneuropathy with Myoclonus”, Proc Aust Ass Neurol, 1969, 6:81-86.
Trump, R C, White, T R, “Cerebellar Ataxia Presumed Due To Live Attenuated Measles Virus Vaccine,” JAMA, 1967, 199:165-166.
Allerdist, H, “Neurological Complications Following Measles Vaccination”, Inter Symp, Brussels, 1978, Development Biol Std, Vol 43, 259-264.
Finley, K H, “Pathogenesis of Encephalitis Occurring With Vaccination, Variola and Measles, Arch Neur and Psychologist, 1938; 39:1047-1054.
Froissart, M et al, “Acute Meningoencephalitis Immediately after an Influenza Vaccination”, Lille Med, Oct 1978, 23(8):548-551.
Pokrovskaia, Nia, et al, “Neurological Complications in Children From Smallpox Vaccination”, Pediatriia, Dec 1978, (12):45-49.
Allerdist, H, “Neurological Complications Following Measles Virus Vaccination. Evaluation of the Cases seen Between 1971-1977″, Monatsschr Kinderheilkd, Jan 1979, 127(1): 23-28.
Ehrengut, W et al, “On Convulsive Reactions Following Oral vaccination Against Polio”, Klin Paediatr, May 1979, 191(3):261-270.
Naumova, R P, et al, “Encephalitis Developing After Vaccination without a Local Skin Reaction”, Vrach Delo, Jul 1979, (7):114-115.
Goswamy, BM, “Neurological Complications After Smallpox Vaccination”, J Ass Phys India, Jan 1969, 17:41-43.
Schchelkunov, SN et al, “The Role of Viruses in the Induction of Allergic Encephalomyelitis,” Dokl Akad Nauk SSSR, 1990,315(1):252-255. [Vaccines contain viruses, too]
Walker AM, “Neurologic events following diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis immunization,” Pediatrics 1988 Mar;81(3):345-349.
Shields WD, et al, “Relationship of pertussis immunization to the onset of neurologic disorders: a retrospective epidemiologic study,” J Pediatr 1988 Nov; 113(5):801-805.
Wilson J, “Proceedings: Neurological complications of DPT inoculation in infancy,” Arch Dis Child 1973 Oct; 48(10):829-830.
Iakunin IuA, “[Nervous system complications in children after preventive vaccinations],” Pediatriia 1968 Nov; 47(11):19-26. [Article in Russian]
Greco D, et al, “Case-control study on encephalopathy associated with diphtheria-tetanus immunization in Campania, Italy,” Bull World Health Organ 1985;63(5):919-925.
Ehrengut W at Institute of Vaccinology and Virology, Hamburg, Germany states, “Bias in the evaluation of CNS complications following pertussis immunization are the following: 1) Notifications of post-immunization adverse events, 2) Publications by vaccine producers on the frequency of adverse reactions, 3) Comparison of permanent brain damage after DPT and DT immunization, 4) Pro-immunization, 5) Immunization associated viral encephalitis, 6) Accuracy of statistics, 7) Personal. A review of these points indicates an underestimation of CNS complications after pertussis immunization.”
Reference: Ehrengut W, “Bias in evaluating CNS complications following pertussis immunization.” Acta Paediatr Jpn, 1991 Aug; 33(4):421-427. Vaccinations and Unexplained Diseases:
Hiner, E E, Frasch, C E, “Spectrum of Disease Due to Haemophilus Influenza Type B Occurring in Vaccinated Children”, J Infect Disorder, 1988 Aug; 158(2): 343-348.
Olin P, Romanus, V, Storsaeter, J, “Invasive Bacterial Infections During an Efficiacy Trial of Acellular Pertussis Vaccines — Implications For Future Surveilance In Pertussis Vaccine Programmes”, Tokai J Exp Clin Med, 1988; 13 Suppl: 143-144.
Storsaeter, J, et al, “Mortality and Morbidity From Invasive Bacterial Infections During a Clinical Trial of Acellular Pertussis Vaccines in Sweden”, Pediatr Infect Disorder J, 1988 Sept; 7(9):637-645.
Vadheim, CM, et al, “Effectiveness and Safety of an Haemophilus Influenzae type b Conjugate Vaccine (PRP-T) in Young Infants. Kaiser-UCLA Vaccine Study Group,” Pediartics, 1993 Aug; 92(2):272-279. [The vaccines caused fevers, irritability, crying, and seizures, but were declared to be "safe and ... effective ... ".]
Stickl, H, “Estimation of Vaccination Damage”, Med Welt, Oct 14, 1972, 23:1495-1497.
Waters, VV, et al, “Risk Factors for Measles in a Vaccinated Population”, JAMA, Mar 27, 1991, 265(12): 1527.
Stickl, H, “Iatrogenic Immuno-suppression as a Result of Vaccination”, Fortschr Med, Mar 5, 1981, 99(9);289-292. Vaccine Citations Linking the Vaccine to the “prevented” Disease:
Nkowane, et al, “Vaccine-Associated Paralytic Poliomyelitis, US 1973 through 1984, JAMA, 1987, Vol 257:1335-1340.
Quast, et al, “Vaccine Induced Mumps-like Diseases”, nd, Int Symp on Immun, Development Bio Stand, Vol 43, p269-272.
Green, C et al, “A Case of Hepatitis Related to Etretinate Therapy and Hepatitis B Vaccine”, Dermatologica, 1991, 182(2):119-120.
Shasby, DM, et al, “Epidemic Measles in Highly Vaccinated Population”, NEJM, Mar 1977, 296(11): 585-589.
Tesovic, G et al, “Aseptic Meningitis after Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccine”, Lancet, Jun 12, 1993, 341(8859):1541.
Johnson, RH, et al, “Nosocomial Vaccinia Infection”, West J Med, Oct 1976, 125(4):266-270.
Malengreau, M, “Reappearance of Post-Vaccination Infection of Measles, Rubella, and Mumps. Should Adolescents be re-vaccinated?” Pedaitric, 1992;47(9):597-601 (25 ref)
Basa, SN, “Paralytic Poliomyelitis Following Inoculation With Combined DTP Prophylactic. A review of Sixteen cases with Special Reference to Immunization Schedules in Infancy”, J Indian Med Assoc, Feb 1, 1973, 60:97-99.
Landrigan, PJ et al, “Measles in Previously Vaccinated Children in Illinois”, Ill Med J, Arp 1974, 141:367-372.
NA, “Vaccine-Associated Poliomyelitis”, Med J Aust, Oct 1973, 2:795-796. Vaccine Failures Citations:
Hardy, GE, Jr, et al, “The Failure of a School Immunization Campaign to Terminate an Urban Epidemic of Measles,” Amer J Epidem, Mar 1970; 91:286-293.
Cherry, JD, et al, “A Clinical and Serologic Study of 103 Children With Measles Vaccine Failure”, J Pediatr, May 1973; 82:801-808.
Jilg, W, et al, “Inoculation Failure Following Hepatitis B Vaccination”, Dtsch Med wochenschr, 1990 Oct 12; 115(41):1514-1548.
Plotkin, SA, “Failures of Protection by Measles Vaccine,” J Pediatr, May 1973; 82:798-801.
Bolotovskii, V, et al, “Measles Incidence Among Children Properly Vaccinated Against This Infection”, ZH Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol, 1974; 00(5):32-35.
Landrigan, PJ, et al, “Measles in Previously Vaccinated Children in Illinois”, Ill Med J, Apr 1974; 141:367-372.
Strebel, P et al, “An Outbreak of Whooping Cough in a Highly Vaccinated Urban Community”, J Trop Pediatr, Mar 1991, 37(2): 71-76.
Forrest, JM, et al, “Failure of Rubella Vaccination to Prevent Congenital Rubella,”Med J Aust, 1977 Jan 15; 1(3): 77.
Jilg, W, “Unsuccessful Vaccination against Hepatitis B”, Dtsch Med Wochenschr, Nov 16, 1990, 115(46):1773.
Coles, FB, et al, “An Outbreak of Influenza A (H3N2) in a Well-Immunized Nursing home Population,” J Am ger Sociologist, Jun 1992, 40(6):589-592.
Jilg, W, et al, “Inoculation Failure following Hepatitis B Vaccination,” Dtsch Med Wochenschr, Oct 12, 1990, 115(41):1545-1548.
Hartmann, G et al, “Unsuccessful Inoculation against Hepatitis B,” Dtsch Med Wochenschr, May 17, 1991, 116(20): 797.
Buddle, BM et al, “Contagious Ecthyma Virus-Vaccination Failures”, Am J Vet Research, Feb 1984, 45(2):263-266.
Mathias, R G, “Whooping Cough In Spite of Immunization”, Can J Pub Health, 1978 Mar/Apr; 69(2):130-132.
Osterholm, MT, et al, “Lack of Efficacy of Haemophilus b Polysacharide Vaccine in Minnesota”, JAMA, 1988 Sept 9; 260(10:1423-1428.
Johnson, RH, et al, “Nosocomial Vaccinia Infection”, West J Med, Oct 1976, 125(4):266-270. Vaccines Causing Another Vaccinal Disease:
Basa, SN, “Paralytic Poliomyelitis Following Inoculation With Combined DTP Prophylactic. A review of Sixteen cases with Special Reference to Immunization Schedules in Infancy”, J Indian Med Assoc, Feb 1, 1973, 60:97-99.
Pathel, JC, et al, “Tetanus Following Vaccination Against Small-pox”, J Pediatr, Jul 1960; 27:251-263.
Favez, G, “Tuberculous Superinfection Following a Smallpox Re-Vaccination”, Praxis, July 21, 1960; 49:698-699.
Quast, Ute, and Hennessen, “Vaccine-Induced Mumps-like Diseases”, Intern Symp on Immunizations , Development Bio Stand, Vol 43, p 269-272.
Forrest, J M, et al, “Clinical Rubella Eleven months after Vaccination,” Lancet, Aug 26, 1972, 2:399-400.
Dittman, S, “Atypical Measles after Vaccination”, Beitr Hyg Epidemiol, 19891, 25:1-274 (939 ref)
Sen S, et al, “Poliomyelitis in Vaccinated Children”, Indian Pediatr, May 1989, 26(5): 423-429.
Arya, SC, “Putative Failure of Recombinant DNA Hepatitis B Vaccines”, Vaccine, Apr 1989, 7(2): 164-165.
Lawrence, R et al, “The Risk of Zoster after Varicella Vaccination in Children with Leukemia”, NEJM, Mar 3, 1988, 318(9): 543-548. Vaccination Citations and Death
Na, “DPT Vaccination and Sudden Infant Death – Tennessee, US Dept HEW, MMWR Report, Mar 23, 1979, vol 28(11): 132.
Arevalo, “Vaccinia Necrosum. Report on a Fatal Case”, Bol Ofoc Sanit Panamer, Aug 1967, 63:106-110.
Connolly, J H, Dick, G W, Field, CM, “A Case of Fatal Progressive Vaccinia”, Brit Med Jour, 12 May 1962; 5288:1315-1317.
Aragona, F, “Fatal Acute Adrenal Insufficiency Caused by Bilateral Apoplexy of the Adrenal Glands (WFS) following Anti-poliomyelitis Vaccination”, Minerva Medicolegale, Aug 1960; 80:167-173.
Moblus, G et al, “Pathological-Anatomical Findings in Cases of Death Following Poliomyelitis and DPT Vaccination”, Dtsch Gesundheitsw, Jul 20, 1972, 27:1382-1386.
NA, “Immunizations and Cot Deaths”, Lancet, Sept 25, 1982, np.
Goetzeler, A, “Fatal Encephalitis after Poliomyelitis Vaccination”, 22 Jun 1961, Muenchen Med Wschr, 102:1419-1422.
Fulginiti, V, “Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Diphtheria-Tetanus Toxoid-Pertussis Vaccination and Visits to the Doctor: Chance Association or Cause and Effect?”, Pediatr Infect Disorder, Jan-Feb 1983, 2(1): 7-11.
Baraff, LJ, et al, “Possible Temporal Association Between Diphtheria-tetanus toxoid-Pertussis Vaccination and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome”, Pediatr Infect Disorder, Jan-Feb 1983, 2(1): 5-6.
Reynolds, E, “Fatal Outcome of a Case of Eczema Vaccinatum”, Lancet, 24 Sept 1960, 2:684-686.
Apostolov. et al, “Death of an Infant in Hyperthermia After Vaccination”, J Clin Path, Mar 1961, 14:196-197.
Bouvier-Colle, MH, “Sex-Specific Differences in Mortality After High-Titre Measles Vaccination”, Rev Epidemiol Sante Publique, 1995; 43(1): 97.
Stewart GT, “Deaths of infants after triple vaccine.”, Lancet 1979 Aug 18;2(8138):354-355.
Flahault A, “Sudden infant death syndrome and diphtheria/tetanus toxoid/pertussis/poliomyelitis immunisation.”, Lancet 1988 Mar 12;1(8585):582-583.
Larbre, F et al, “Fatal Acute Myocarditis After Smallpox Vaccination”, Pediatrie, Apr-May 1966, 21:345-350.
Mortimer EA Jr, “DTP and SIDS: when data differ”, Am J Public Health 1987 Aug; 77(8):925-926. Vaccines and Metabolism Citations:
Deutsch J, ” [Temperature changes after triple-immunization in infant age],” Padiatr Grenzgeb 1976;15(1):3-6. [Article in German]
NA, “[Temperature changes after triple immunization in childhood],” Padiatr Grenzgeb 1976;15(1):7-10. [Article in German]
[Considering that the thyroid controls our Basal Metabolism, it would appear that vaccines altered (depressed) thyroid activity.] Vaccines Altering Resistance to Disease:
Burmistrova AL, “[Change in the non-specific resistance of the body to influenza and acute respiratory diseases following immunization diphtheria-tetanus vaccine],” Zh Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol 1976; (3):89-91. [Article in Russian] Vaccinations and Deafness Citations: So I did a background check to see if there was any scientific evidence linking vaccines to deafness and hearing loss. Here are some of the articles I found:
Kaga, “Unilateral Total Loss of Auditory and Vestibular Function as a Complication of Mumps Vaccination”, Int J Ped Oto, Feb 1998, 43(1):73-73
Nabe-Nielsen, Walter, “Unilateral Total Deafness as a Complication of the Measles- Mumps- Rubella Vaccination”, Scan Audio Suppl, 1988, 30:69-70
Hulbert, et al, “Bilateral Hearing Loss after Measles and Rubella Vaccination in an Adult”, NEJM, 1991 July, 11;325(2):134
Healy, “Mumps Vaccine and Nerve Deafness”, Am J Disorder Child, 1972 Jun; 123(6):612
Jayarajan, Sedler, “Hearing Loss Following Measles Vaccination”, J Infect, 1995 Mar; 30(2):184-185
Pialoux, P et al, “Vaccinations and Deafness”, Ann Otolaryng (Paris), Dec 1963, 80:1012-1013.
Angerstein, W, et al, “Solitary Hearing and Equilibrium Damage After Vaccinations”, Gesundheitswesen, May 1995, 57(5): 264-268.
Brodsky, Stanievich, “Sensorineural Hearing Loss Following Live Measles Virus Vaccination”, Int J Ped Oto, 1985 Nov; 10(2):159-163
Koga, et al, “Bilateral Acute Profound Deafness After MMR Vaccination- Report of a Case”, Nippon Jibiin Gakkai Kai, 1991 Aug;94(8):1142-5
Seiferth, LB, “Deafness after Oral Poliomyelitis Vaccination – a Case Report and Review”, HNO, 1977 Aug; 25(8): 297-300
Pantazopoulos, PE, “Perceptive Deafness Following Prophylactic use of Tetanus anittoxin”, Laryngoscope, Dec 1965, 75:1832-1836.
Zimmerman, W, “Observation of a case of Acute Bilateral Hearing Impairment Following Preventive Poliomyelitis Vaccination (type 3)”, Arch Ohr Nas Kehlkopfheilk, 1965, 185:723-725. Vaccinations and Kidney Disorders Citations:
Jacquot, C et al, “Renal Risk in Vaccination”, Nouv Presse Med, Nov 6, 1982, 11(44):3237-3238.
