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Wednesday, February 2, 2011

Health Care Repeal Fail

Posted by on Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:16 PM

It just went down 47-51 in the Senate.

 

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gloomy gus 1
Whew. May the Iowa Senate follow suit in killing (as expected) the gay marriage repeal their own House has floated them.
Posted by gloomy gus on February 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM
svensken 2
Who are the missing votes?
Posted by svensken on February 2, 2011 at 5:44 PM
dznqbit 3
In related news, Barnum and Bailey have added 2 new tigers...
Posted by dznqbit on February 2, 2011 at 6:19 PM
michaelp 4
@2 -

Lieberman and Warner.
Posted by michaelp on February 2, 2011 at 6:38 PM
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Dude, have you even read the healthcare legislation???

You remind me of all those clowns who tout the "financial reform" (Dodd-Frank Act) as the greatest thing, when all it does is consolidate the power and control of Wall Street by allowing for propriety trading (rampant speculation, instead of lending), using private clearinghouses which the banksters own, instead of public or "other-owned" clearinghouses (ergo, they control and own EVERYTHING, exchanges, clearinghouses, the banks and all those credit derivatives, i.e., "securitized debt"), allowed now to take energy companies private to avoid any oversight and regs, and sticking the so-called consumer protection agency with the Federal Reserve, the VERY LAST PLACE it should be.

The health insurance legislation was designed originally within the Heritage Foundation, the most rightwing outfit out there, written by Liz Folwer, the former VP from the health insurance gian, Wellpoint, who was then hired by the Obama Administration to sign all those waivers for the health insurance companies' behalf, and utilizing the "insurance exchanges" concocted at Enron sometime ago, to enable further shadow banking practises; as in mortality derivatives, q-Forwards, etc., etc.

The financial chokepoints in that legislation will allow congress to vote down all those items which were suppose to eventually benefit the masses, so that by the time 2014 rolls around, it will be just a skeleton, legally mandating the citizenry to purchase substandard health insurance from private companies which won't benefit any of us.

All during that time, donations will be forthcoming to the Re-CONS and faux crats, all wasting people's time and money who don't comprehend the legislation nor its actual financial construction.

Either way one cuts it, it benefits and profits the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries.

Why can't any of you clowns ever, ever READ THE FRIGGING LEGISLATION??????

(And yes, there are at least three children nationally who can be cited to have been helped by the so-called "pre-existing condition" verbiage --- but we aren't seeing all those who are still getting screwed thanks to those waivers being signed by Liz Fowler over at HHS.
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Posted by sgt_doom on February 2, 2011 at 6:40 PM
Urgutha Forka 6
@5,
It's an awkward, ugly, but necessary first step towards the eventual goal of single payer.

The repubs would never allow single payer through right now, and, if left to them entirely, they would never, NEVER, pass any health care legislation of any kind, ever. So the dems pushed this steamer out their ass, with the intention that once everyone's in love with it, single payer won't look like the boogyman the GOP claims it is, and it'll pass (but that's many many years away still).

Social security was garbage at its inception too.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on February 2, 2011 at 7:11 PM
Supreme Ruler Of The Universe 7

Incredibly close!

And with a majority in the House anti and public support low...you gotta wonder...
Posted by Supreme Ruler Of The Universe http://yrihf.com on February 2, 2011 at 9:24 PM
svensken 8
@7

What are you talking about? Public support from the latest polls is in favor of the health care laws.
Posted by svensken on February 2, 2011 at 9:37 PM
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@6 You pretty much said everything I've been wanting to say to the whiners, and much better than I coulda. thx. Will keep it in my back pocket for bar conversations
Posted by Montdidier on February 3, 2011 at 1:09 AM
Vince 10
I hope the Dems now have a hammer to pound the Repugnants with. So far all they've done is bow to the extremists and vote to increase the deficit. I wish progressives would get more aggressive in fighting this right wing bullshit but that appears to be too much to ask.
Posted by Vince on February 3, 2011 at 4:15 AM
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To #6, Ugurtha Forka, and #9, Montdidier,

You two are prime examples numbers 1 & 2 of why it is mandatory to READ THE FRIGGING LEGISLATION.