Giudicelli, et al, “Renal Risk in Vaccination”, Presse Med, Jun 11, 1982, 12(25):1587-1590.
Tan, SY, et al, “Vaccine Related Glomerulonephritis”, BMJ, Jan 23, 1993, 306(6872):248.
Pillai, JJ, et al, “Renal Involvement in Association with Post-vaccination Varicella”, Clin Infect Disorder, Dec 1993, 17(6): 1079-1080.
Eisinger, AJ et al, “Acute Renal Failure after TAB and Cholera Vaccination”, B Med J, Feb 10, 1979, 1(6160):381-382.
Silina, ZM, et al, “Causes of Postvaccinal Complications in the Kidneys in Young Infants”, Pediatria, Dec 1978, (12):59-61.
Na, “Albuminurias”, Concours Med, Mar 1964, 85:5095-5098. [vaccination adverse reactions]
Oyrl, A, et al, “Can Vaccinations Harm the Kidney?”, Clin Nephrol, 1975, 3(5):204-205.
Mel’man Nia, “[Renal lesions after use of vaccines and sera].” Vrach Delo 1978 Oct;(10):67-9, [Article in Russian]
Silina ZM, Galaktionova TIa, Shabunina NR, “[Causes of postvaccinal complications in the kidneys in young infants].” Pediatriia 1978 Dec;(12):59-61, [Article in Russian]
Silina EM, et al, “[Some diseases of the kidneys in children during the 1st year of life, following primary smallpox vaccination and administration of pertusis-diphtheria-tetanus vaccine].” Vopr Okhr Materin Det 1968 Mar; 13(3):79-80, [Article in Russian] Vaccines and Skin Disorders Citations:
Illingsworth R, Skin rashes after triple vaccine,” Arch Dis Child 1987 Sep; 62(9):979.
Lupton GP, “Discoid lupus erythematosus occurring in a smallpox vaccination scar,” J Am Acad Dermatol, 1987 Oct; 17(4):688-690.
Kompier, A J, “Some Skin Diseases caused by Vaccinia Virus [Smallpox],” Ned Milt Geneesk T, 15:149-157, May 1962.
Weber, G et al, “Skin Lesions Following Vaccinations,” Deutsch Med Wschr, 88:1878-1886, S7 Sept 1963.
Copeman, P W, “Skin Complications of Smallpox Vaccination,” Practitioner, 197:793-800, Dec 1966.
Denning, DW, et al, “Skin Rashes After Triple Vaccine,” Arch Disorder Child, May 1987, 62(5): 510-511. Vaccinations and Abcesses:
Sterler, HC, et al, “Outbreaks of Group A Steptococcal Abcesses Following DTP Vaccination”, Pediatrics, Feb 1985, 75(2):299-303.
DiPiramo, D, et al, “Abcess Formation at the Site of Inoculation of Calmette-Guerin Bacillus (BCG),” Riv Med Aeronaut Spaz, Jul-Dec 1981, 46(3-4):190-199. Vaccinations and Shock:
Caileba, A et al, “Shock associated with Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation Syndrome following Injection of DT.TAB Vaccine, Prese Med, Sept 15, 1984, 13(3):1900. Vaccines: The Weird, The Wild and The Hilarious Citations: Sometimes there are articles published about the strangest facts related to vaccines that defies our imagination and ability to understand them. They were written seriously by well-meaning scientific persons, but their titles can be seen differently. Some are funny, some are sad and some are purely scientific folly. See if you can figure these out:
Pathel, JC, et al, “Tetanus Following Vaccination Against Small-pox”, J Pediatr, Jul 1960; 27:251-263. [Now you need a tetanus vaccination!]
Favez, G, “Tuberculous Superinfection Following a Smallpox Re-Vaccination”, Praxis, July 21, 1960; 49:698-699. [Super means large/big/great!]
Bonifacio, A et al, “Traffic Accidents as an expression of “Iatrogenic damage”, Minerva Med, Feb 24, 1971, 62:735-740. [But officer I was just vaccinated!]
Baker, J et al, “Accidental Vaccinia: Primary Inoculation of a Scrotum”, Clin Pediatr (Phila), Apr 1972, 11:244-245. [Ooops, the needle slipped.]
Edwards, K, “Danger of Sunburn Following Vaccination”, Papua New Guinea Med J, Dec 1977, 20(4):203. [Are vaccines phototoxic?]
Stroder, J, “Incorrect Therapy in Children”, Folia Clin Int (Barc), Feb 1966, 16:82-90. [Agreed.]
Wehrle PF, “Injury associated with the use of vaccines,” Clin Ther 1985;7(3):282-284. [Dah!]
Alberts ME, “When and where will it stop”, Iowa Med 1986 Sep; 76(9):424. [When!]
Breiman RF, Zanca JA, “Of floors and ceilings — defining, assuring, and communicating vaccine safety”, Am J Public Health 1997 Dec;87(12):1919-1920. [What is in between floors and ceilings?]
Stewart, AM, et al, “Aetiology of Childhood Leukaemia”, Lancet, 16 Oct, 1965, 2:789-790.
Nelson, ST, “John Hutchinson On Vaccination Syphilis (Hutchinson, J)”, Arch Derm, (Chic), May 1969, 99:529-535. [Vaccinations and STDs!]
Mather, C, “Cotton Mather Anguishes Over the Consequences of His Son’s Inoculation Against Smallpox”, Pediatrics, May 1974; 53:756. [Is it for or against?]
Thoman M, “The Toxic Shot Syndrome”, Vet Hum Toxicol, Apr 1986, 28(2):163-166. [Animals are not exempt from vaccination damage either!]
Johnson, RH, et al, “Nosocomial Vaccinia Infection”, West J Med, Oct 1976, 125(4):266-270. [Nosocomial means a disease acquired in a doctor's office or hospital.]
Heed, JR, “Human Immunization With Rabies Vaccine in Suckling Mice Brain,” Salud Publica, May-Jun 1974, 16(3): 469-480. [Have you had your suckling mice brains today?]
Tesovic, G et al, “Aseptic Meningitis after Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccine”, Lancet, Jun 12, 1993, 341(8859):1541. [AM has same symptoms as poliomyelitis!]
Buddle, BM et al, “Contagious Ecthyma Virus-Vaccination Failures”, Am J Vet Research, Feb 1984, 45(2):263-266.
Freter, R et al, “Oral Immunization And Production of Coproantibody in Human Volunteers”, J Immunol, Dec 1963, 91:724-729. [Guess what copro- means .... Feces.]
NA, “Vaccination, For and Against”, 1964, Belg T Geneesk, 20:125-130. [Is it for or against?]
Sahadevan, MG et al, “Post-vaccinal Myelitis”, J Indian Med Ass, Feb 16, 1966, 46:205-206. [Did I mention myelitis?]
Castan, P et al, “Coma Revealing an acute Leukosis in a child, 15 days after an Oral Anti-poliomyelitis Vaccination,” Acta Neurol Bekg, May 1965, 65:349-367. [Coma from vaccines!]
Stickl, H, et al, “Purulent [pus] meningitides Following Smallpox Vaccination. On the Problem of Post- Vaccinal Decrease of Resistance”, Deutsch Med Wschr, Jul 22, 1966, 91:1307-1310. [Vaccines are the injection of viruses cultured from pus ... ]
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Bichel, “Post-vaccinial Lymphadenitis Developing into Hodgkin’s Disease”, Acta Med Scand, 1976, Vol 199, p523-525.
Stewart, AM, et al, “Aetiology of Childhood Leukaemia”, Lancet, 16 Oct, 1965, 2:789-790. [Listed under Vaccine Adverse Reactions.]
Glathe, H et al, “Evidence of Tumorigenic Activity of Candidate Cell Substrate in Vaccine Production by the Use of Anti-Lymphocyte Serum”, Development Biol Std, 1977, 34:145-148.
Bolognesi, DP, “Potential Leukemia Virus Subunit Vaccines: Discussion”, Can Research, Feb 1976, 36(2 pt 2):655-656.
Colon, VF, et al, “Vaccinia Necrosum as a Clue to Lymphatic Lymphoma”, Geriatrics, Dec 1968, 23:81-82.
Park-Dincsoy, H et al, “Lymphoid Depletion in a case of Vaccinia Gangrenosa”, Laval Med, Jan 1968, 39:24-26.
Hugoson, G et al, “The Occurrence of Bovine Leukosis Following the Introduction of Babesiosis Vaccination”, Bibl Haemat, 1968, 30:157-161.
Hartstock, , “”Post-vaccinial Lymphadenitis: Hyperplasia of Lymphoid Tissue That Simulates Malignant Lymphomas”, Apr 1968, Cancer, 21(4):632-649.
Allerberger, F, “An Outbreak of Suppurative Lymphadenitis Connected with BCG Vaccination in Austria- 1990/1991,” Am Rev Respir Disorder, Aug 1991, 144(2) 469.
Omokoku B, Castells S, “Post-DPT inoculation cervical lymphadenitis in children.” N Y State J Med 1981 Oct;81(11):1667-1668. Vaccines and Chromosome Changes Leading to Mutations:
Knuutila, S et al, “An Increased Frequency of Chromosomal Changes and SCE’s in Cultured Lymphocytes of 12 Subjects Vaccinated Against Smallpox,” Hum Genet, 1978 Feb 23; 41(1):89-96.
Cherkeziia, SE, et al, “Disorders in the Murine Chromosome Apparatus Induced By Immunization with a Complex of Anti-viral Vaccines,” Vopr Virusol, 1979 Sept Oct, (5):547-550.
[Note: SCE means sister chromatid exchange and is an indication that genetic mutations are occurring, which could possibly lead to cancer-causing mutations. Vaccines and Auto-immunity Citations:
Romanov, V A, et al, "Role of Auto-immune Processes in the Pathogenesis of Post-Vaccinal Lesions of the Nervous System", Oct 1977, Zh Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol, 10:80-83.
Grachev, V P, et al, "Formation of Auto-antibodies in Laboratory Animals After Inoculation of Viruses With Different Virulence. I. Results of Studies ..., July 1973, Acta Virol (Praha), 17:319-326.
Movsesiants, AA, et al, "Experimental Study of the Ability of Different Strains of Vaccinia Virus to Induce Auto-Antibody Formation", Vopr Virusol, May-Jun 1975; (3):297-302.
Negina, IuP, "Comparative Study of Auto-antibody Formation Following Immunization With Different Types of Typhoid Vaccines", Zh Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol, May 1980; (5):69-72. Vaccinations and Diabetes Citations:
Sinaniotis, et al, "Diabetes Mellitus after Mumps Vaccination", Arc Dis Child, 1975, 50:749.66
Polster, H, "Diabetes insipidus after Smallpox vaccination", Z Aerztl Fortbild (Jena), 1 Apr 1966, 60:429-432.
Patan, "Postvaccinal Severe Diabetes Mellitus", Ter Arkh, Jul 1968, 40:117-118.
Classen, JB, MD, "The Timing of Immunization Affects The Development of Diabetes in Rodents", Autoimmunity, 1996, 24:137-145.
Classen JB, "The diabetes epidemic and the hepatitis B vaccines," N Z Med J, 109(1030):366 1996 Sep 27. [letter]
Classen JB, “Childhood immunisation and diabetes mellitus,” N Z Med J, 109(1022):195 1996 May 24 [letter]
Poutasi K, ” Immunisation and diabetes,” N Z Med J 1996 Jul 26;109(1026):283. [letter; comment] Other Articles Linking Diabetes to Vaccines:
Dokheel, T M, “An Epidemic of Childhood Diabetes in the United States? Evidence from ….”, Diabetes Care, 1993, 16:1606-1611.
Parent ME, et al, “Bacille Calmette-Guerin vaccination and incidence of IDDM in Montreal, Canada,” Diabetes Care 1997 May; 20(5):767-772.
House DV, Winter WE, “Autoimmune diabetes. The role of auto-antibody markers in the prediction and prevention of insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus,” Clin Lab Med 1997 Sep; 17(3):499-545.
Zeigler, M et al , “[Autoantibodies in type 1 diabetes mellitus]” Z Arztl Fortbild (Jena). 1994 Aug; 88(7-8):561-5 Vaccines and Nervous System Changes:
Bondarev, VN et al, “The Changes of the Nervous System in Children After Vaccination”, Pediatria, Jun 1969; 48:20-24.
Ehrengut W, “Central nervous sequelae of vaccinations,” Lancet 1986 May 31;1(8492):1275-1276.
Provvidenza, G et al, [On a Case of Benign Acute Cerebellar Ataxia in Childhood], Arch Ital Sci Med Trop, 43:189-194, Apr 1962.
Katsilambros, L, “[The Phenomenom of Apathy in Man and Animals After the Injection of Viruses in Very High Doses. Clinical Data]“, Rev Med Moyen Orient, 20:539-546, Nov – Dec 1963. Vaccinations and Autism Citations:
Eggers, C, “Autistic Syndrome (Kanner) And Vaccinations against Smallpox”, Klin Paediatr, Mar 1976, 188(2):172-180.
Kiln MR, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.” Lancet 1998 May 2;351(9112):1358.
Selway, “MMR vaccination and autism 1998. Medical practitioners need to give more than reassurance.” BMJ 1998 Jun 13;316(7147):1824.
Nicoll A, Elliman D, Ross E, “MMR vaccination and autism 1998,” MJ 1998 Mar 7;316(7133):715-716.
Lindley K J, Milla PJ, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.”Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907-908.
Bedford H, et al, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.” Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907.
Vijendra K. Singh, Sheren X. Lin, and Victor C. Yang, “Serological Association of Measles Virus and Human Herpesvirus-6 with Brain Autoantibodies in Autism,” Clinical Immunology and Immunopathology, Oct 1998, Vol. 89, No. 1, p 105-108. ["None of the autistic children in the study had measles in the past, but all had the MMR" stated David Whalgren. Vaccines and Demyelination Citations:
Herroelen, L et al, "Central-Nervous-System Demyelination After Immunization with Recombinant Hepatitis B Vaccine", Lancet, Nov 9, 1991, 338(8776):1174-1175.
Kaplanski G, Retornaz F, Durand J, Soubeyrand J, "Central nervous system demyelination after vaccination against hepatitis B and HLA haplotype." J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 1995 Jun; 58(6):758-759.
Matyszak MK, Perry VH, "Demyelination in the central nervous system following a delayed-type hypersensitivity response to bacillus Calmette-Guerin." Neuroscience 1995 Feb;64(4):967-977.
Tornatore CS, Richert JR, "CNS demyelination associated with diploid cell rabies vaccine." Lancet 1990 Jun 2;335(8701):1346-1347.
Adams, JM et al, "Neuromyelitis Optica: Severe Demyelination Occurring Years After Primary Smallpox Vaccinations", Rev Roum Neurol, 1973, 10:227-231.
In 1988, Dietrich used MRI to show that developmentally delayed children had alterations in their myelin. Coulter described that central nervous system damage can be exhibited as abnormal behavior of the child. In 1935, Thomas Rivers, experimental allergic encephalitis (EAE) can be the result of a viral or bacterial infection of the nervous system. "The fact of the matter is that it is a matter of record that it was known that vaccination produced encephalitis since 1926." The authors stated, "In regions in which there is no organized vaccination of the population, general paralysis is rare. ... It is impossible to deny a connection between vaccinations and the encephalitis (brain damage) which follows it." Vaccines have been linked to seizures, convulsions and epilepsy. Vaccinations and Seizures:
Hirtz DG, Nelson KB, Ellenberg J H, "Seizures following childhood immunizations", Pediatr 1983 Jan; 102(1):14-18.
Cherry JD, Holtzman AE, Shields WD, Buch D, Nielsen, "Pertussis immunization and characteristics related to first seizures in infants and children,"J Pediatr 1993 Jun;122(6):900-903.
Coplan J, "Seizures following immunizations," J Pediatr 1983 Sep;103(3):496.
Barkin RM, Jabhour JT, Samuelson J S, "Immunizations, seizures, and subsequent evaluation," JAMA 1987 Jul 10;258(2):201.
Griffin MR, et al, "Risk of seizures after measles-mumps-rubella immunization," Pediatrics 1991 Nov;88(5):881-885.
Griffin MR, et al, "Risk of seizures and encephalopathy after immunization with the diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine," JAMA 1990 Mar 23-30;263(12):1641-1645.
Cizewska S, Huber Z, Sluzewski W, "[Prophylactic inoculations and seizure activity in the EEG],” Neurol Neurochir Pol 1981 Sep-Dec;15(5-6):553-557. [Article in Polish]
Huttenlocher PR, Hapke RJ, “A follow-up study of intractable seizures in childhood.” Ann Neurol 1990 Nov; 28(5):699-705.
Blumberg DA, “Severe reactions associated with diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine: detailed study of children with seizures, hypotonic-hypo-responsive episodes, high fevers, and persistent crying.”Pediatrics 1993 Jun; 91(6):1158-1165. Vaccinations and Convulsions Citations:
Prensky AL, et al, “History of convulsions and use of pertussis vaccine,” J Pediatr 1985 Aug; 107(2):244-255.
Baraff LJ, “Infants and children with convulsions and hypotonic-hypo-responsive episodes following diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis immunization: follow-up evaluation,” Pediatrics 1988 Jun; 81(6):789-794.
Jacobson V, “Relationship of pertussis immunization to the onset of epilepsy, febrile convulsions and central nervous system infections: a retrospective epidemiologic study,” Tokai J Exp Clin Med 1988;13 Suppl: 137-142.
Cupic V,et al, “[Role of DTP vaccine in the convulsive syndromes in children],” Lijec Vjesn 1978 Jun; 100(6):345-348. [Article in Serbo-Croatian (Roman)]
Pokrovskaia NIa, “[Convulsive syndrome in DPT vaccination (a clinico-experimental study)],” Pediatriia 1983 May;(5):37-39. [Article in Russian] Vaccinations and Epilepsy Citations:
Ballerini, Ricci, B, et al, “On Neurological Complications of Vaccination, With Special Reference to Epileptic Syndromes,” Riv Neurol, Jul-Aug 1973, 43:254-258.
Wolf SM, Forsythe A, “Epilepsy and mental retardation following febrile seizures in childhood,” Acta Paediatr Scand 1989 Mar;78(2):291-295. ________________________________________ Vaccines and Brain Swelling:
Iwasa, S et al, “Swelling of the Brain in Mice Caused by Pertussis … Quantitative Determination and the Responsibility of the Vaccine”, Jpn J Med Sci Biol, 1985 , 38(2):53-65.
Mathur R, Kumari S, “Bulging fontanel following triple vaccine.” Indian Pediatr 1981 Jun;18(6):417-418.
Barry W, Lenney W, Hatcher G, “Bulging fontanelles in infants without meningitis.” Arch Dis Child 1989 Apr;64(4):635-636.
Shendurnikar N, “Bulging fontanel following DPT” Indian Pediatr 1986 Nov;23(11):960.
Gross TP, Milstien JB, Kuritsky JN, “Bulging fontanelle after immunization with diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine and diphtheria-tetanus vaccine.” J Pediatr 1989 Mar;114(3):423-425.
Jacob J, Mannino F, “Increased intracranial pressure after diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis immunization.” Am J Dis Child 1979 Feb;133(2):217-218.
Dugmore, WN, “Bilateral Oedema at the Posterior Pole. Hypersensitivity Reaction to Alavac P injection.” Br J Ophthalmol, Dec 1972, 55:848-849. Vaccines and Neurological Damage
Nedar P R, and Warren, R J, “Reported Neurological Disorders Following Live Measles Vaccine”, 1968, Ped, 41:997-1001.
Paradiso, G et al, “Multifocal Demyelinating Neuropathy after Tetanus Vaccine”, Medicina (B Aires), 1990, 50(1):52-54.
Landrigan, PJ, Whitte, J, “Neurologic Disorders Following Live Measles-virus Vaccination”, JAMA, Mar 26, 1973, v223(13):1459-1462.
Turnbull, H M, “Encephalomyelitis Following Vaccination”, Brit Jour Exper Path, 7:181, 1926.
Kulenkampff, M et al, “Neurological Complications of Pertussis Inoculation”, Arch Dis Child, 1974, 49:46.
Strom, J, “Further Experience of Reactions, Especially of a Cerebral Nature in Conjunction with Triple Vaccination”, Brit Med Jour, 1967, 4:320-323.
Berg, J M, “Neurological Complications of Pertussis Immunization,” Brit Med Jour, July 5,1958; p 24.
Bondarev, VN et al, “The Changes of the Nervous System in Children After Vaccination”, Pediatria, Jun 1969; 48:20-24.
Badalian, LO, “Vaccinal Lesions of the Nervous System in Children,” Vop Okhr Materin Dets, Dec 1959, 13:54-59
Lorentz, IT, et al, “Post-Vaccinal Sensory Polyneuropathy with Myoclonus”, Proc Aust Ass Neurol, 1969, 6:81-86.
Trump, R C, White, T R, “Cerebellar Ataxia Presumed Due To Live Attenuated Measles Virus Vaccine,” JAMA, 1967, 199:165-166.
Allerdist, H, “Neurological Complications Following Measles Vaccination”, Inter Symp, Brussels, 1978, Development Biol Std, Vol 43, 259-264.
Finley, K H, “Pathogenesis of Encephalitis Occurring With Vaccination, Variola and Measles, Arch Neur and Psychologist, 1938; 39:1047-1054.
Froissart, M et al, “Acute Meningoencephalitis Immediately after an Influenza Vaccination”, Lille Med, Oct 1978, 23(8):548-551.
Pokrovskaia, Nia, et al, “Neurological Complications in Children From Smallpox Vaccination”, Pediatriia, Dec 1978, (12):45-49.
Allerdist, H, “Neurological Complications Following Measles Virus Vaccination. Evaluation of the Cases seen Between 1971-1977″, Monatsschr Kinderheilkd, Jan 1979, 127(1): 23-28.
Ehrengut, W et al, “On Convulsive Reactions Following Oral vaccination Against Polio”, Klin Paediatr, May 1979, 191(3):261-270.
Naumova, R P, et al, “Encephalitis Developing After Vaccination without a Local Skin Reaction”, Vrach Delo, Jul 1979, (7):114-115.
Goswamy, BM, “Neurological Complications After Smallpox Vaccination”, J Ass Phys India, Jan 1969, 17:41-43.
Schchelkunov, SN et al, “The Role of Viruses in the Induction of Allergic Encephalomyelitis,” Dokl Akad Nauk SSSR, 1990,315(1):252-255. [Vaccines contain viruses, too]
Walker AM, “Neurologic events following diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis immunization,” Pediatrics 1988 Mar;81(3):345-349.
Shields WD, et al, “Relationship of pertussis immunization to the onset of neurologic disorders: a retrospective epidemiologic study,” J Pediatr 1988 Nov; 113(5):801-805.
Wilson J, “Proceedings: Neurological complications of DPT inoculation in infancy,” Arch Dis Child 1973 Oct; 48(10):829-830.
Iakunin IuA, “[Nervous system complications in children after preventive vaccinations],” Pediatriia 1968 Nov; 47(11):19-26. [Article in Russian]
Greco D, et al, “Case-control study on encephalopathy associated with diphtheria-tetanus immunization in Campania, Italy,” Bull World Health Organ 1985;63(5):919-925.
Ehrengut W at Institute of Vaccinology and Virology, Hamburg, Germany states, “Bias in the evaluation of CNS complications following pertussis immunization are the following: 1) Notifications of post-immunization adverse events, 2) Publications by vaccine producers on the frequency of adverse reactions, 3) Comparison of permanent brain damage after DPT and DT immunization, 4) Pro-immunization, 5) Immunization associated viral encephalitis, 6) Accuracy of statistics, 7) Personal. A review of these points indicates an underestimation of CNS complications after pertussis immunization.”
Reference: Ehrengut W, “Bias in evaluating CNS complications following pertussis immunization.” Acta Paediatr Jpn, 1991 Aug; 33(4):421-427. Vaccinations and Unexplained Diseases:
Hiner, E E, Frasch, C E, “Spectrum of Disease Due to Haemophilus Influenza Type B Occurring in Vaccinated Children”, J Infect Disorder, 1988 Aug; 158(2): 343-348.
Olin P, Romanus, V, Storsaeter, J, “Invasive Bacterial Infections During an Efficiacy Trial of Acellular Pertussis Vaccines — Implications For Future Surveilance In Pertussis Vaccine Programmes”, Tokai J Exp Clin Med, 1988; 13 Suppl: 143-144.
Storsaeter, J, et al, “Mortality and Morbidity From Invasive Bacterial Infections During a Clinical Trial of Acellular Pertussis Vaccines in Sweden”, Pediatr Infect Disorder J, 1988 Sept; 7(9):637-645.
Vadheim, CM, et al, “Effectiveness and Safety of an Haemophilus Influenzae type b Conjugate Vaccine (PRP-T) in Young Infants. Kaiser-UCLA Vaccine Study Group,” Pediartics, 1993 Aug; 92(2):272-279. [The vaccines caused fevers, irritability, crying, and seizures, but were declared to be "safe and ... effective ... ".]
Stickl, H, “Estimation of Vaccination Damage”, Med Welt, Oct 14, 1972, 23:1495-1497.
Waters, VV, et al, “Risk Factors for Measles in a Vaccinated Population”, JAMA, Mar 27, 1991, 265(12): 1527.
Stickl, H, “Iatrogenic Immuno-suppression as a Result of Vaccination”, Fortschr Med, Mar 5, 1981, 99(9);289-292. Vaccine Citations Linking the Vaccine to the “prevented” Disease:
Nkowane, et al, “Vaccine-Associated Paralytic Poliomyelitis, US 1973 through 1984, JAMA, 1987, Vol 257:1335-1340.
Quast, et al, “Vaccine Induced Mumps-like Diseases”, nd, Int Symp on Immun, Development Bio Stand, Vol 43, p269-272.
Green, C et al, “A Case of Hepatitis Related to Etretinate Therapy and Hepatitis B Vaccine”, Dermatologica, 1991, 182(2):119-120.
Shasby, DM, et al, “Epidemic Measles in Highly Vaccinated Population”, NEJM, Mar 1977, 296(11): 585-589.
Tesovic, G et al, “Aseptic Meningitis after Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccine”, Lancet, Jun 12, 1993, 341(8859):1541.
Johnson, RH, et al, “Nosocomial Vaccinia Infection”, West J Med, Oct 1976, 125(4):266-270.
Malengreau, M, “Reappearance of Post-Vaccination Infection of Measles, Rubella, and Mumps. Should Adolescents be re-vaccinated?” Pedaitric, 1992;47(9):597-601 (25 ref)
Basa, SN, “Paralytic Poliomyelitis Following Inoculation With Combined DTP Prophylactic. A review of Sixteen cases with Special Reference to Immunization Schedules in Infancy”, J Indian Med Assoc, Feb 1, 1973, 60:97-99.
Landrigan, PJ et al, “Measles in Previously Vaccinated Children in Illinois”, Ill Med J, Arp 1974, 141:367-372.
NA, “Vaccine-Associated Poliomyelitis”, Med J Aust, Oct 1973, 2:795-796. Vaccine Failures Citations:
Hardy, GE, Jr, et al, “The Failure of a School Immunization Campaign to Terminate an Urban Epidemic of Measles,” Amer J Epidem, Mar 1970; 91:286-293.
Cherry, JD, et al, “A Clinical and Serologic Study of 103 Children With Measles Vaccine Failure”, J Pediatr, May 1973; 82:801-808.
Jilg, W, et al, “Inoculation Failure Following Hepatitis B Vaccination”, Dtsch Med wochenschr, 1990 Oct 12; 115(41):1514-1548.
Plotkin, SA, “Failures of Protection by Measles Vaccine,” J Pediatr, May 1973; 82:798-801.
Bolotovskii, V, et al, “Measles Incidence Among Children Properly Vaccinated Against This Infection”, ZH Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol, 1974; 00(5):32-35.
Landrigan, PJ, et al, “Measles in Previously Vaccinated Children in Illinois”, Ill Med J, Apr 1974; 141:367-372.
Strebel, P et al, “An Outbreak of Whooping Cough in a Highly Vaccinated Urban Community”, J Trop Pediatr, Mar 1991, 37(2): 71-76.
Forrest, JM, et al, “Failure of Rubella Vaccination to Prevent Congenital Rubella,”Med J Aust, 1977 Jan 15; 1(3): 77.
Jilg, W, “Unsuccessful Vaccination against Hepatitis B”, Dtsch Med Wochenschr, Nov 16, 1990, 115(46):1773.
Coles, FB, et al, “An Outbreak of Influenza A (H3N2) in a Well-Immunized Nursing home Population,” J Am ger Sociologist, Jun 1992, 40(6):589-592.
Jilg, W, et al, “Inoculation Failure following Hepatitis B Vaccination,” Dtsch Med Wochenschr, Oct 12, 1990, 115(41):1545-1548.
Hartmann, G et al, “Unsuccessful Inoculation against Hepatitis B,” Dtsch Med Wochenschr, May 17, 1991, 116(20): 797.
Buddle, BM et al, “Contagious Ecthyma Virus-Vaccination Failures”, Am J Vet Research, Feb 1984, 45(2):263-266.
Mathias, R G, “Whooping Cough In Spite of Immunization”, Can J Pub Health, 1978 Mar/Apr; 69(2):130-132.
Osterholm, MT, et al, “Lack of Efficacy of Haemophilus b Polysacharide Vaccine in Minnesota”, JAMA, 1988 Sept 9; 260(10:1423-1428.
Johnson, RH, et al, “Nosocomial Vaccinia Infection”, West J Med, Oct 1976, 125(4):266-270. Vaccines Causing Another Vaccinal Disease:
Basa, SN, “Paralytic Poliomyelitis Following Inoculation With Combined DTP Prophylactic. A review of Sixteen cases with Special Reference to Immunization Schedules in Infancy”, J Indian Med Assoc, Feb 1, 1973, 60:97-99.
Pathel, JC, et al, “Tetanus Following Vaccination Against Small-pox”, J Pediatr, Jul 1960; 27:251-263.
Favez, G, “Tuberculous Superinfection Following a Smallpox Re-Vaccination”, Praxis, July 21, 1960; 49:698-699.
Quast, Ute, and Hennessen, “Vaccine-Induced Mumps-like Diseases”, Intern Symp on Immunizations , Development Bio Stand, Vol 43, p 269-272.
Forrest, J M, et al, “Clinical Rubella Eleven months after Vaccination,” Lancet, Aug 26, 1972, 2:399-400.
Dittman, S, “Atypical Measles after Vaccination”, Beitr Hyg Epidemiol, 19891, 25:1-274 (939 ref)
Sen S, et al, “Poliomyelitis in Vaccinated Children”, Indian Pediatr, May 1989, 26(5): 423-429.
Arya, SC, “Putative Failure of Recombinant DNA Hepatitis B Vaccines”, Vaccine, Apr 1989, 7(2): 164-165.
Lawrence, R et al, “The Risk of Zoster after Varicella Vaccination in Children with Leukemia”, NEJM, Mar 3, 1988, 318(9): 543-548. Vaccination Citations and Death
Na, “DPT Vaccination and Sudden Infant Death – Tennessee, US Dept HEW, MMWR Report, Mar 23, 1979, vol 28(11): 132.
Arevalo, “Vaccinia Necrosum. Report on a Fatal Case”, Bol Ofoc Sanit Panamer, Aug 1967, 63:106-110.
Connolly, J H, Dick, G W, Field, CM, “A Case of Fatal Progressive Vaccinia”, Brit Med Jour, 12 May 1962; 5288:1315-1317.