I realize #6, you believe your comments to be wise, as you've certainly read them many times over from the same "stink tanks" again and again and again, probably even read those remarks directly from some stooge with the Hamilton Project (Robert Rubin's op to privatize everything --- sound familiar???), but it still doesn't refute in anyway my comments, which you obviously couldn't comprehend even in the least bit.

Yeah...yeah...the dems are "white hats" surely, and that's why Obama has appointed every single neocon, Wall Street lobbyist, private equity bankster, Goldman Sachs sleazebag and Monsanto lobbyist he could --- and you still haven't figured out how to locate your vagina and I'm guessing at this point neither of the two of you ever will. (I'm sure both of you are blissfully unaware of Obama's appointments, within the space of two weeks, of Bill Daley of JPMorgan Chase and Merck's BoD, and Eileen Rominger of Goldman Sachs' hedge fund, and Jeffrey Immelt of GE, by Obama.)

Ignorance is bliss, and you both are two unfailingly blissed out mofos.

Which is exactly why it remains to easy to flamboozle and scam idiots such as yourselves. You've never read a single piece of predatory legislation in your life, it would take valuable time away from all those mindless movies and TV shows, and porn, and 5-minute reads which is the maximum either of you two clowns could ever manage.

Whether it is your "get over" attitudes, gleaned from the entertainment world (and purposively so, as that has long been the intention), or the fact that morons will always comment upon any subject of which they are completely ignorant of, you simply demonstrate what a nimrod you are.

I'm sure neither one of you has read the report out from the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, nor the Special Inspector General (Neal Barofsky) TARP bailout funds report on Citigroup?

Nor are either of you familiar with the long stream of predatory legislation passed by your faux crats. Neither you know, I'd bet large on, that Cantwell and Murray soundly voted down the only public option to reach the floor of the Senate, the Dorgan amendment?

Neither of you have any idea of the securitizations, credit derivatives creation behind the climate exchanges, health exchanges or any other type of fugures exchanges?

In other words, neither of you knows jacks**t! So keep on wasting time jabbering and prattling, because that is exactly what the health insurance industry and the pharmaceuticals what you to do.

Viagra on, doods!
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Posted by sgt_doom on February 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM
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A Challenge To #6, Ugurtha Forka, and #9, Montdidier

On Saturday, Feb. 5, at University of Washington's Kane Hall, Dr. Flowers -- long a staunch supporter of single payer and national health care -- will be speaking. (Time: 7:00 pm)

Here's the quoted section from an announcement over at Democratic Underground:

Dr. Margaret Flowers is a Maryland pediatrician with experience as a hospitalist at a rural hospital and in private practice. She is currently the Congressional Fellow of Physicians for a National Health Program, working on single payer health care reform full time. In addition to her activity with PNHP, she is a member of Healthcare-Now! of Maryland and a co-founder of the Conversation Coalition for Health Care Reform. Dr. Flowers obtained her medical degree from the University of Maryland School of Medicine and did her residency at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore. She has appeared on Bill Moyer’s Journal, the Ed Schultz Show and many other venues.

Also speaking will be tireless single payer organizer, Katie Robbins, National Organizer of HealthCare-Now. Margaret and Katie, proud members of the “Baucus 8,”were arrested during the Senate Finance Committee hearings on health care reform in May 2009 for protesting that single payer legislation, such as HR676, was not even being considered as an option for national reform.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis…

Be sure to attend, both of you may actually learn something.
Posted by sgt_doom on February 3, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Urgutha Forka 13
sgt_doom,

I don't live in Washington State.

Also, get over yourself already.
Posted by Urgutha Forka on February 3, 2011 at 11:23 AM
blip 14
You're a class act, sgt_doom.
Posted by blip on February 3, 2011 at 11:56 AM

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