Aragona, F, “Fatal Acute Adrenal Insufficiency Caused by Bilateral Apoplexy of the Adrenal Glands (WFS) following Anti-poliomyelitis Vaccination”, Minerva Medicolegale, Aug 1960; 80:167-173.
Moblus, G et al, “Pathological-Anatomical Findings in Cases of Death Following Poliomyelitis and DPT Vaccination”, Dtsch Gesundheitsw, Jul 20, 1972, 27:1382-1386.
NA, “Immunizations and Cot Deaths”, Lancet, Sept 25, 1982, np.
Goetzeler, A, “Fatal Encephalitis after Poliomyelitis Vaccination”, 22 Jun 1961, Muenchen Med Wschr, 102:1419-1422.
Fulginiti, V, “Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Diphtheria-Tetanus Toxoid-Pertussis Vaccination and Visits to the Doctor: Chance Association or Cause and Effect?”, Pediatr Infect Disorder, Jan-Feb 1983, 2(1): 7-11.
Baraff, LJ, et al, “Possible Temporal Association Between Diphtheria-tetanus toxoid-Pertussis Vaccination and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome”, Pediatr Infect Disorder, Jan-Feb 1983, 2(1): 5-6.
Reynolds, E, “Fatal Outcome of a Case of Eczema Vaccinatum”, Lancet, 24 Sept 1960, 2:684-686.
Apostolov. et al, “Death of an Infant in Hyperthermia After Vaccination”, J Clin Path, Mar 1961, 14:196-197.
Bouvier-Colle, MH, “Sex-Specific Differences in Mortality After High-Titre Measles Vaccination”, Rev Epidemiol Sante Publique, 1995; 43(1): 97.
Stewart GT, “Deaths of infants after triple vaccine.”, Lancet 1979 Aug 18;2(8138):354-355.
Flahault A, “Sudden infant death syndrome and diphtheria/tetanus toxoid/pertussis/poliomyelitis immunisation.”, Lancet 1988 Mar 12;1(8585):582-583.
Larbre, F et al, “Fatal Acute Myocarditis After Smallpox Vaccination”, Pediatrie, Apr-May 1966, 21:345-350.
Mortimer EA Jr, “DTP and SIDS: when data differ”, Am J Public Health 1987 Aug; 77(8):925-926. Vaccines and Metabolism Citations:
Deutsch J, ” [Temperature changes after triple-immunization in infant age],” Padiatr Grenzgeb 1976;15(1):3-6. [Article in German]
NA, “[Temperature changes after triple immunization in childhood],” Padiatr Grenzgeb 1976;15(1):7-10. [Article in German]
[Considering that the thyroid controls our Basal Metabolism, it would appear that vaccines altered (depressed) thyroid activity.] Vaccines Altering Resistance to Disease:
Burmistrova AL, “[Change in the non-specific resistance of the body to influenza and acute respiratory diseases following immunization diphtheria-tetanus vaccine],” Zh Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol 1976; (3):89-91. [Article in Russian] Vaccinations and Deafness Citations: So I did a background check to see if there was any scientific evidence linking vaccines to deafness and hearing loss. Here are some of the articles I found:
Kaga, “Unilateral Total Loss of Auditory and Vestibular Function as a Complication of Mumps Vaccination”, Int J Ped Oto, Feb 1998, 43(1):73-73
Nabe-Nielsen, Walter, “Unilateral Total Deafness as a Complication of the Measles- Mumps- Rubella Vaccination”, Scan Audio Suppl, 1988, 30:69-70
Hulbert, et al, “Bilateral Hearing Loss after Measles and Rubella Vaccination in an Adult”, NEJM, 1991 July, 11;325(2):134
Healy, “Mumps Vaccine and Nerve Deafness”, Am J Disorder Child, 1972 Jun; 123(6):612
Jayarajan, Sedler, “Hearing Loss Following Measles Vaccination”, J Infect, 1995 Mar; 30(2):184-185
Pialoux, P et al, “Vaccinations and Deafness”, Ann Otolaryng (Paris), Dec 1963, 80:1012-1013.
Angerstein, W, et al, “Solitary Hearing and Equilibrium Damage After Vaccinations”, Gesundheitswesen, May 1995, 57(5): 264-268.
Brodsky, Stanievich, “Sensorineural Hearing Loss Following Live Measles Virus Vaccination”, Int J Ped Oto, 1985 Nov; 10(2):159-163
Koga, et al, “Bilateral Acute Profound Deafness After MMR Vaccination- Report of a Case”, Nippon Jibiin Gakkai Kai, 1991 Aug;94(8):1142-5
Seiferth, LB, “Deafness after Oral Poliomyelitis Vaccination – a Case Report and Review”, HNO, 1977 Aug; 25(8): 297-300
Pantazopoulos, PE, “Perceptive Deafness Following Prophylactic use of Tetanus anittoxin”, Laryngoscope, Dec 1965, 75:1832-1836.
Zimmerman, W, “Observation of a case of Acute Bilateral Hearing Impairment Following Preventive Poliomyelitis Vaccination (type 3)”, Arch Ohr Nas Kehlkopfheilk, 1965, 185:723-725. Vaccinations and Kidney Disorders Citations:
Jacquot, C et al, “Renal Risk in Vaccination”, Nouv Presse Med, Nov 6, 1982, 11(44):3237-3238.
Giudicelli, et al, “Renal Risk in Vaccination”, Presse Med, Jun 11, 1982, 12(25):1587-1590.
Tan, SY, et al, “Vaccine Related Glomerulonephritis”, BMJ, Jan 23, 1993, 306(6872):248.
Pillai, JJ, et al, “Renal Involvement in Association with Post-vaccination Varicella”, Clin Infect Disorder, Dec 1993, 17(6): 1079-1080.
Eisinger, AJ et al, “Acute Renal Failure after TAB and Cholera Vaccination”, B Med J, Feb 10, 1979, 1(6160):381-382.
Silina, ZM, et al, “Causes of Postvaccinal Complications in the Kidneys in Young Infants”, Pediatria, Dec 1978, (12):59-61.
Na, “Albuminurias”, Concours Med, Mar 1964, 85:5095-5098. [vaccination adverse reactions]
Oyrl, A, et al, “Can Vaccinations Harm the Kidney?”, Clin Nephrol, 1975, 3(5):204-205.
Mel’man Nia, “[Renal lesions after use of vaccines and sera].” Vrach Delo 1978 Oct;(10):67-9, [Article in Russian]
Silina ZM, Galaktionova TIa, Shabunina NR, “[Causes of postvaccinal complications in the kidneys in young infants].” Pediatriia 1978 Dec;(12):59-61, [Article in Russian]
Silina EM, et al, “[Some diseases of the kidneys in children during the 1st year of life, following primary smallpox vaccination and administration of pertusis-diphtheria-tetanus vaccine].” Vopr Okhr Materin Det 1968 Mar; 13(3):79-80, [Article in Russian] Vaccines and Skin Disorders Citations:
Illingsworth R, Skin rashes after triple vaccine,” Arch Dis Child 1987 Sep; 62(9):979.
Lupton GP, “Discoid lupus erythematosus occurring in a smallpox vaccination scar,” J Am Acad Dermatol, 1987 Oct; 17(4):688-690.
Kompier, A J, “Some Skin Diseases caused by Vaccinia Virus [Smallpox],” Ned Milt Geneesk T, 15:149-157, May 1962.
Weber, G et al, “Skin Lesions Following Vaccinations,” Deutsch Med Wschr, 88:1878-1886, S7 Sept 1963.
Copeman, P W, “Skin Complications of Smallpox Vaccination,” Practitioner, 197:793-800, Dec 1966.
Denning, DW, et al, “Skin Rashes After Triple Vaccine,” Arch Disorder Child, May 1987, 62(5): 510-511. Vaccinations and Abcesses:
Sterler, HC, et al, “Outbreaks of Group A Steptococcal Abcesses Following DTP Vaccination”, Pediatrics, Feb 1985, 75(2):299-303.
DiPiramo, D, et al, “Abcess Formation at the Site of Inoculation of Calmette-Guerin Bacillus (BCG),” Riv Med Aeronaut Spaz, Jul-Dec 1981, 46(3-4):190-199. Vaccinations and Shock:
Caileba, A et al, “Shock associated with Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation Syndrome following Injection of DT.TAB Vaccine, Prese Med, Sept 15, 1984, 13(3):1900. Vaccines: The Weird, The Wild and The Hilarious Citations: Sometimes there are articles published about the strangest facts related to vaccines that defies our imagination and ability to understand them. They were written seriously by well-meaning scientific persons, but their titles can be seen differently. Some are funny, some are sad and some are purely scientific folly. See if you can figure these out:
Pathel, JC, et al, “Tetanus Following Vaccination Against Small-pox”, J Pediatr, Jul 1960; 27:251-263. [Now you need a tetanus vaccination!]
Favez, G, “Tuberculous Superinfection Following a Smallpox Re-Vaccination”, Praxis, July 21, 1960; 49:698-699. [Super means large/big/great!]
Bonifacio, A et al, “Traffic Accidents as an expression of “Iatrogenic damage”, Minerva Med, Feb 24, 1971, 62:735-740. [But officer I was just vaccinated!]
Baker, J et al, “Accidental Vaccinia: Primary Inoculation of a Scrotum”, Clin Pediatr (Phila), Apr 1972, 11:244-245. [Ooops, the needle slipped.]
Edwards, K, “Danger of Sunburn Following Vaccination”, Papua New Guinea Med J, Dec 1977, 20(4):203. [Are vaccines phototoxic?]
Stroder, J, “Incorrect Therapy in Children”, Folia Clin Int (Barc), Feb 1966, 16:82-90. [Agreed.]
Wehrle PF, “Injury associated with the use of vaccines,” Clin Ther 1985;7(3):282-284. [Dah!]
Alberts ME, “When and where will it stop”, Iowa Med 1986 Sep; 76(9):424. [When!]
Breiman RF, Zanca JA, “Of floors and ceilings — defining, assuring, and communicating vaccine safety”, Am J Public Health 1997 Dec;87(12):1919-1920. [What is in between floors and ceilings?]
Stewart, AM, et al, “Aetiology of Childhood Leukaemia”, Lancet, 16 Oct, 1965, 2:789-790.
Nelson, ST, “John Hutchinson On Vaccination Syphilis (Hutchinson, J)”, Arch Derm, (Chic), May 1969, 99:529-535. [Vaccinations and STDs!]
Mather, C, “Cotton Mather Anguishes Over the Consequences of His Son’s Inoculation Against Smallpox”, Pediatrics, May 1974; 53:756. [Is it for or against?]
Thoman M, “The Toxic Shot Syndrome”, Vet Hum Toxicol, Apr 1986, 28(2):163-166. [Animals are not exempt from vaccination damage either!]
Johnson, RH, et al, “Nosocomial Vaccinia Infection”, West J Med, Oct 1976, 125(4):266-270. [Nosocomial means a disease acquired in a doctor's office or hospital.]
Heed, JR, “Human Immunization With Rabies Vaccine in Suckling Mice Brain,” Salud Publica, May-Jun 1974, 16(3): 469-480. [Have you had your suckling mice brains today?]
Tesovic, G et al, “Aseptic Meningitis after Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccine”, Lancet, Jun 12, 1993, 341(8859):1541. [AM has same symptoms as poliomyelitis!]
Buddle, BM et al, “Contagious Ecthyma Virus-Vaccination Failures”, Am J Vet Research, Feb 1984, 45(2):263-266.
Freter, R et al, “Oral Immunization And Production of Coproantibody in Human Volunteers”, J Immunol, Dec 1963, 91:724-729. [Guess what copro- means .... Feces.]
NA, “Vaccination, For and Against”, 1964, Belg T Geneesk, 20:125-130. [Is it for or against?]
Sahadevan, MG et al, “Post-vaccinal Myelitis”, J Indian Med Ass, Feb 16, 1966, 46:205-206. [Did I mention myelitis?]
Castan, P et al, “Coma Revealing an acute Leukosis in a child, 15 days after an Oral Anti-poliomyelitis Vaccination,” Acta Neurol Bekg, May 1965, 65:349-367. [Coma from vaccines!]
Stickl, H, et al, “Purulent [pus] meningitides Following Smallpox Vaccination. On the Problem of Post- Vaccinal Decrease of Resistance”, Deutsch Med Wschr, Jul 22, 1966, 91:1307-1310. [Vaccines are the injection of viruses cultured from pus ... ]
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Vaccine companies PAY researchers to state vaccines are safe SO DO TERRORISTS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqYgB_PQk…
Harvard Medical School in Ethics Quandary
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/busine…
Aluminum adjuvant linked to gulf war illness induces motor neuron
http://www.springerlink.com/content/x457…
Vaccine overview: Basic information on M59 Squalene Vaccine
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqYgB_PQk…
Harvard Medical School in Ethics Quandary
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/busine…
Aluminum adjuvant linked to gulf war illness induces motor neuron
http://www.springerlink.com/content/x457…
Vaccine overview: Basic information on M59 Squalene Vaccine
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?…
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On a serious note just the other day I took my daughter to the pediatrician and was reading a pamphlet for parents considering vaccinations for their child. Every page was a picture of children suffering from a variety of diseases such as measles and mumps with a brief summery of what these ailments do to a child. A parent who does not vaccinate their child is a sick fuck.
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Don't give up. You CAN win with these people, and in fact we ARE winning with these people, and more to the point, with their kids. Right on.
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@20
I know it's stupid to stoop to the levels of insane trolls, but this one really gets to me. Your insinuation that autism researchers are 'quack doctors' is downright false (and, frankly, extremely insulting). I'm a biologist. In fact, I'm a biologist who studies human disease. I work with, and know personally, many students, fellows, and faculty that devote their lives to the study of the biology of autism on a daily basis. These people are not remotely 'quacks' or 'in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies' as you claim. These are researchers, just like any other, who are devoted to understanding the underlying causes of autism, wherever the evidence might lead, in order to find real solutions to the problem of autism. And none of them, not a single one, will tell you that there is a link between autism and vaccines because there is simply not a shred of evidence to support that hypothesis.
I know it's stupid to stoop to the levels of insane trolls, but this one really gets to me. Your insinuation that autism researchers are 'quack doctors' is downright false (and, frankly, extremely insulting). I'm a biologist. In fact, I'm a biologist who studies human disease. I work with, and know personally, many students, fellows, and faculty that devote their lives to the study of the biology of autism on a daily basis. These people are not remotely 'quacks' or 'in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies' as you claim. These are researchers, just like any other, who are devoted to understanding the underlying causes of autism, wherever the evidence might lead, in order to find real solutions to the problem of autism. And none of them, not a single one, will tell you that there is a link between autism and vaccines because there is simply not a shred of evidence to support that hypothesis.
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Spindles-You are avoiding the elephant in the room, how can we blame the Jews for the power of the vaccine industrial complex?
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To Gates' credit, Microsoft is one of only two companies in WA state with a health insurance plan that reimburses therapy for autistic children.
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Right on Goldy! This can't get enough attention.
And, by the way, the increase in diagnosis of autism over recent years is due to the increase in the spectrum. I'd be diagnosed asburgers for sure if I were a kid today. I wasn't in the early 80's because I was high functioning and the diagnosis hadn't expanded. Steven Novella at the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, Neurologica and NESS has great information on the increased diagnostics on autism if you look for it. He's a Neurologist at Yale.
And, by the way, the increase in diagnosis of autism over recent years is due to the increase in the spectrum. I'd be diagnosed asburgers for sure if I were a kid today. I wasn't in the early 80's because I was high functioning and the diagnosis hadn't expanded. Steven Novella at the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, Neurologica and NESS has great information on the increased diagnostics on autism if you look for it. He's a Neurologist at Yale.
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@33: That's hardly been proven. Your assertion as fact that the increase in autism diagnoses in recent decades is purely coincident with an expanded definition of the disorder is bogus.
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There's been a marked increase in me getting blowjobs in the last 20 years, that must be causing autism too.
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I'll see your cut and paste and I'll raise you these!
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/health…
These studies found that subtle symptoms of autism are present earlier than some parents had suspected, and that receipt of the MMR vaccine did not precede the first symptoms of autism.
Adrien, J., et al. Blind ratings of early symptoms of autism based upon family home movies. J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry 32:617-626, 1993.
Adrien, J., et al. Early symptoms in autism from family home movies: evaluation and comparison between 1st and 2nd year of life using I.B.S.E. scale. Acta Paedopsychiatrica 55:71-75, 1992.
Adrien, J., et al. Autism and family home movies: preliminary findings. J Autism Devel Disorders 21:43-49, 1991.
Osterling, J., et al. Early recognition of children with autism: a study of first birthday home videotapes. J Autism Devel Disorders 24:247-257, 1994.
Mars, A.E., et al. Symptoms of pervasive developmental disorders as observed in prediagnostic home videos of infants and toddlers. J Pediatr 132:500-504, 1998.
Evidence that autism occurs in utero
Toxic or viral insults in utero as well as certain central nervous system disorders are associated with an increase in the incidence of autism. For example, children exposed to thalidomide during the first or early second trimester were found to have an increased incidence of autism. However, autism occurred in children with ear, but not arm or leg, abnormalities. Because arms and legs develop after 24 weeks gestation, the risk period for autism following receipt of thalidomide must be before 24 weeks gestation. In support of this finding, Rodier and colleagues found evidence for structural brainstem abnormalities in children with autism. These abnormalities could only have occurred during brainstem development in utero.
Similarly, children with congenital rubella syndrome are at increased risk for development of autism. Risk is associated with exposure to rubella prenatally, but not postnatally.
Feldman, R.B., R. Lajoie, J. Mendelson, and L. Pinsky. Congenital rubella and language disorders. Lancet 2:978, 1971.
Feldman, R.B., L. Pinsky, J. Mendelson, and R. Lajoie. Can language disorder not due to peripheral deafness be an isolated expression of prenatal rubella? Pediatrics 52:296-299, 1973.
Swisher, C.N., and L. Swisher. Congenital rubella and autistic behavior. N Engl J Med 293:198, 1975.
Lubinsky, M. Behavioral consequences of congenital rubella. J Pediatr 94:678-679, 1979.
Deykin, E.Y., and B. MacMahon. Viral exposure and autism. Am J Epidemiol 109:628-638, 1979.
Chess, S., P. Fernandez, and S. Korn. Behavioral consequences of congenital rubella. J Pediatr 93:699-703, 1978.
Chess, S. Autism in children with congenital rubella. J Autism Child Schizo 1:33-47, 1971.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/7163…
The CDC,[63] the IOM of the National Academy of Sciences,[53] and the UK National Health Service[64] have all concluded that there is no evidence of a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/health…
These studies found that subtle symptoms of autism are present earlier than some parents had suspected, and that receipt of the MMR vaccine did not precede the first symptoms of autism.
Adrien, J., et al. Blind ratings of early symptoms of autism based upon family home movies. J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry 32:617-626, 1993.
Adrien, J., et al. Early symptoms in autism from family home movies: evaluation and comparison between 1st and 2nd year of life using I.B.S.E. scale. Acta Paedopsychiatrica 55:71-75, 1992.
Adrien, J., et al. Autism and family home movies: preliminary findings. J Autism Devel Disorders 21:43-49, 1991.
Osterling, J., et al. Early recognition of children with autism: a study of first birthday home videotapes. J Autism Devel Disorders 24:247-257, 1994.
Mars, A.E., et al. Symptoms of pervasive developmental disorders as observed in prediagnostic home videos of infants and toddlers. J Pediatr 132:500-504, 1998.
Evidence that autism occurs in utero
Toxic or viral insults in utero as well as certain central nervous system disorders are associated with an increase in the incidence of autism. For example, children exposed to thalidomide during the first or early second trimester were found to have an increased incidence of autism. However, autism occurred in children with ear, but not arm or leg, abnormalities. Because arms and legs develop after 24 weeks gestation, the risk period for autism following receipt of thalidomide must be before 24 weeks gestation. In support of this finding, Rodier and colleagues found evidence for structural brainstem abnormalities in children with autism. These abnormalities could only have occurred during brainstem development in utero.
Similarly, children with congenital rubella syndrome are at increased risk for development of autism. Risk is associated with exposure to rubella prenatally, but not postnatally.
Feldman, R.B., R. Lajoie, J. Mendelson, and L. Pinsky. Congenital rubella and language disorders. Lancet 2:978, 1971.
Feldman, R.B., L. Pinsky, J. Mendelson, and R. Lajoie. Can language disorder not due to peripheral deafness be an isolated expression of prenatal rubella? Pediatrics 52:296-299, 1973.
Swisher, C.N., and L. Swisher. Congenital rubella and autistic behavior. N Engl J Med 293:198, 1975.
Lubinsky, M. Behavioral consequences of congenital rubella. J Pediatr 94:678-679, 1979.
Deykin, E.Y., and B. MacMahon. Viral exposure and autism. Am J Epidemiol 109:628-638, 1979.
Chess, S., P. Fernandez, and S. Korn. Behavioral consequences of congenital rubella. J Pediatr 93:699-703, 1978.
Chess, S. Autism in children with congenital rubella. J Autism Child Schizo 1:33-47, 1971.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/7163…
The CDC,[63] the IOM of the National Academy of Sciences,[53] and the UK National Health Service[64] have all concluded that there is no evidence of a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.
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Autism Cases on the Rise; Reason for Increase a Mystery
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/search…
I guess it will just stay a mystery forever.
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/search…
I guess it will just stay a mystery forever.
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Why would the pharmaceutical industry collude to make a little bit of money off vaccinations when they could make so much more money selling placebos to sick children?
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25---this is what we in the the trade call bibliography salad. If you feel the need to cite studies that are FORTY years old (!) you don't have a real good grip on your research.
Just sayin.'
Just sayin.'
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@33 That is not the case. Autism rates, and this is serious autism that renders children seriously disabled, have been skyrocketing. The fact cannot be ignored no matter how much you hate hippies and health nuts. It isn't caused by vaccines, but it is most likely caused by industrial pollutants in the environment.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl…
I know I'm going to be dismissed as a conspiracy theorist for writing this, but here we go. Do you really think that in a nation like this one, the government would go against the interests of corporations and publish honestly the effects of pollution on the people? That would mean we need environmental protections. If we didn't live in a country owned and operated by and for polluters, what industrial toxins like mercury and dioxins are doing to us would be front page news.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl…
I know I'm going to be dismissed as a conspiracy theorist for writing this, but here we go. Do you really think that in a nation like this one, the government would go against the interests of corporations and publish honestly the effects of pollution on the people? That would mean we need environmental protections. If we didn't live in a country owned and operated by and for polluters, what industrial toxins like mercury and dioxins are doing to us would be front page news.
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@45:
Because the naturopathic community already has that covered.
Seriously, modern medical science has had it's problems in the past but those problems are, as often as not, exposed by scientists.
And if you have any question about the ability of science to promote health, remember that it is the sole reason we live as long as we do. Natural medicine was around thousands of years ago, religious healing was around thousands of years ago. Neither has changed all that much. What HAS changed is that people discovered scientific thinking and were able to develop vaccines and drugs, period. Many of us are alive today thanks to them.
This coming from a guy who was actually allergic to one of his early life vaccinations. If you want to complain about vaccines, complain about that...to scientists that can actually do something about it.
Because the naturopathic community already has that covered.
Seriously, modern medical science has had it's problems in the past but those problems are, as often as not, exposed by scientists.
And if you have any question about the ability of science to promote health, remember that it is the sole reason we live as long as we do. Natural medicine was around thousands of years ago, religious healing was around thousands of years ago. Neither has changed all that much. What HAS changed is that people discovered scientific thinking and were able to develop vaccines and drugs, period. Many of us are alive today thanks to them.
This coming from a guy who was actually allergic to one of his early life vaccinations. If you want to complain about vaccines, complain about that...to scientists that can actually do something about it.
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@33, I don't think you're a conspiracy theorist. I think you're an environmentalist looking for something new to blame on chemical pollution and making a wild correlation.
This whole thing is a problem with people not understanding that coincidences exist. Not everything is connected the way it seems to be in your head.
This whole thing is a problem with people not understanding that coincidences exist. Not everything is connected the way it seems to be in your head.
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@48
Which is why the water we drink and the air we breath is so dirty compared to 50 years ago...
oh wait...
Now tell us about how 9-11 was an inside job...
Which is why the water we drink and the air we breath is so dirty compared to 50 years ago...
oh wait...
Now tell us about how 9-11 was an inside job...
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Spindles, do you have ANY idea how many people smallpox killed every year before vaccines were invented?
Do you have any idea just how many people died of the flu in 1918? And how few die nowadays thanks to vaccines?
Do you know how much longer and how much healthier we all live now as compared to people a century ago?
Antibiotics and vaccines are the cheapest, most effective defenses we have ever created against bacteria and viruses, respectively.
Your list of ancient articles was hilarious - (oh no, they looked at antibodies in FECES! Yup, we do secrete antibodies into our gut to protect us from viruses in our food, so it's an easy place to see what antibodies somebody was making) And you DO know that Vaccinia is a poxvirus, not a vaccine, right?
Let me guess - you think fluoride in our water supply is a Communist plot, too?
Please get psychiatric help. Your paranoia seems limitless. You seem like someone who would benefit from having MORE chemicals in their bloodstream.
Do you have any idea just how many people died of the flu in 1918? And how few die nowadays thanks to vaccines?
Do you know how much longer and how much healthier we all live now as compared to people a century ago?
Antibiotics and vaccines are the cheapest, most effective defenses we have ever created against bacteria and viruses, respectively.
Your list of ancient articles was hilarious - (oh no, they looked at antibodies in FECES! Yup, we do secrete antibodies into our gut to protect us from viruses in our food, so it's an easy place to see what antibodies somebody was making) And you DO know that Vaccinia is a poxvirus, not a vaccine, right?
Let me guess - you think fluoride in our water supply is a Communist plot, too?
Please get psychiatric help. Your paranoia seems limitless. You seem like someone who would benefit from having MORE chemicals in their bloodstream.
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@25: That is cuntpasted more or less directly from www.thinktwice.com, a website that is openly and unabashedly against any form of vaccination. Nice try.
Spindles, if you stopped worrying about Big Pharma just a little bit, just enough to take your fucking meds, your quality of life (and the quality of life of those poor souls who have to deal with you) would skyrocket.
Spindles, if you stopped worrying about Big Pharma just a little bit, just enough to take your fucking meds, your quality of life (and the quality of life of those poor souls who have to deal with you) would skyrocket.
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@52 You obviously didn't read my link so here's some more.
"Children with autism disorders in the San Francisco Bay Area were 50% more likely to be born in neighborhoods with high amounts of several toxic air contaminants, particularly mercury" -California Department of Health Services
"Research supported by NIEH has clearly shown that it is not just genetics that causes neuro-developmental disorders such as autism but rather the interplay of both genes and the environment". Dr. Linda Birnbaum, Director of the National Institute of Environmental Health
Tell me how Global Warming is a myth.
"Children with autism disorders in the San Francisco Bay Area were 50% more likely to be born in neighborhoods with high amounts of several toxic air contaminants, particularly mercury" -California Department of Health Services
"Research supported by NIEH has clearly shown that it is not just genetics that causes neuro-developmental disorders such as autism but rather the interplay of both genes and the environment". Dr. Linda Birnbaum, Director of the National Institute of Environmental Health
Tell me how Global Warming is a myth.
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Autism rates have not been "skyrocketing". When my daughter was diagnosed 43 years ago, most autistic kids were called mentally retarded, emotional disturbed, or childhood schizophrenics. Doctors hardly knew about autism. They've since learned, and kids are being diagnosed. And I'm not talking about Asperger's, I'm talking about standard Kanner Syndrome autism, the bad stuff. More kids are being DIAGNOSED, not being born with autism.
Spindles and other parents like him will not be convinced because they are devoting their lives to their belief in the vaccine conspiracy. Doesn't matter if 50 researchers are found guilty of fraud. Don't waste your breath trying to talk sense to them, and don't paint all parents of autistic kids/people with the same brush. Some of us do have sense.
Spindles and other parents like him will not be convinced because they are devoting their lives to their belief in the vaccine conspiracy. Doesn't matter if 50 researchers are found guilty of fraud. Don't waste your breath trying to talk sense to them, and don't paint all parents of autistic kids/people with the same brush. Some of us do have sense.
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@44: Spindles, you just linked to WebMD, a company that makes it's money pitching drugs for the pharmaceutical industry.
You are a dumbshit!
You are a dumbshit!
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I think I can summarize Spindles' argument more succinctly, as I am fairly familiar with it:
You know who have sometimes been wrong? SCIENTISTS!!! Therefore the crackpot social meme I've embraced against all the evidence is TRUE, and all that sciencey, controlled study, overwhelming evidence, health researches around the world stuff is just OPINION!
Oh, and don't believe people who tell you otherwise -- they're all Jews.
You know who have sometimes been wrong? SCIENTISTS!!! Therefore the crackpot social meme I've embraced against all the evidence is TRUE, and all that sciencey, controlled study, overwhelming evidence, health researches around the world stuff is just OPINION!
Oh, and don't believe people who tell you otherwise -- they're all Jews.
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Well, Spindles, you stated this: "Bill Gates is a eugenicist and should be scorned for the racist, sterilization programs his tax shelter foundation is running all over the globe."
Since you believe this to be true, and you have no fear of providing links, would you be so kind as to provide us proof of your statement?
Personally, I'm with Goldy.
I will never forgive that Rat-Bastard for Vista....
Since you believe this to be true, and you have no fear of providing links, would you be so kind as to provide us proof of your statement?
Personally, I'm with Goldy.
I will never forgive that Rat-Bastard for Vista....
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To go along with what 58 said, the rates for several other disorders have gone down over time. Particularly the disorders that children with autism used to be classified into when most doctors were unfamiliar with autism and bad at diagnosing it. It's not actually clear that there is any increase in autism rates at all.
However, if there is an increase beyond better diagnosis and a wider spectrum for diagnosis, then it is quite possibly due to the cultural influence that it is easier for people who are mildly on the autistic spectrum (possibly not even diagnosible with Asperger's themselves, but further along the spectrum than average, as it really does seem to be a spectrum of traits) may be more likely to breed with other people who are a bit on the spectrum, causing a greater funneling of those genes to create an increase risk. People with some traits on the spectrum would be likely to be attracted to others also with some traits as they have more in common, and with greater mobility, communication, and later age before breeding people tend to be able to choose a partner from a wider pool rather than just whether or not anyone else in their home town had similar traits. If so, an increase in autism is a small price to pay for greater mobility and communication while living in a free society.
However, if there is an increase beyond better diagnosis and a wider spectrum for diagnosis, then it is quite possibly due to the cultural influence that it is easier for people who are mildly on the autistic spectrum (possibly not even diagnosible with Asperger's themselves, but further along the spectrum than average, as it really does seem to be a spectrum of traits) may be more likely to breed with other people who are a bit on the spectrum, causing a greater funneling of those genes to create an increase risk. People with some traits on the spectrum would be likely to be attracted to others also with some traits as they have more in common, and with greater mobility, communication, and later age before breeding people tend to be able to choose a partner from a wider pool rather than just whether or not anyone else in their home town had similar traits. If so, an increase in autism is a small price to pay for greater mobility and communication while living in a free society.
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I have a theory about autism that is just as plausible. I propose that it is eating that causes autism! Every single child that developed autism had a history of eating food. So if we stop children from eating food all cases of autism would end. We all know that food is but a plot that our government supports with "Big Farm." right?
Well it is equally as valid as the claims made about vaccines. Perhaps those who fear vaccines should stop eating as well, just to be on the safe side.
Well it is equally as valid as the claims made about vaccines. Perhaps those who fear vaccines should stop eating as well, just to be on the safe side.
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@61 and Goldy:
You are spreading misinformation and lies. Bill Gates effectively checked out of Microsoft after the DOJ anti-trust suit, long before the Vista development cycle was in full swing.
Vista is the fault of Steve Ballmer, not Bill Gates.
You are spreading misinformation and lies. Bill Gates effectively checked out of Microsoft after the DOJ anti-trust suit, long before the Vista development cycle was in full swing.
Vista is the fault of Steve Ballmer, not Bill Gates.
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58 makes a very good point. Autism is only more recently being identified more and more. When researchers go look at past cases of mental retardation they are finding more misdiagnosed cases of autism. People also seem to forget that scientific research is not to be taken as fact at the first research paper, it must be replicated many times over before it can be deemed scientifically relevant. What Wakefield did was a unethical to the highest degree, but the damage was already done before he was shown for the hack he is.
Another point to make is that most cases of autism are diagnosed around the same time that many vaccines are given, specifically the MMR vaccine is not to be given until at least 12 months. Just because the time lines are similar, it does not mean vaccines are the cause. Also, the preservatives in vaccines are in trace amounts or have been removed entirely in many modern vaccines. We are exposed to far more toxins in far greater quantities each day. The amount found in vaccines is not enough to do any damage at any age. Hell, we probably consume more mercury from the fish we eat than from all of the vaccines we get our entire lives.
There are also no completely safe medications or vaccines on the market for anything. Even aspirin and Tylenol (two drugs widely considered to be harmless when used properly) have been documented to cause liver damage when used as directed. Everything we consume has the potential to cause some harm to our bodies, we just neglect to see it. Even if vaccines were causing some side effects, they are minimal in comparison to the number of lives they save each year.
Another point to make is that most cases of autism are diagnosed around the same time that many vaccines are given, specifically the MMR vaccine is not to be given until at least 12 months. Just because the time lines are similar, it does not mean vaccines are the cause. Also, the preservatives in vaccines are in trace amounts or have been removed entirely in many modern vaccines. We are exposed to far more toxins in far greater quantities each day. The amount found in vaccines is not enough to do any damage at any age. Hell, we probably consume more mercury from the fish we eat than from all of the vaccines we get our entire lives.
There are also no completely safe medications or vaccines on the market for anything. Even aspirin and Tylenol (two drugs widely considered to be harmless when used properly) have been documented to cause liver damage when used as directed. Everything we consume has the potential to cause some harm to our bodies, we just neglect to see it. Even if vaccines were causing some side effects, they are minimal in comparison to the number of lives they save each year.
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In January I went back to South Ozone Park, NY because my father passed away. After the funeral it was decided by my two sisters and brother that the house needed to be sold...a two family brick with no tenant upstairs that my parents bought in 1974.
While I was there we excavated all the debris of the families past 50 years...one thing that was found was a little blue book that looked like an old bank savings passbook. It was my childhood immunization record from our first family doctor. I was born in October 1960 and it listed the record of early immunizations and subsequent major diseases up until about 1970 when those things called com-pu-ters presumably took over.
Looking through the book, although I, and my siblings, had gotten all the traditional vaccinations, there was a period around 1968-69 when we all got hit hard with each of a combination of them...chicken pox, measels and mumps. I also had a nasty strep throat that kept me out of school for two weeks...I remember distinctly being brought in to see Dr. Mazzone and after taking my temperature, he lambasted my mom as it had gone up to 102F and was continuing to rise toward the brain baking zone.
Looking at the immunization passport, I thought...what was the point of it all if we kids all ended up sick as dogs with these things. My brother still has a little indent scar that he got from the chicken pox (or was it the measels...not sure) near his right temple.
I also remember being ravaged by quite a terrible case of acne during the teen years...the class "crater face" (which doesn't seem to occur as much it seems)...I remember reading accounts of smallpox back around the Civil War...sothern belles would melt wax on their faces as a makeup because of the pock marks being so severe. I sometimes wonder if what was called "acne" then was some type of smallpox....what was the relation of vaccines.
I have no idea what these tales mean.
Just something from long ago.
More...
While I was there we excavated all the debris of the families past 50 years...one thing that was found was a little blue book that looked like an old bank savings passbook. It was my childhood immunization record from our first family doctor. I was born in October 1960 and it listed the record of early immunizations and subsequent major diseases up until about 1970 when those things called com-pu-ters presumably took over.
Looking through the book, although I, and my siblings, had gotten all the traditional vaccinations, there was a period around 1968-69 when we all got hit hard with each of a combination of them...chicken pox, measels and mumps. I also had a nasty strep throat that kept me out of school for two weeks...I remember distinctly being brought in to see Dr. Mazzone and after taking my temperature, he lambasted my mom as it had gone up to 102F and was continuing to rise toward the brain baking zone.
Looking at the immunization passport, I thought...what was the point of it all if we kids all ended up sick as dogs with these things. My brother still has a little indent scar that he got from the chicken pox (or was it the measels...not sure) near his right temple.
I also remember being ravaged by quite a terrible case of acne during the teen years...the class "crater face" (which doesn't seem to occur as much it seems)...I remember reading accounts of smallpox back around the Civil War...sothern belles would melt wax on their faces as a makeup because of the pock marks being so severe. I sometimes wonder if what was called "acne" then was some type of smallpox....what was the relation of vaccines.
I have no idea what these tales mean.
Just something from long ago.
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Spindles counts on our not actually reading through that list of studies, just counting it as a substantial body of clinical evidence that supports his/her point of view.
Count how many of those papers are twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years old--when vaccines were composed very differently, when safety standards in manufacturing and clinical practice were more lax, when autism was less precisely defined. (I spotted one article from 1938. Were doctors even washing their hands in those days?)
Count how many of them are actually from reputable medical journals (eg, JAMA, Lancet, Pediatrics) and not niche journals with less exacting standards (eg, Iowa Med). Singh et al, one of the few of these that contains original data on autism, is from a journal that would cease publication permanently a mere two issues later--if they had good data on a then-hot topic, wouldn't they have been able to get it into the big leagues?
Count how many of them contain original data (the ones with cutesy titles are generally opinion or review pieces that don't add to the evidence, and there are even a couple of letters in the editor responding to the original Wakefield paper).
Count how many of them are actually germane to autism and not to other side effects. (Yes, it's cause for concern that a fraction of children might develop a serious adverse reaction--but it's clearly dwarfed by the well-documented improvement in childhood mortality. Moreover, the fact that we're not talking about any other potential side effects speaks to an a lack of confirmatory data. The question at hand is autism.)
Count how many of them are direct responses to Wakefield, before he'd been discredited.
If you came up with even one study that hasn't been eliminated, you win a cigar. I came up empty-handed.
More...
Count how many of those papers are twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years old--when vaccines were composed very differently, when safety standards in manufacturing and clinical practice were more lax, when autism was less precisely defined. (I spotted one article from 1938. Were doctors even washing their hands in those days?)
Count how many of them are actually from reputable medical journals (eg, JAMA, Lancet, Pediatrics) and not niche journals with less exacting standards (eg, Iowa Med). Singh et al, one of the few of these that contains original data on autism, is from a journal that would cease publication permanently a mere two issues later--if they had good data on a then-hot topic, wouldn't they have been able to get it into the big leagues?
Count how many of them contain original data (the ones with cutesy titles are generally opinion or review pieces that don't add to the evidence, and there are even a couple of letters in the editor responding to the original Wakefield paper).
Count how many of them are actually germane to autism and not to other side effects. (Yes, it's cause for concern that a fraction of children might develop a serious adverse reaction--but it's clearly dwarfed by the well-documented improvement in childhood mortality. Moreover, the fact that we're not talking about any other potential side effects speaks to an a lack of confirmatory data. The question at hand is autism.)
Count how many of them are direct responses to Wakefield, before he'd been discredited.
If you came up with even one study that hasn't been eliminated, you win a cigar. I came up empty-handed.
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Spindles counts on our not actually reading through that list of studies, just counting it as a substantial body of clinical evidence that supports his/her point of view.
Count how many of those papers are twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years old--when vaccines were composed very differently, when safety standards in manufacturing and clinical practice were more lax, when autism was less precisely defined. (I spotted one article from 1938. Were doctors even washing their hands in those days?)
Count how many of them are actually from reputable medical journals (eg, JAMA, Lancet, Pediatrics) and not niche journals with less exacting standards (eg, Iowa Med). Singh et al, one of the few of these that contains original data on autism, is from a journal that would cease publication permanently a mere two issues later--if they had good data on a then-hot topic, wouldn't they have been able to get it into the big leagues?
Count how many of them contain original data (the ones with cutesy titles are generally opinion or review pieces that don't add to the evidence, and there are even a couple of letters in the editor responding to the original Wakefield paper).
Count how many of them are actually germane to autism and not to other side effects. (Yes, it's cause for concern that a fraction of children might develop a serious adverse reaction--but it's clearly dwarfed by the well-documented improvement in childhood mortality. Moreover, the fact that we're not talking about any other potential side effects speaks to an a lack of confirmatory data. The question at hand is autism.)
Count how many of them are direct responses to Wakefield, before he'd been discredited.
If you came up with even one study that hasn't been eliminated, you win a cigar. I came up empty-handed.
More...
Count how many of those papers are twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years old--when vaccines were composed very differently, when safety standards in manufacturing and clinical practice were more lax, when autism was less precisely defined. (I spotted one article from 1938. Were doctors even washing their hands in those days?)
Count how many of them are actually from reputable medical journals (eg, JAMA, Lancet, Pediatrics) and not niche journals with less exacting standards (eg, Iowa Med). Singh et al, one of the few of these that contains original data on autism, is from a journal that would cease publication permanently a mere two issues later--if they had good data on a then-hot topic, wouldn't they have been able to get it into the big leagues?
Count how many of them contain original data (the ones with cutesy titles are generally opinion or review pieces that don't add to the evidence, and there are even a couple of letters in the editor responding to the original Wakefield paper).
Count how many of them are actually germane to autism and not to other side effects. (Yes, it's cause for concern that a fraction of children might develop a serious adverse reaction--but it's clearly dwarfed by the well-documented improvement in childhood mortality. Moreover, the fact that we're not talking about any other potential side effects speaks to an a lack of confirmatory data. The question at hand is autism.)
Count how many of them are direct responses to Wakefield, before he'd been discredited.
If you came up with even one study that hasn't been eliminated, you win a cigar. I came up empty-handed.
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Bill Gates' serves on the board of planned parenthood as did his father Bill Gates Sr.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029071_Bill_G…
Gates claimed his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood
in an interview with Bill Moyers.
Planned Parenthood (formally know as the American Birth Control League) was on the ground floor of the eugenics movement in the early half of the twentieth century. Here are some quotes from its founder Margaret Sanger: ""The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.
"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind."
Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.
Ect...http://www.eadshome.com/MargaretSanger.htm
http://www.naturalnews.com/029071_Bill_G…
Gates claimed his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood
in an interview with Bill Moyers.
Planned Parenthood (formally know as the American Birth Control League) was on the ground floor of the eugenics movement in the early half of the twentieth century. Here are some quotes from its founder Margaret Sanger: ""The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.
"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind."
Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.
Ect...http://www.eadshome.com/MargaretSanger.htm
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Gates seems very interested in using vaccines to reduce the world's population
http://guerillamedia.co.nz/content/bill-…
Gates funds gm mosquitoes or "flying syringes"
to combat dengue
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/11/bill…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcCnwPhGZ…
background: dengue outbreak leads back to cia experiments
http://www.truth-out.org/florida-dengue-…
Funds GMO and biotech
http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=227D7E…
He is promoting a plan to use wireless technology to register every newborn on the planet in a vaccine database.
http://www.naturalnews.com/031031_Bill_G…
and Wants to spread GMO's all over the world
http://www.naturalnews.com/029071_Bill_G…
http://guerillamedia.co.nz/content/bill-…
Gates funds gm mosquitoes or "flying syringes"
to combat dengue
http://www.activistpost.com/2010/11/bill…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcCnwPhGZ…
background: dengue outbreak leads back to cia experiments
http://www.truth-out.org/florida-dengue-…
Funds GMO and biotech
http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=227D7E…
He is promoting a plan to use wireless technology to register every newborn on the planet in a vaccine database.
http://www.naturalnews.com/031031_Bill_G…
and Wants to spread GMO's all over the world
http://www.naturalnews.com/029071_Bill_G…
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Augh. Forgive the duplicate comment; it kept telling me I wasn't logged in and I gave up. This system is buggy as hell.
And Supreme Ruler, there's a saying: "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'" You and your siblings were three children out of billions--if your decades-ago vaccines weren't completely effective, it doesn't exactly outweigh the fact that countless children lived who might otherwise have died. (Note that none of you died from a childhood disease or developed a serious side effect. Hmm.)
Also: (1) acne and smallpox are not even in the same ballpark, and (2) Southern belles in the antebellum era were not vaccinated. Was there a point you were trying to make there?
And Supreme Ruler, there's a saying: "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'" You and your siblings were three children out of billions--if your decades-ago vaccines weren't completely effective, it doesn't exactly outweigh the fact that countless children lived who might otherwise have died. (Note that none of you died from a childhood disease or developed a serious side effect. Hmm.)
Also: (1) acne and smallpox are not even in the same ballpark, and (2) Southern belles in the antebellum era were not vaccinated. Was there a point you were trying to make there?
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JAMA-
Guillain-Barré Syndrome Following Influenza Vaccination
"causal association between GBS and influenza vaccine."
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/292/20/…
Guillain-Barré Syndrome Following Influenza Vaccination
"causal association between GBS and influenza vaccine."
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/292/20/…
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CDC on Gardasil side effects and related deaths
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccine…
FOIA uncovers 16 new Gardasil-related deaths
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/belt…
JAMA also published an article from Columbia University, questioning Merck's marketing practices for the vaccine. It seems that the American College Health Association, the American Society for Colposcopy and Cervical Pathology, and the Society of Gynecologic Oncologists promoted Gardasil with the help of $750,000 provided by Merck. Lines seemed to have blurred between education and marketing that did not address the "full complexity of issues surrounding the vaccine" or "provide balanced recommendations" on the product's risks and benefits. The associations' officials denied this.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/302/7/7…
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccine…
FOIA uncovers 16 new Gardasil-related deaths
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/belt…
JAMA also published an article from Columbia University, questioning Merck's marketing practices for the vaccine. It seems that the American College Health Association, the American Society for Colposcopy and Cervical Pathology, and the Society of Gynecologic Oncologists promoted Gardasil with the help of $750,000 provided by Merck. Lines seemed to have blurred between education and marketing that did not address the "full complexity of issues surrounding the vaccine" or "provide balanced recommendations" on the product's risks and benefits. The associations' officials denied this.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/302/7/7…
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74: I agree with respect to Flu-shots. A flu-shot I had in November 2001 triggered horrible neurological symptoms ( so bad that a leading neurologist in Seattle diagnosed a mild stroke, incorrectly ). Followed by years of decreasing aftershocks. Obviously I avoid the flu-shots now. As for the childrens' shots - yes, it is babykilling to deny them. First & last time I agree with Bill Gates.
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@Spindles
"Oh, don't worry. I'm not going into that cavity. That nerve's already dying. A live, freshly-cut nerve is infinitely more sensitive. So I'll just drill into a healthy tooth until I reach the pulp. That is unless, of course, you can tell me that it's safe."
"Oh, don't worry. I'm not going into that cavity. That nerve's already dying. A live, freshly-cut nerve is infinitely more sensitive. So I'll just drill into a healthy tooth until I reach the pulp. That is unless, of course, you can tell me that it's safe."
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Here's what I don't understand. If the idiots who pray their children's illness will go away, instead of taking them to the doctor where they can be properly cared for, and that child dies, they can be prosecuted. So why can't these idiots who don't get their children vaccinated be prosecuted? They not only endanger their own children but they endanger the lives of those around them. Vaccinations should be mandatory, by law.
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@30 FTW
@Spindles Hey, I survived measles, mumps, rubella and scarlet fever as a child, before there were vaccines. But, it doesn't prove your point and wasn't without a high cost. I'm sterile, and for the rest of my life have to take hormones for hypogonadism, and drugs for hypertension and hypersensitivity. Now shut your mouth and go get your children vaccinated, you stupid shit.
@Spindles Hey, I survived measles, mumps, rubella and scarlet fever as a child, before there were vaccines. But, it doesn't prove your point and wasn't without a high cost. I'm sterile, and for the rest of my life have to take hormones for hypogonadism, and drugs for hypertension and hypersensitivity. Now shut your mouth and go get your children vaccinated, you stupid shit.
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@spindles I forgot to add, I was lucky enough to avoid polio long enough to be vaccinated against it, but others in my school were not so lucky. I had classmates in leg braces and crutches.
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1.) What we're seeing here is partially a consequence of scientism. Since people were taught to respect what science did, and even more so its technological fruits, without being adequately educated as to how it's done and why, the false attitudes of worship and fear supervene actual understanding. Scientists have some responsibility for this in not explaining what we do adequately or insisting that it be adequately explained by others...this worked decently in a more intellectually top-down society such as we used to have, but exploding mædia (messy) and Authority's record on (e.g.) Vietnam, CIA experiments, the Tuskegee affair, reduced people's willingness to believe people notionally above them---an immune response. This is both a good to thing (healthy scepticism) and a bad (autoimmune overdrive: people being unable to distinguish reasonable authorities on particular subjects from unreasonable, making it all a matter of opinion, tilting the world toward those who scream loudest). People opposed to scientific naturalism are also to blame, though their ideas in light of the above may be seen as an opportunistic infection.
2.) A funny thing about Margaret Sanger: she really, really, cared about the conditions in which the poor lived. When she published (I believe with E. Goldman) "The Woman Rebel" her comment about it being kinder to kill a poor child was hyperbole (and a half) designed to bring home how badly some of them lived. She wanted birth control spread because while working as a nurse she saw the damage that too much childbirth---and botched abortions---did to poor women. She never got a lot of funding arguing that way, so she switched to eugenicist arguments, because...
3.) A funny thing about eugenicism: it was ubiquitous around that time, and definitely much more respectable than birth-control. Perfessor G. Beck is absolutely _right_ that the Progressive movement's ranks were riddled with pro-eugenics types...but so were their opponents', the only exception being the extremely religious. Ms Sanger probably believed in it to some extent, but I'm of the opinion that she believed in the work she was doing with the money she got from it more.
4.) A funny thing about William Gates III: yes, he's a rich kid who played fast-and-loose with the rights of the people who wrote CPM, yes his firm engaged in Mom-opolistic [sic...'Futurama' made me do it] practices, yes the early 64k segmentation was major lossage, yes Win95/98/Mobile stank on ice...but at least he's one of those who want to own relatively happy and healthy people, and on the scale of evil billionaires he is hardly our worst worry these days when Scaifes and Kochs and Murdochs roam free. I'm much more afraid of those who can't enjoy being rich until the rest of us are miserable.
5.) A funny thing about humans: many of us have a weird need to believe that we live in a comprehensibly just world, so that (for example) God or the Market demands that the poor starve and even as He/It blesses mine own prosperity, and any death can be traced to sorcery which can be balanced by killing the sorceror. When things go wrong, someone or something must be blamed...and once you assume bad faith in your target, no evidence will prove that (at least) they're not _trying_ to do the Bad Thing.
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2.) A funny thing about Margaret Sanger: she really, really, cared about the conditions in which the poor lived. When she published (I believe with E. Goldman) "The Woman Rebel" her comment about it being kinder to kill a poor child was hyperbole (and a half) designed to bring home how badly some of them lived. She wanted birth control spread because while working as a nurse she saw the damage that too much childbirth---and botched abortions---did to poor women. She never got a lot of funding arguing that way, so she switched to eugenicist arguments, because...
3.) A funny thing about eugenicism: it was ubiquitous around that time, and definitely much more respectable than birth-control. Perfessor G. Beck is absolutely _right_ that the Progressive movement's ranks were riddled with pro-eugenics types...but so were their opponents', the only exception being the extremely religious. Ms Sanger probably believed in it to some extent, but I'm of the opinion that she believed in the work she was doing with the money she got from it more.
4.) A funny thing about William Gates III: yes, he's a rich kid who played fast-and-loose with the rights of the people who wrote CPM, yes his firm engaged in Mom-opolistic [sic...'Futurama' made me do it] practices, yes the early 64k segmentation was major lossage, yes Win95/98/Mobile stank on ice...but at least he's one of those who want to own relatively happy and healthy people, and on the scale of evil billionaires he is hardly our worst worry these days when Scaifes and Kochs and Murdochs roam free. I'm much more afraid of those who can't enjoy being rich until the rest of us are miserable.
5.) A funny thing about humans: many of us have a weird need to believe that we live in a comprehensibly just world, so that (for example) God or the Market demands that the poor starve and even as He/It blesses mine own prosperity, and any death can be traced to sorcery which can be balanced by killing the sorceror. When things go wrong, someone or something must be blamed...and once you assume bad faith in your target, no evidence will prove that (at least) they're not _trying_ to do the Bad Thing.
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@ the various people that have criticized my statement about autism rates being diagnostic, rather than an actual increase:
This is the kind of thing I'm relying on to accept that hypothesis: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=9…
This is the kind of thing I'm relying on to accept that hypothesis: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=9…
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I'm in medical school. I would love to be a pediatrician when I finish training, but the thought of dealing with vaccine-denying parents day in and day out makes me want to run for the hills. So sad, because I love kids and treating them is a joy and a challenge.
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@74: no one claims vaccines are entirely without side effects, nor that there shouldn't be exceptions to who gets them. Flu causes up to half a million deaths per year. (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheet…)
As far as GBS, do you know what makes you more likely to get it than the flu vaccine? Surprise: The Flu. http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/48…
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/16…
As far as GBS, do you know what makes you more likely to get it than the flu vaccine? Surprise: The Flu. http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/48…
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/16…
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Look Goldy, just because nothing awful happened to your kid doesn't mean that something awful didn't happen to other kids. These scientific studies have disproven that vaccines are the direct cause of autism. They absolutely have not disproven that excessive vaccinations are ONE OF THE CAUSES (some others being environmental toxins, maternal stress and a genetic propensity). Do you really think parents of autistic kids have the time, strength or money to so vociferously oppose mandated vaccinations if they didn't see their own children disappear into that hole of autism right after a round? So for goodness' sake, THINK about your child's unique biological history and characteristics BEFORE you get them vaccinated already!
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@88: Let's just pretend that you're not wrong about vaccines being anything to do with autism at all, despite the entirety of the scientific literature showing no correlation whatsoever. Would you find it more important to prevent one of the factors of autism, knowing it's not a direct cause or to prevent the deaths of up to 3 in 1000 of all children due to preventable diseases? That's where mortality of childhood disease was in the US and England before vaccines.
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Planned Parenthood is eugenics. So are attempts to reduce dengue fever. Vaccines kill children, while childhood diseases are proof of God's glorious bounty. Spindles, your world is truly inside-out and upside-down. It doesn't matter how many ancient or discredited studies you think you're citing; you're beyond wrong. Goo goo ga joob, brother, goo goo ga joob.
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You can have your pediatrician divide the shots up so they aren't as large if you are worried.
Autism may be a more diagnosed condition today. It may be environmental conditions. But it's not vaccinations.
My three older siblings all had polio. One of them was paralyzed when she was 4 years old. She had an operation and regained the ability to walk but it has weakened her for the rest of her life. She was separated from our mother for 3 months as the hospital where she was being treated was far away from where we lived. Many children weren't so fortunate at that hospital.
Consider the evidence and the ramifications of not getting vaccinated.
Autism may be a more diagnosed condition today. It may be environmental conditions. But it's not vaccinations.
My three older siblings all had polio. One of them was paralyzed when she was 4 years old. She had an operation and regained the ability to walk but it has weakened her for the rest of her life. She was separated from our mother for 3 months as the hospital where she was being treated was far away from where we lived. Many children weren't so fortunate at that hospital.
Consider the evidence and the ramifications of not getting vaccinated.
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@88, parents might be pretty good at noticing when something is wrong with their kid but they are terrible at determining why their children are sick compared to biologists. The experts have looked at all these claims of vaccines being dangerous for young children and dismissed them. They know what they are talking about. Why do you trust people who know relatively little about biology or the immune system over those who do?
As someone who does know a little about the immune system, the claim that vaccines overload the immune system somehow is pretty laughable. Children are exposed to thousands of new bacteria and viruses every day of their lives and their immune system seems to handle the majority of those just fine. Vaccines simply introduce parts of a single organism their bodies should really know about into the body. It's no different then what happens every time your child is cut or scraped by anything non sterile, in fact it's more tame.
As someone who does know a little about the immune system, the claim that vaccines overload the immune system somehow is pretty laughable. Children are exposed to thousands of new bacteria and viruses every day of their lives and their immune system seems to handle the majority of those just fine. Vaccines simply introduce parts of a single organism their bodies should really know about into the body. It's no different then what happens every time your child is cut or scraped by anything non sterile, in fact it's more tame.
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@93: well, you're obviously some damned Kenyan socialist élitist, because you're claiming that someone could know something about a child his parents wouldn't. His parents are hard workers, whereas this scientist type you're trusting never did a lick of work in her life (what she calls the 'work' to master her field isn't, because it isn't something normal people do or understand, the latter not least because she's not doing it primarily for the pay), and we TRUST hard work and gut-feeling more than so-called 'expertise' and 'reasoning' and 'facts'.
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I believe in getting kids vaccinated, but it makes me cringe hearing the parents of these children with autism called assholes and idiots. These are desperate people who in many cases had what appeared to be perfectly healthy children whose health started deteriorating the day they were vaccinated. Imagine watching your child go through that and being powerless to stop it. I don't blame them for wanting answers.
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@85: Do it anyway. There are plenty of rational people who might ask you questions and then actually take your advice. Really.
I interpreted for a shitfuckton of peds appointment over the course of four years, and I never once saw a parent refuse a vaccine. In fairness, though, the Spanish-speaking population tends to elevate doctors and do whatever they recommend. Hey, maybe get a gig in a farmworkers community. Lotsa cute kids and parents who take your advice. Score!
I interpreted for a shitfuckton of peds appointment over the course of four years, and I never once saw a parent refuse a vaccine. In fairness, though, the Spanish-speaking population tends to elevate doctors and do whatever they recommend. Hey, maybe get a gig in a farmworkers community. Lotsa cute kids and parents who take your advice. Score!
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@95: I don't blame them for wanting answers. I blame them for wilfully ignoring the anwsers when they get them and for continuing to promote a dangerous, harmful, and wrong campaign against safe, effective childhood vaccinations.
Bad things happen. People get sick. People die. We don't always know why. Seizing on a wrong-headed explanation and pushing it to the point where it is demonstrably harmful is not a constructive or healthy response to those facts.
Bad things happen. People get sick. People die. We don't always know why. Seizing on a wrong-headed explanation and pushing it to the point where it is demonstrably harmful is not a constructive or healthy response to those facts.
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@90 You're too kind to him. The 3 in 1000 figure is the direct mortality of children (and I suspect that doesn't include all of the vaccine-preventable diseases). It doesn't include morbidity, still births, or the devastating life-long and life-shortening debilities of congenital rubella syndrome. Nor does it address the staggering costs of nursing someone through polio or its crippling after-effects.
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@ 85: My friend's pediatrician has a big sign in her office that says if you don't intend to vaccinate your child then she recommends you find another pediatrician. You could do something similar.
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As the parent of a child with Aspergers, I can't figure out why autism has become such a boogie man in this vaccine debate. I mean, it's a challenge but it's not THAT bad. Why are people so afraid of it?
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To 90: I agree vaccinations are not a direct cause of autism; I disagree that they have nothing to do with autism at all. I'd be foolish to disregard what I've seen and experienced. And no, it's definitely not worth eradicating an autism factor if doing so guarantees widespread baby death.
To 93: I am definitely no biologist and I probably don't know any more about the immune system than the next guy. I was, however, involved in the pharmaceutical industry. I'm sceptical the studies, particularly the politics involved and sources of funding.
To all: I'm not advocating eradicating all vaccines. That would be beyond awful. I can't imagine how many kids would suffer from disease and death. I definitely AM advocating that parents and pediatricians scrutinize a child's familial medical history (particularly for neurological disorders), assess his/her current toxic load, and uncover any issues (including maternal) from conception to present BEFORE following the usual vaccination schedule. Just asking people to think instead of blindly accept is all.
To 93: I am definitely no biologist and I probably don't know any more about the immune system than the next guy. I was, however, involved in the pharmaceutical industry. I'm sceptical the studies, particularly the politics involved and sources of funding.
To all: I'm not advocating eradicating all vaccines. That would be beyond awful. I can't imagine how many kids would suffer from disease and death. I definitely AM advocating that parents and pediatricians scrutinize a child's familial medical history (particularly for neurological disorders), assess his/her current toxic load, and uncover any issues (including maternal) from conception to present BEFORE following the usual vaccination schedule. Just asking people to think instead of blindly accept is all.
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88, that would be a convincing argument if you weren't factually wrong. Studies have been done comparing rates of autism in populations that get vaccinated versus that do not. Vaccinations have been stopped temporarily in some places to test the hypothesis. Turns out that there is absolutely no change in autism rates for the pool of people who are not vaccinated versus those who are. If vaccines were a contributing factor, even if it required other factors as well, then there would be a decrease in autism rates among the unvaccinated, but there isn't. The unvaccinated children get autism at the exact same rates as the vaccinated children, they just also are at a much higher risk for measles, which has been a major childhood killer due to its extreme contagiousness, polio if the parents are so unbelievably stupid as to not vaccinate against polio, and so forth. So, if you prefer your child to have a better chance of being alive and not permanently disabled (many childhood diseases often do not kill but run a risk of creating lifelong permanent symptoms such as vision loss, difficulty walking, etc.) then get your child vaccinated - unless your child is actually in one of the few rare cases which are exceptions, such as being immunocompromised, in which case your doctor will discuss that with you. And if your child is, then you absolutely better make sure you stay up to date on your vaccinations and if you have any other children that they do, because your child will be relying on herd immunity, and it'd suck if your child died because you let a sibling spread measles to your kid.
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@95, if you think any kid started descending into autism "the day they were vaccinated", you ARE an idiot. THERE IS NO LINK. There's nothing there. And the only science that suggests otherwise WAS ENTIRELY FAKED.
Call a spade a spade. Idiots. Deluded. Child killers. These terms are accurate.
There are no "answers". We don't know what causes autism. We do know it's not vaccines. And we know that parents who refuse to vaccinate as a result of their mistaken beliefs ARE KILLERS.
They should have their children taken away from them and be put in jail, as far as I'm concerned.
Call a spade a spade. Idiots. Deluded. Child killers. These terms are accurate.
There are no "answers". We don't know what causes autism. We do know it's not vaccines. And we know that parents who refuse to vaccinate as a result of their mistaken beliefs ARE KILLERS.
They should have their children taken away from them and be put in jail, as far as I'm concerned.
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@106: Wait, that Lippman schmuck is Spindles?
YOU BASTARD! You still owe me $150 from San Antonio!
YOU BASTARD! You still owe me $150 from San Antonio!
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Does someone commenting from outside of the SLOG group always get labeled a troll? Or only those with opposing view points? Whether Spindler is right or wrong, his/her comments provide a nice break in the proverbial high fives and clapping one another on the back and giving out awards for "best comment ever on this subject." Isn't it nice sometimes to have a conversation that doesn't get overcome with witty remarks on how our group is so much smarter and better and more hip/open then everyone else. The stupid Christians, the stupid republicans, the stupid fill in the blank. Who cares? Do you really need to brag that much to each other online to know what you are all about? To prove it every day in writing the most funny or intelligent comment? Oh and don't forget to call me a troll because I've never written on here except I have been a reader for as long as I can remember of the Stranger on paper and online.
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@108 - We call spindles (and republicans and christianists) stupid because they are. Are you suggesting we lie instead?
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Calling a view point stupid is better then calling the person carrying that view point stupid. If you want to show someone the truth, to teach them the right thing you have to go about it a different way. Imagine you are in the dark and a person shines a light in your eyes, does this help you see better or blinds you? Wouldn't it be better to be led to the light slowly letting your eyes adjust? If this group continues to just enjoy fraternizing with each other and people with like minded views, and anyone that disagrees is harassed until they don't come back can we still think of this group as open minded or liberal?
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You have to look at risk versus benefit. While there is absolutely no link between vaccinations, and autism, they are not without risk. Nothing in the world is. People are much more likely to suffer harm in a car than they are getting in a plane. Yet, many folks who are afraid to fly will jump right into a car without a second thought. Millions of people are killed or injured in automobiles, but we've decided that the risk is worth the benefit of getting where we want to go in a timely fashion. Vaccinations save by far, many more lives than they harm. The slight risks are worth the benefit.
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@108, 110 Hate to say it, GMaul, but that applies when there's a knowledge issue. I really don't think that that's the case. "Vaccine skeptics", at least the active ones, have done plenty of research. They just operate from a different prior.
You've heard of Bayes' Theorem? We evaluate new information in light of prior knowledge. Information that contradicts the prior is held up to greater scrutiny (ie, must be more convincing) than information that confirms the prior. This is both totally human and totally logical; in the absence of perfect information, you have to take imperfect information as it comes.
Reasonable human beings assume that the scientific consensus is a pretty strong prior. When new information comes in confirming the safety of vaccines (and there is plenty), this confirms the prior. When new information comes in (in general) disproving the safety of vaccines (and there is very little), they evaluate it critically. The reverse is true for vaccine skeptics; they find the scientific consensus intrinsically untrustworthy, so the reverse is the case.
More to the point, there's nothing you can really say to convince an active vaccine skeptic. If they were open to new data, and didn't have a strong prior against the medical consensus, they wouldn't be a vaccine skeptic. Expert opinion on vaccines is suspect, by definition, because the experts on vaccines are people who actually work on vaccines, and therefore have a conflict of interest. (Try googling Paul Offitt if you think I'm exaggerating.)
So what do you do? You stand firm and don't let nonsense propagate itself, because there are people who aren't educated on the topic, and who aren't actively skeptical, but who might passively buy garbage science because it's an easy thing to do - you don't have to do anything, or buy anything, or believe anything in particular. Kids hate getting needles. Adults hate getting needles. So a sensitive, loving parent doesn't need a lot of convincing. Even when the benefit is so clear, the payment so minor, and the risk so small as it is with vaccination.
Yeah, that's intolerant. Call me intolerant.
@103 "Toxic load"? I'd think that a child should be healthy in general when he/she receives a vaccination - but not because of some hypothetical toxic load, just because the vaccine often won't take if the child isn't healthy.
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You've heard of Bayes' Theorem? We evaluate new information in light of prior knowledge. Information that contradicts the prior is held up to greater scrutiny (ie, must be more convincing) than information that confirms the prior. This is both totally human and totally logical; in the absence of perfect information, you have to take imperfect information as it comes.
Reasonable human beings assume that the scientific consensus is a pretty strong prior. When new information comes in confirming the safety of vaccines (and there is plenty), this confirms the prior. When new information comes in (in general) disproving the safety of vaccines (and there is very little), they evaluate it critically. The reverse is true for vaccine skeptics; they find the scientific consensus intrinsically untrustworthy, so the reverse is the case.
More to the point, there's nothing you can really say to convince an active vaccine skeptic. If they were open to new data, and didn't have a strong prior against the medical consensus, they wouldn't be a vaccine skeptic. Expert opinion on vaccines is suspect, by definition, because the experts on vaccines are people who actually work on vaccines, and therefore have a conflict of interest. (Try googling Paul Offitt if you think I'm exaggerating.)
So what do you do? You stand firm and don't let nonsense propagate itself, because there are people who aren't educated on the topic, and who aren't actively skeptical, but who might passively buy garbage science because it's an easy thing to do - you don't have to do anything, or buy anything, or believe anything in particular. Kids hate getting needles. Adults hate getting needles. So a sensitive, loving parent doesn't need a lot of convincing. Even when the benefit is so clear, the payment so minor, and the risk so small as it is with vaccination.
Yeah, that's intolerant. Call me intolerant.
@103 "Toxic load"? I'd think that a child should be healthy in general when he/she receives a vaccination - but not because of some hypothetical toxic load, just because the vaccine often won't take if the child isn't healthy.
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@3 for the win.
Look, it's understandable that parents of autistic kids would glom onto anything they can think of to "explain" why their kid is autistic, but that doesn't make it correct, just like pretending Climate Change isn't happening won't change the fact that it is and that it's gonna be hella hot in 2040.
Look, it's understandable that parents of autistic kids would glom onto anything they can think of to "explain" why their kid is autistic, but that doesn't make it correct, just like pretending Climate Change isn't happening won't change the fact that it is and that it's gonna be hella hot in 2040.
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@37, I'm in love. Please have my child. We'll raise it up on Peeps and vaccinate it against spindles together.
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I had the mumps and the chicken pox and several other childhood diseases, my family was not germ-a-phobic and I was raised in the middle of corn fields on a mid-west farm. I very rarely get sick, had the usual 70's something school vaccines and am no worse for wear. Twenty year olds get sicker than I do.
Some vaccines I agree with. But not all of them. Not for their reasons either, for my own. Children should get some illnesses that you only get once. Chicken pox and mumps for sure. Some of them I will never agree with.
Ending with, it is my own opinion and I will either be happy or regret the no vaccines. My choice and I wish the bleeding hearts and the sheeple who insist we all conform or we are doomsayers to our children or whatever their cause is. Stop muddling around in my freedom to make my own choices for myself and my family. I do not tell you how to live, I will not be told by anyone how to live. If people do not want this for their kids, well then it is their dilema, not Susies and Billys dilema over in the next state that does not know me.
If people do wnat this for their kids then please go ahead. Again, it is not everyone elses business in this country who does what. And stop telling the government I need to have a big daddy around to tell me what to do in my own private life. I can go to the wet spot if I really needed a daddy.
Oh yea, for the record, I have no kids. Just tired of everyone having nothing better to do than to get into other peoples business that does not concern them.
Some vaccines I agree with. But not all of them. Not for their reasons either, for my own. Children should get some illnesses that you only get once. Chicken pox and mumps for sure. Some of them I will never agree with.
Ending with, it is my own opinion and I will either be happy or regret the no vaccines. My choice and I wish the bleeding hearts and the sheeple who insist we all conform or we are doomsayers to our children or whatever their cause is. Stop muddling around in my freedom to make my own choices for myself and my family. I do not tell you how to live, I will not be told by anyone how to live. If people do not want this for their kids, well then it is their dilema, not Susies and Billys dilema over in the next state that does not know me.
If people do wnat this for their kids then please go ahead. Again, it is not everyone elses business in this country who does what. And stop telling the government I need to have a big daddy around to tell me what to do in my own private life. I can go to the wet spot if I really needed a daddy.
Oh yea, for the record, I have no kids. Just tired of everyone having nothing better to do than to get into other peoples business that does not concern them.
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I have often wondered if the whole "vaccines are bad for you" idea wasn't started by Big Pharma in the first place. After all, the drug companies don't make a lot of money on vaccines, but they stand to make a fortune when people start getting sick with the diseases they vaccinate against and will pay anything for a 'cure'.
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@88 Do you have kids? Do you have an autistic kid? Because I do. I can say one thing for sure, I would rather take the "risk" of vaccinating my second kid and having her also be autistic than having her catch some awful PREVENTABLE disease and die.
That's right. I have one Autistic kid and I still vaccinate. It's stupid not to.
Is it hard to have an Autistic kid? Yes. But it's also hard to have kids, Autistic or not.
That's right. I have one Autistic kid and I still vaccinate. It's stupid not to.
Is it hard to have an Autistic kid? Yes. But it's also hard to have kids, Autistic or not.
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@115 While it would be nice to live in a world where you could exactly what you wanted all the time, that isn't this world. The reason vaccines are strongly encouraged is because herd immunity protects those that cannot take the vaccines at all. Chicken Pox and Mumps kill and sterilize children. You may not have had any problems as a child, but you were lucky. My brother got chicken pox when he was fifteen and ended up in the hospital he was so sick. These diseases are vaccinated against for a reason, they harm, they kill and it's a proven fact, which is why the vaccines were created in the first place.
Calling people idiots is wrong headed. Calling their decisions or the poor information they rely on stupid or misinformed is not.
When I had my daughter in 2002 that paper by Wakefield was first coming out. But because vaccines had been around for so much longer and the research I did said that the vaccines that had harmful elements had been re-created, I saw no reason not to get my child vaccinated. I hated watching my daughter get injected with four needles. She would scream and cry and fuss and usually end up with a fever and swollen areas where the needles went in. But she's never gotten sick or been miserable or had to go to the hospital, so I'm thankful for that even while I cringe for every time she cried when she got her shots.
Calling people idiots is wrong headed. Calling their decisions or the poor information they rely on stupid or misinformed is not.
When I had my daughter in 2002 that paper by Wakefield was first coming out. But because vaccines had been around for so much longer and the research I did said that the vaccines that had harmful elements had been re-created, I saw no reason not to get my child vaccinated. I hated watching my daughter get injected with four needles. She would scream and cry and fuss and usually end up with a fever and swollen areas where the needles went in. But she's never gotten sick or been miserable or had to go to the hospital, so I'm thankful for that even while I cringe for every time she cried when she got her shots.
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Oh my goodness, I love these trolls xD
Clearly, vaccines are beneficial. I would not be here if not for them, so thank you science! I'm a biologist, and I can't wait to help out the world someday as well. Pity that there will always be "anti" people that think actual cures and preventions aren't really necessary...
Clearly, vaccines are beneficial. I would not be here if not for them, so thank you science! I'm a biologist, and I can't wait to help out the world someday as well. Pity that there will always be "anti" people that think actual cures and preventions aren't really necessary...
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@115
Let me put it this way. If your unvaccinated self, or your unvaccinated kids got sick and passed whooping cough or swine flu to my daughter and she died of it, I would kill you. No, I mean it. I would find you and kill you. I would willingly go to jail if I could be sure you were dead for killing my daughter. I might even kill you if you permanently hurt her.
If you had vaccinated your kid, there would have been two less murders.
Vaccinate your damn kids, lets get rid of these ridiculous diseases once and for all.
Let me put it this way. If your unvaccinated self, or your unvaccinated kids got sick and passed whooping cough or swine flu to my daughter and she died of it, I would kill you. No, I mean it. I would find you and kill you. I would willingly go to jail if I could be sure you were dead for killing my daughter. I might even kill you if you permanently hurt her.
If you had vaccinated your kid, there would have been two less murders.
Vaccinate your damn kids, lets get rid of these ridiculous diseases once and for all.
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@spindlestroll
"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind."
Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.
How come she missed you?
"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind."
Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.
How come she missed you?
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As the parent of a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, I just want to say that you can not villianize these anti-vaccinationists enough. They want to allow children to die in the name of supposed helping people like my beautiful Son#1, which is the grossest insult to him I can imagine.
Thank you for pitching in on the cause.
One Brow
Thank you for pitching in on the cause.
One Brow
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For those who think Chicken Pox is a harmless child's disease . . .
I was exposed several times as a child, but never caught it. Mum even thought I might be naturally immune. The worst I ever had as a kid was one nasty flu, and tonsillitis (US name might be strep throat? Not sure)
As a 20 year old, I caught it off my niece.
I was in bed sick for 2 weeks. I was delirious, seeing people (who weren't there) walking around my room. My flatmate debated taking me to hospital at one point my fever was so high, but decided that I would infect other, sicker people, so actually took sick leave herself to watch me for a day and keep an eye on my temperature, at the suggestion of my doctor. Eventually, I got better. A week later, I started coughing a lot. Turns out the pox lead to a secondary infection, and I had a very nasty case of pneumonia that took 3 weeks to shake, and I nearly failed a couple of courses at uni as a result. 6 weeks of my life I'd like back.
Two years later, the vaccine came out.
How I avoided it at school, when best friends and playmates had it, I don't know. It went through my school at least 4 times. So you can't rely on that to protect you.
I was exposed several times as a child, but never caught it. Mum even thought I might be naturally immune. The worst I ever had as a kid was one nasty flu, and tonsillitis (US name might be strep throat? Not sure)
As a 20 year old, I caught it off my niece.
I was in bed sick for 2 weeks. I was delirious, seeing people (who weren't there) walking around my room. My flatmate debated taking me to hospital at one point my fever was so high, but decided that I would infect other, sicker people, so actually took sick leave herself to watch me for a day and keep an eye on my temperature, at the suggestion of my doctor. Eventually, I got better. A week later, I started coughing a lot. Turns out the pox lead to a secondary infection, and I had a very nasty case of pneumonia that took 3 weeks to shake, and I nearly failed a couple of courses at uni as a result. 6 weeks of my life I'd like back.
Two years later, the vaccine came out.
How I avoided it at school, when best friends and playmates had it, I don't know. It went through my school at least 4 times. So you can't rely on that to protect you.
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@_db_: You made my day. You win, now and forever.
@spindles: You do realize that a) you basically just proved that researchers are concerned about the safety of vaccines and are contributing towards that end and b) the most recent paper you cited was published in 1998 and it's now 2011? Yes. 13-year-old research is useless to us, hon. Because people keep researching and the world keeps a-changin'! For one thing, the US bowed to the demands of the crazies and removed thimerosal in 2001 from all vaccines. That was a big deal for some people.
Also, I concur that you should go ahead and admit that the Jews(my homeboys!) are behind all this to kill people and make money. It's not so hard.
@spindles: You do realize that a) you basically just proved that researchers are concerned about the safety of vaccines and are contributing towards that end and b) the most recent paper you cited was published in 1998 and it's now 2011? Yes. 13-year-old research is useless to us, hon. Because people keep researching and the world keeps a-changin'! For one thing, the US bowed to the demands of the crazies and removed thimerosal in 2001 from all vaccines. That was a big deal for some people.
Also, I concur that you should go ahead and admit that the Jews(my homeboys!) are behind all this to kill people and make money. It's not so hard.
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here's some ingredients in vaccines: aluminum, formalin, mercury, phenol, antibiotics, dye, gmo's, animal and human bits, etc. you inject a baby with this crap (over and over), what do you think is going to happen? use some common sense.
and most infectious diseases decreased more than 90% at the turn of the last century, 40 years before the first vaccine was created.
it's ok to think for yourself, and not rely on what your dopey parents told you as a kid.
and most infectious diseases decreased more than 90% at the turn of the last century, 40 years before the first vaccine was created.
it's ok to think for yourself, and not rely on what your dopey parents told you as a kid.
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Is anyone at all concerned with foreign animal viruses in vaccines? That in the process of developing vaccines, researchers have repeatedly mixed human and animal cell lines? Now we are seeing animal viruses showing up in cancerous tumors, such as SV40 (monkeys, polio vaccine) and murine leukemia viruses in prostate cancers and CFS patient. I know XMRV research is still really in it's infancy, with lots of controversy over contamination issues and even what strain is being identified, but there is enough to warrant further research. Once you consider how only CFS or prostate cancer samples were contaminated at a high rate while the control group was not, considering these studies were ran all samples through the same lab, it seems clear to me that the contamination issue is still insufficient to explain the data. I find it fascinating that the majority of people attacking the anti-vaccine camp focus solely on autism. There is a lot more to the general public questioning vaccines than just this. Being that we live in a market economy, the consumers dropping demand for one item (vaccines as they are) and increasing demand for another (safer alternatives) is exactly what motivates profit seeking businesses (pharmaceutical companies) to produce the product that is in demand. If we step in and mandate vaccines as they are now, we interfere with the natural economic process that will motivate production of safer alternatives and better screening for contaminate viruses. We should be using this public backlash as a motivation to address these concerns with more research and safer vaccines rather than trying to mandate a product as it is when it truly may have side effects that are also debilitating and deadly.
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